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And apparently the concept I need to wrap my head around: The most important position in fantasy football is RB? Not QB. Okay then.
Make sure to check the scoring rules. Most leagues give 4 pts/TD for a QB, whereas TDs from a TE, RB or WR are usually 6. Our league actually gives 6 pts per TD regardless of who does it, so good QBs are more of a premium. But assuming it's the former, conventional wisdom is to prioritize an RB on a good offense that isn't in a committee. That's a really short list. It's not uncommon for the very top WRs and Travis Kelce to go at the end of round 1 ahead of RBs on bad offenses or committees. Likewise, in non-PPR leagues you want WRs who are the end-zone targets. I've played since 2007, and I really enjoy it. And there is tons of info out there. This guy on reddit puts out a spreadsheet year year that you can customize per your scoring rules and it will give you many different ways to rack and stack players. If you don't want to over think it, this is a good tool. Also ESPN and FantasyPro have public non-PPR lists to review as well.
Correct. Most QBs average the same amount of points. There are only a handful big point RB
Allen and Mahomes might be the exception - folks will reach for them quite often. But yeah after that, the next 10 choices don't have enormous discriminators. I tend to rely on competent QBs with good O-Lines, prioritizing QBs who can scramble.
And apparently the concept I need to wrap my head around: The most important position in fantasy football is RB? Not QB. Okay then.
Also, maybe more so than those other sports, what you do in-season can make the difference (largely because of the volume of injuries in the NFL). Its been said you don't win the championship in the draft, but you can lose it. The years I've won are the ones where I made good in-season moves. The backup RBs to guys who are injury prone can be very good guys to have. Also, save your kicker and defense for last or toward the end. Based on projections this year there barely any differences between #1 and #12.
Make sure to check the scoring rules. Most leagues give 4 pts/TD for a QB, whereas TDs from a TE, RB or WR are usually 6. Our league actually gives 6 pts per TD regardless of who does it, so good QBs are more of a premium. But assuming it's the former, conventional wisdom is to prioritize an RB on a good offense that isn't in a committee. That's a really short list. It's not uncommon for the very top WRs and Travis Kelce to go at the end of round 1 ahead of RBs on bad offenses or committees. Likewise, in non-PPR leagues you want WRs who are the end-zone targets. I've played since 2007, and I really enjoy it. And there is tons of info out there. This guy on reddit puts out a spreadsheet year year that you can customize per your scoring rules and it will give you many different ways to rack and stack players. If you don't want to over think it, this is a good tool. Also ESPN and FantasyPro have public non-PPR lists to review as well.
Thanks. I just checked, for QBs, it's 25 yards per point. Passing TDs are 4 points...so per the majority of leagues. Rushing TDs are 6 points as are caught TDs.
I'm unsure of my draft position but per pre-season draft boards, the Colts RB appears to be the consensus #1. Thanks for the link to that Reddit spreadsheet.
So, dumb question but, per that spreadsheet you linked to @1Louder , the file I want is for "Standard" and ignore the "Auction", "IDP", and etc.?
Joneill got it but yes, standard. Sorry for not specifying! Auction is a completely different drafting scenario and IDP is "Individual Defensive Player" - basically you draft and start defensive players who score points by tackles, sacks, interceptions, etc.
Thanks. I just checked, for QBs, it's 25 yards per point. Passing TDs are 4 points...so per the majority of leagues. Rushing TDs are 6 points as are caught TDs.
I'm unsure of my draft position but per pre-season draft boards, the Colts RB appears to be the consensus #1. Thanks for the link to that Reddit spreadsheet.
No problem - I've use that spreadsheet for the last four years, I think it's excellent. It's designed to actually conduct a draft, but I've found it's too difficult to make draft picks in the real tool and then replicate them in the spreadsheet - I mostly use it for pre-draft rankings. We use a site called Sleeper which has a really good mock draft feature - if your site has a mock draft function I'd recommend doing that several times. First 3-4 rounds usually aren't hard to figure out, but right around that point the decision making becomes more complex - do I get this RB or that WR, do I go TE or wait, do I go QB or wait, etc. For me, I will usually decide ahead of time which 3-4 QBs I want, and which 2-3 TEs I want, and then see how the draft unfolds as to when to grab them. But mock drafts help sort all that out.
I was thinking of taking D last...and sorta...changing it weekly.
Oh, just noticed, there are no IR spots. So, better hope my squad is healthy.
Streaming defenses is actually a good way to go if you are up for it. Honestly I wind up streaming probably 75% of the time. An overall bad defense against a bad offense is often times a better match up than a good defense against a good offense. Most of the time I try to draft a defense that has decent match ups for the first 3-4 games then go from there.
Streaming defenses is actually a good way to go if you are up for it. Honestly I wind up streaming probably 75% of the time. An overall bad defense against a bad offense is often times a better match up than a good defense against a good offense. Most of the time I try to draft a defense that has decent match ups for the first 3-4 games then go from there.
Cool. I'll go with that. I'm usually quite active on the waiver-wire/free-agency in other fantasy sports so, I suspect NFL will be no different esp. with no IR spots for this league.
Anyone catch the Manti T'eo documentary on Netflix. Pretty interesting when you hash out the details. Really, really fucked up how him, his family, his school, his career were all negatively affected.
Anyone catch the Manti T'eo documentary on Netflix. Pretty interesting when you hash out the details. Really, really fucked up how him, his family, his school, his career were all negatively affected.
Joneill got it but yes, standard. Sorry for not specifying! Auction is a completely different drafting scenario and IDP is "Individual Defensive Player" - basically you draft and start defensive players who score points by tackles, sacks, interceptions, etc.
@1Louder : Another question on that spreadsheet you recently referred me to use, please (just playing around with it tonight)...
There's a section called "Boris Chen Tiers"...so, that's the dude's rankings of the players listed based on the type of League settings. So, he has "Sort Std Tier", "Sort PPR Tier", and "Sort .5PPR Tier"...Given that my League is non-PPR, I'd be looking at the column that's labeled as "Sort Std Tier"? This spreadsheet is extremely detailed and rather sophisticated in the setup (man, these guys poured their hearts into making it).
I could try to use it by pre-setting it in the "League Info" tab (worksheet) of the spreadseet...But, I think it may cause more trouble for me as too much happening at once since this is my first time? Maybe just highlight the players picked and then use Boris' rankings as a reference on who is best available when my turn.
@1Louder : Another question on that spreadsheet you recently referred me to use, please (just playing around with it tonight)...
There's a section called "Boris Chen Tiers"...so, that's the dude's rankings of the players listed based on the type of League settings. So, he has "Sort Std Tier", "Sort PPR Tier", and "Sort .5PPR Tier"...Given that my League is non-PPR, I'd be looking at the column that's labeled as "Sort Std Tier"? This spreadsheet is extremely detailed and rather sophisticated in the setup (man, these guys poured their hearts into making it).
I could try to use it by pre-setting it in the "League Info" tab (worksheet) of the spreadseet...But, I think it may cause more trouble for me as too much happening at once since this is my first time? Maybe just highlight the players picked and then use Boris' rankings as a reference on who is best available when my turn.
Hey Yummy!
Yeah it's a great tool but it also does way more than the average user may need. Here is what I'd recommend.
Go to the "League Info" worksheet. If you just want a ranked list, you can ignore "Roster Settings" but I update it anyway. Ignore "PC Gold Manual Factors". Update all of the "Scoring Settings" per your league. Ignore "IDP Scoring". You can ignore all the other fields. However if you are going to try to use this to track a draft you'll want the other info correct, but if not ignore it.
Go to the "Overall" worksheet. Scroll right - at the top you'll see a "Refresh all Data" button. I'd do this once, if you haven't already. It can take like 5 min so don't worry if it sits a while. Its a long process.
Once that's done, there are tons of sorting options as you've found. The options under "Rank" will show you sorting based on those sources. If I look at this one, I tend to use ECR (Expert Consensus Rankings). In the Average Draft Position section, I might look at "Sort by Avg". I don use the the Boris Chen Tiers actually, but certainly you can see what it says and yes, you'll want "Sort Std Tier". Tiers are interesting in that it shows you where players drop off, and what players might be considered equivalent. However, personally I think the real insight this sheet provides is farter right in the "VDB" section (Value Based Drafting). If you click "Sort VDB", now you get a look at rankings based on your scoring parameters.
K. I'm on my work laptop so, don't have the file but will re-read your directions/recommendations again tonight to set it up the way you have advised me to on my PC. Thx, sir.
K. I'm on my work laptop so, don't have the file but will re-read your directions/recommendations again tonight to set it up the way you have advised me to on my PC. Thx, sir.
No worries. I tend to use the VDB sort from this file and another public source like ESPN or FantasyPro. I've found they are in general agreement, but every now and again that VDB list will expose a player that might be over-valued or under-valued. Helps me to avoid over-reaching, but also gives me a handful of potential steals. My biggest advice would be to try and do several mock drafts before your real one. First off you get used to the tool mechanics if you are new to it, but it also helps you sort out who might be around and what decisions you might want to make.
If this is your first time and you want to keep it simple, my advice would be to first draft your starting RBs, WRs, TE and QB in the early rounds (conventional wisdom would say RB > WR > TE > QB). Then draft for potential in the mid rounds (RBs that sit behind brittle starting RBs, WRs that may emerge, etc). Wait on Defense and Kicker for the last 2 picks.
IMHO, in the world of QBs you either have Allen/Mahomes/Herbert or you don't. Meaning unless you stretch early to get them, there isn't a lot of difference between the next 9 you can get so that's why conventional wisdom is to wait. TEs are sort of the same - you have Andrews/Kelce or you don't. Pitts/Kittle might be close. Outside of those 4, the next 8 choices are fairly close. So if this is your first time, and if you want to keep in simple, I'd recommend RB, WR, RB, WR, TE, QB as your first five picks (maybe swap QB and TE if one of the big 3 are there). Doing a few mocks can let you experiment.
Thanks again, @1Louder ...I've prepped the sheet based on your instructions on post #354. Interesting, by entering my scoring parameters, I noticed Henry jumped up in value (156.7) as did Ekeler (141.7) in VBD and leapfrogged over the #2-ranked player (via ECR ranking) in McCaffrey. Though, TBH, I would not draft McCaffrey anyways because he's barely played the last couple of seasons. Makes me nervous. Cooper Kupp, not surprisingly given his TD prowess is #4 ranked based on VBD despite being #9 overall based on ECR.
Pretty cool. Again, thanks so much for the spreadsheet. Draft is next Wed.
Thanks again, @1Louder ...I've prepped the sheet based on your instructions on post #354. Interesting, by entering my scoring parameters, I noticed Henry jumped up in value (156.7) as did Ekeler (141.7) in VBD and leapfrogged over the #2-ranked player (via ECR ranking) in McCaffrey. Though, TBH, I would not draft McCaffrey anyways because he's barely played the last couple of seasons. Makes me nervous. Cooper Kupp, not surprisingly given his TD prowess is #4 ranked based on VBD despite being #9 overall based on ECR.
Pretty cool. Again, thanks so much for the spreadsheet. Draft is next Wed.
Glad it helped! I think it offers good insights. The guy who makes it does a great job. I think three (maybe two?) seasons ago I had the #1 overall and took McCaffery. He lasted half of one game. I wasn't in the running for him last season but he was barely on the field. Guys like him are hard because they have league winning upside if they are on the field. *if*.
08-12-2022, 07:30 PM
The years I've won are the ones where I made good in-season moves. The backup RBs to guys who are injury prone can be very good guys to have. Also, save your kicker and defense for last or toward the end. Based on projections this year there barely any differences between #1 and #12.
