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Old 03-15-2021, 04:27 PM
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Most notable is the Chefs signing of Thuney away from the Cheats...?
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Thuney was a class act and great player. Chiefs got a good one
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Gronk stays for 1yr/10mill
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Gronk stays for 1yr/10mill
It's good to be Gronk!! I was just reading that he said he wanted to dip his toes in the FA pool as he had never been one before. Definitely wanted to stay with the Bucs and Brady, but supposedly said "anything can happen." Article also said he was going to be a 1 contract year guy for the rest of his playing days...............
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So, Jamewas Winston will likely be a Saint?
I predict his first throw as a starter against the Bucs will be a pick 6
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Pats get Hunter Henry
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Pats trying to do the all TE offense thing
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Bears are going to end up with no QB at the end of this.







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Fitzmagic headed to Washington....
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Fitzmagic headed to Washington....
Either Fins going all in on Tua, trading for Watson, or getting another QB in the draft to compete with Tua. Scary but exciting times.
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No excitement for Bears fans. Just all scary and all horrible.
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So, just when you thought Bears could not downgrade from Mitch? They go and sign Dalton...
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Seahawks laughed at Bears too: https://www.thescore.com/news/2135063
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Bears-stupid: Instead of getting Dalton last year for $3M per, we go and lose a pick for Foles only to get Dalton for $10M this year.






























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you guys think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good or a flop?
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you guys think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good or a flop?
With QBs, you just don't know. Last "sure-thing" we had I think all discussed was Andrew Luck? The rest, just rolling of the dice.

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Mechanically hes a freak. I think Urban Myer will be a big help

I'm not taking anything away from Mahomes, hes stupid good, but he got very lucky with the coach and talent already in place in KC. Things could've been different if he was drafted by Clev or Cinci

We'll see if they can build around Sunshine
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Unless a pitcher is throwing nothing but strikes, he is also dependent on his fielding and thus, players behind him.

QBs are like that and then some. Completely reliant on the blocking, scheme, routes, catching ability of the personnel around him. It's why it is such a total crapshoot. Mahomes is a good example and while I had joked about it, there is some reality in what we saw in the Superbowl...a game where his protection went poof and the route-running was just not quite the same as it was in the regular season and last year.

Voila. He suddenly looked like Mitch of the Bears.



That being said, a QB, when everything around him is going as planned and etc., he still has to make the throw. If it calls for an 50 yard route and he has to fling that into tight coverage, it is now up to him to ensure the ball goes to the spot his WR is going to be at and well, that player catches it too. Then, well, consitently from game-to-game...That makes a great QB I guess? It's really just fascinating to me how many things have to go right really.
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you guys think Trevor Lawrence is going to be good or a flop?
I think he's going to be good, but not the messiah the media is making him out to be. Because the Jags seem to be rebuilding everything, I think he's going to struggle his first season. We'll know by season 2 or 3 if he's Payton Manning or if he's something a bit less. But I don't think he'll be a flop or a bust. He may take some time though to reach his full potential.
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Reading the Bears threw the kitchen sink (well, tried to) for Wilson. Three 1st-rounders, 3rd-rounders, and 2 active players (i.e. Mack included).

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Reading the Bears threw the kitchen sink (well, tried to) for Wilson. Three 1st-rounders, 3rd-rounders, and 2 active players (i.e. Mack included).
I think the key problem is that we need a quarterback, and the Bears don't have a high enough first round pick for us to replace Wilson, nor did they have one on the roster to give us. The whole Wilson for Prescott idea worked because we got a QB in exchange. I think that's the sticking point that killed the deal. The Hawks would have to rely on trades or free agency to acquire a QB to replace Wilson with, and that sort-of defeats the purpose of getting all those picks (if you have to just turn around and sell them off). The Bears only shot was to work a 3-way where a good QB found his way to Seattle.

That's the same reason Wilson will not wind up in New Orleans either. Unless we can somehow get say Watson out of a 3-way deal....

I'm sorry you have to endure a season with Dalton. Nothing says "we're playing for next season" like signing Dalton to a 1 year deal....
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I think the key problem is that we need a quarterback, and the Bears don't have a high enough first round pick for us to replace Wilson, nor did they have one on the roster to give us. The whole Wilson for Prescott idea worked because we got a QB in exchange. I think that's the sticking point that killed the deal. The Hawks would have to rely on trades or free agency to acquire a QB to replace Wilson with, and that sort-of defeats the purpose of getting all those picks (if you have to just turn around and sell them off). The Bears only shot was to work a 3-way where a good QB found his way to Seattle.

That's the same reason Wilson will not wind up in New Orleans either. Unless we can somehow get say Watson out of a 3-way deal....

I'm sorry you have to endure a season with Dalton. Nothing says "we're playing for next season" like signing Dalton to a 1 year deal....
I'm used to it. Bears offense has been inept and horrid to watch for years upon years. I was lucky enough to witness Sweetness but of course, before that, Sayers (who I was too young to watch) but...yeah, Bears have been cursed since of offensively talented generational players.
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And Watson's value just plummeted

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...tions-baseless
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I kind of have 2 reactions. One is these sound ridiculous, and I find the timing suspicious that it would come up now, right as he's making his trade demands. I've said before there are many valid reasons a woman might wait months or years to discuss a sexual assault. But massage therapists deal with this kind of stuff all the time. They are trained and equipped for this kind of behavior and I question why any of them would wait to raise an issue about that kind of incident until this exact moment. Note these allegations also are pretty easy to just invent.

It should be easy to prove that Watson went to a motel room and flew in a therapist from Atlanta - there'd be records, cameras, etc. But my second reaction was that if he actually did go to someone's house, or literally fly someone in and meet them at a hotel, how stupid do you have to be to even think that would wind up OK when you are a public figure like Watson? If you really need a massage, go to a legit operation, or I'm pretty sure the Texans have them on staff. Why would anyone do such a thing in such a way that screams "I'm looking for a happy ending".

Which kind of wraps back around to my first reaction - this sounds just implausibly stupid on Watson's part. I think it's either a straight up lie from the women, or Watson is guilty AF. I don't think there is any plausible story here in between that would suggest he flew in a therapist from another city and met her in a hotel seeking a legit massage.
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Biggest failure in franchise history closes for Bears...

Mitch signs with Bills: https://www.tsn.ca/report-ex-chicago...ills-1.1609767
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And by failure, I am not indicting Mitch...but everyone involved...from scouting, to development, to coaching, and then, to him.

This fail of the #2 overall pick is systemic from top-to-bottom for Bears. And for their awesome performance here, the fans are now treated to the Foles/Dalton show.






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Kyle Fuller released by Bears.

So, they downgrade the QB and downgrade the D.
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Yum - seems like Mariota could be a possibility for either the Bears or the Pats. Raiders are apparently looking for him to take a pay cut and I'm reading he is resistant to do so. He could be looking for a job in the near future...............
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Yum - seems like Mariota could be a possibility for either the Bears or the Pats. Raiders are apparently looking for him to take a pay cut and I'm reading he is resistant to do so. He could be looking for a job in the near future...............
Well, his arm strength is like the Cheater's...non-existent. So, I mean, if a cheating, talentless, whiny, wussy QB can somehow win rings, then Mariota may work as a Bear. Sure, it's windy in that fishbowl but who cares.




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Is Mitch the worst #2 overall QB after Ryan Leaf?
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QBs drafted #2 since Leaf

McNabb
RG3
Mariotta
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Is Mitch the worst #2 overall QB after Ryan Leaf?
I would say so. He's shown nothing but the potential to be a decent backup. But, who knows, maybe a new system with the right personnel will make him the second coming of Aaron Rodgers.
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QBs drafted #2 since Leaf

McNabb
RG3
Mariotta
Wentz
Mitch
McNabb best of the group, made it to a SB. Wentz got a ring but not for playing. RG3 one good year, I think Jay also. Didn't Mitch have one good year too? But yeah, looks like Mitch wins #2 #2 after Leafy.
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Steelies bring back JuJu Something-Smith.
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