NFL: 2010 Off-Season and Draft Discussion Thread
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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets say authorities at Pittsburgh International Airport filed an incident report after wide receiver Santonio Holmes failed to follow flight regulations by not turning off his iPod as the plane he was on was landing.
Jets spokesman Bruce Speight said Friday that the team was told Holmes was flying from Newark Liberty International Airport to Pittsburgh on Thursday night when the incident took place.
Earlier reports from two Pittsburgh-area television stations had said Holmes was escorted off the plane after being "disruptive."
However, Holmes got off the plane by himself, and police officers reminded him of complying with flight regulations. The wide receiver was not charged.
Speight says the report was filed with the Allegheny County Police Department after Holmes' flight landed.
Allegheny County police reiterated in a statement that Holmes was not removed from the flight.
"He was asked to remove his iPod [at one point], in which he complied," the statement said.
Jets officials said Friday they are looking into the incident, but have not yet spoken with Holmes, who was en route to Las Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight.
"I know what has been told to me and it kind of got blown out of proportion it sounds like in some of the media outlets and things," said coach Rex Ryan, who addressed reporters during the team's rookie minicamp.
Ryan said he was not happy to have to stand at a podium and address questions about this incident. "I mean, OK, let's face it, he should turn off his iPod," he said. "That's what he should do. He should do that. I haven't had a chance to talk to Santonio, but he certainly should do that."
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets say authorities at Pittsburgh International Airport filed an incident report after wide receiver Santonio Holmes failed to follow flight regulations by not turning off his iPod as the plane he was on was landing.
Jets spokesman Bruce Speight said Friday that the team was told Holmes was flying from Newark Liberty International Airport to Pittsburgh on Thursday night when the incident took place.
Earlier reports from two Pittsburgh-area television stations had said Holmes was escorted off the plane after being "disruptive."
However, Holmes got off the plane by himself, and police officers reminded him of complying with flight regulations. The wide receiver was not charged.
Speight says the report was filed with the Allegheny County Police Department after Holmes' flight landed.
Allegheny County police reiterated in a statement that Holmes was not removed from the flight.
"He was asked to remove his iPod [at one point], in which he complied," the statement said.
Jets officials said Friday they are looking into the incident, but have not yet spoken with Holmes, who was en route to Las Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight.
"I know what has been told to me and it kind of got blown out of proportion it sounds like in some of the media outlets and things," said coach Rex Ryan, who addressed reporters during the team's rookie minicamp.
Ryan said he was not happy to have to stand at a podium and address questions about this incident. "I mean, OK, let's face it, he should turn off his iPod," he said. "That's what he should do. He should do that. I haven't had a chance to talk to Santonio, but he certainly should do that."
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(05-06) 13:21 PDT -- Last weekend's minicamp turned out to be a last-chance, three-day audition for JaMarcus Russell, and the Oakland Raiders weren't impressed - they cut the 2007 No. 1 overall pick on Thursday.
Russell wasn't willing to take a pay cut and the Raiders walked away from a $39 million investment after three seasons in which Russell went 7-18 as a starter and teammates openly questioned his work ethic. He lost his starting job midway through last season.
Senior executive John Herrera told the Associated Press that "we wish him well."
The move was in the works since the Raiders traded for Washington quarterback Jason Campbell on April 24. Many close to the team and Russell thought Oakland would cut him before last Friday's minicamp to avoid the risk of Russell getting hurt and collecting another $6.45 million.
While the Raiders now save that $6.45 million, Russell still will get $3 million guaranteed for this season.
Russell completed just 52.1 percent of his passes in his career for 4,083 yards with 18 touchdowns and 23 interceptions. He lost 15 of his 25 fumbles, was sacked 70 times and had a passer rating of 65.2.
Last season, after being fined for being overweight at training camp, he turned in the worst season by an NFL quarterback in 11 seasons. Russell completed 48.8 percent of his passes, with three touchdowns, 11 interceptions and a 50.0 passer rating that was the lowest since Ryan Leaf, Bobby Hoying and Craig Whelihan all finished below 50 in 1998.
Cutting Russell must have been difficult for managing general partner Al Davis, who backed the strong-armed quarterback in a public feud with fired coach Lane Kiffin in 2008. Davis had drafted Russell despite his coach's protests.
"He is a great player. Get over it and coach this team on the field," Davis read from a letter he sent Kiffin before the firing. "That is what you were hired to do. We can win with this team."
But last year, Davis lost his patience and allowed coach Tom Cable to bench Russell midway through the season. Bruce Gradkowski led comeback wins over Cincinnati and Pittsburgh and was set to compete with Russell for the starting job at training camp in three months.
But then, sparked by Russell's lack of progress at offseason workouts, the Raiders gave up a fourth-round draft pick in 2012 to get Campbell. Campbell said Davis and Cable told him he would be the starter, something Cable denied, but the Raiders did immediately extend his contract through 2011. Campbell gets $3.1 million this season and now $4.5 million the following year.
Campbell lost his starting job in Washington after new coach Mike Shanahan traded for Donovan McNabb last month. A first-round pick out of Auburn in 2005, Campbell threw for 55 touchdowns, 38 interceptions and has a passer rating of 82.3 despite playing in three different offenses in five seasons.
Last season, before the Redskins' game against the Raiders, Campbell offered the recently-benched Russell some advice in a conference call with reporters.
"He's got to stay positive, study more, put in the work in the weight room, put in the work on the field, after practice," Campbell said. "Do the extra things to get ahead as a quarterback in the NFL. The room for error for quarterbacks is so small, but at the same time, you can overcome anything. He's young, he has a strong arm and he just needs to believe in himself, keep that confidence and turn things around this offseason."
Russell and Campbell were both Southeastern Conference stars. After setting the all-time Alabama passing record at Williamson-Mobile, Russell played three years at Louisiana State, winning All-SEC honors in 2006.
Russell never got on track in Oakland. He held out his first season, not signing a contract until after the first game of the regular season. Russell started only one game that season but did give Raiders fans a fleeting moment of hope in 2008, winning the final two games against Houston and Tampa Bay.
But a love for the offseason and trips to Las Vegas didn't help his weight issues. After being fined for being overweight last season and having a disastrous season, the 6-foot-6 Russell is reportedly even bigger now.
At 300 pounds, Russell might overshadow former San Diego quarterback Ryan Leaf as the biggest NFL draft bust of all-time.
Leaf, the No. 2 pick in the 1998 draft, last four years in the league and his numbers were actually worse than Russell's. But the former Washington State star only made $11.25 million as the No. 2 pick while Russell made almost four times as much.
Leaf recently told the Los Angeles Times, "I used to go to bed at night hoping somebody else like Heath Shuler might magically leapfrog me on those all-time bust lists. It never happened. Why? Because I am No. 1. I can't even think of anyone else in the ballpark that might be close to my combination of disappointment and failed expectations."
The Raiders just gave him some company.
Russell wasn't willing to take a pay cut and the Raiders walked away from a $39 million investment after three seasons in which Russell went 7-18 as a starter and teammates openly questioned his work ethic. He lost his starting job midway through last season.
Senior executive John Herrera told the Associated Press that "we wish him well."
The move was in the works since the Raiders traded for Washington quarterback Jason Campbell on April 24. Many close to the team and Russell thought Oakland would cut him before last Friday's minicamp to avoid the risk of Russell getting hurt and collecting another $6.45 million.
While the Raiders now save that $6.45 million, Russell still will get $3 million guaranteed for this season.
Russell completed just 52.1 percent of his passes in his career for 4,083 yards with 18 touchdowns and 23 interceptions. He lost 15 of his 25 fumbles, was sacked 70 times and had a passer rating of 65.2.
Last season, after being fined for being overweight at training camp, he turned in the worst season by an NFL quarterback in 11 seasons. Russell completed 48.8 percent of his passes, with three touchdowns, 11 interceptions and a 50.0 passer rating that was the lowest since Ryan Leaf, Bobby Hoying and Craig Whelihan all finished below 50 in 1998.
Cutting Russell must have been difficult for managing general partner Al Davis, who backed the strong-armed quarterback in a public feud with fired coach Lane Kiffin in 2008. Davis had drafted Russell despite his coach's protests.
"He is a great player. Get over it and coach this team on the field," Davis read from a letter he sent Kiffin before the firing. "That is what you were hired to do. We can win with this team."
But last year, Davis lost his patience and allowed coach Tom Cable to bench Russell midway through the season. Bruce Gradkowski led comeback wins over Cincinnati and Pittsburgh and was set to compete with Russell for the starting job at training camp in three months.
But then, sparked by Russell's lack of progress at offseason workouts, the Raiders gave up a fourth-round draft pick in 2012 to get Campbell. Campbell said Davis and Cable told him he would be the starter, something Cable denied, but the Raiders did immediately extend his contract through 2011. Campbell gets $3.1 million this season and now $4.5 million the following year.
Campbell lost his starting job in Washington after new coach Mike Shanahan traded for Donovan McNabb last month. A first-round pick out of Auburn in 2005, Campbell threw for 55 touchdowns, 38 interceptions and has a passer rating of 82.3 despite playing in three different offenses in five seasons.
Last season, before the Redskins' game against the Raiders, Campbell offered the recently-benched Russell some advice in a conference call with reporters.
"He's got to stay positive, study more, put in the work in the weight room, put in the work on the field, after practice," Campbell said. "Do the extra things to get ahead as a quarterback in the NFL. The room for error for quarterbacks is so small, but at the same time, you can overcome anything. He's young, he has a strong arm and he just needs to believe in himself, keep that confidence and turn things around this offseason."
Russell and Campbell were both Southeastern Conference stars. After setting the all-time Alabama passing record at Williamson-Mobile, Russell played three years at Louisiana State, winning All-SEC honors in 2006.
Russell never got on track in Oakland. He held out his first season, not signing a contract until after the first game of the regular season. Russell started only one game that season but did give Raiders fans a fleeting moment of hope in 2008, winning the final two games against Houston and Tampa Bay.
But a love for the offseason and trips to Las Vegas didn't help his weight issues. After being fined for being overweight last season and having a disastrous season, the 6-foot-6 Russell is reportedly even bigger now.
At 300 pounds, Russell might overshadow former San Diego quarterback Ryan Leaf as the biggest NFL draft bust of all-time.
Leaf, the No. 2 pick in the 1998 draft, last four years in the league and his numbers were actually worse than Russell's. But the former Washington State star only made $11.25 million as the No. 2 pick while Russell made almost four times as much.
Leaf recently told the Los Angeles Times, "I used to go to bed at night hoping somebody else like Heath Shuler might magically leapfrog me on those all-time bust lists. It never happened. Why? Because I am No. 1. I can't even think of anyone else in the ballpark that might be close to my combination of disappointment and failed expectations."
The Raiders just gave him some company.
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Biggest bust since Cade McNown.
#207
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Why am I not surprised? F-in douchebag glad my Boys got rid of him.
By John Clayton
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The Cincinnati Bengals reached a two-year deal with cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones Wednesday, according to sources.
Jones
Jones had a workout with the Bengals earlier this week, his second with the team. In much better shape this time, Jones convinced the Bengals coaches and ownership to give him a chance.
According to a source, the Bengals inserted language in the contract to protect themselves in case he gets into trouble off the field. The team wanted a two-year deal instead of a one-year contract because they are willing to take a chance other teams are not.
Jones, according to a source, will sign on Monday.
Jones, 26, started 34 games during his three-year career. But off-the-field problems have prevented him from getting a chance to play since 2008. He played two seasons with the Tennessee Titans and one with the Dallas Cowboys.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Jones for the entire 2007 season and for six games with the Cowboys in 2008 for violating the NFL's personal-conduct policy.
The Titans drafted Jones sixth overall in 2005. He was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention before being traded to the Cowboys in 2008. But Jones got into trouble again, drawing the six-game suspension for an alcohol-related scuffle with a team-provided bodyguard.
Jones appeared in nine games with the Cowboys, starting six, but had no interceptions. He also returned punts, averaging 4.5 yards, prompting the Cowboys to release him after the season.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
By John Clayton
ESPN.com
The Cincinnati Bengals reached a two-year deal with cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones Wednesday, according to sources.
Jones
Jones had a workout with the Bengals earlier this week, his second with the team. In much better shape this time, Jones convinced the Bengals coaches and ownership to give him a chance.
According to a source, the Bengals inserted language in the contract to protect themselves in case he gets into trouble off the field. The team wanted a two-year deal instead of a one-year contract because they are willing to take a chance other teams are not.
Jones, according to a source, will sign on Monday.
Jones, 26, started 34 games during his three-year career. But off-the-field problems have prevented him from getting a chance to play since 2008. He played two seasons with the Tennessee Titans and one with the Dallas Cowboys.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Jones for the entire 2007 season and for six games with the Cowboys in 2008 for violating the NFL's personal-conduct policy.
The Titans drafted Jones sixth overall in 2005. He was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention before being traded to the Cowboys in 2008. But Jones got into trouble again, drawing the six-game suspension for an alcohol-related scuffle with a team-provided bodyguard.
Jones appeared in nine games with the Cowboys, starting six, but had no interceptions. He also returned punts, averaging 4.5 yards, prompting the Cowboys to release him after the season.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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JaFatAss
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Russell wasn't willing to take a pay cut and the Raiders walked away from a $39 million investment after three seasons in which Russell went 7-18 as a starter and teammates openly questioned his work ethic. He lost his starting job midway through last season.
More than willing to take the money; but not willing to work.
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#211
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Bengals are like the NFL equivalent of the Portland Jailblazers. All the felons end up there LOL. Pacman is a douche and his cover skills are seriously lacking.
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Our owner is THE biggest d-bag in the world. Sad that the great Paul Brown's son is a giant tool.
He's the one that brought back Chris Henry when the coaches objected, signed Pacman even though they didn't want him, etc. What are the coaches to do?
He's even screwed the city over bad on the whole stadium deal over the years, but that's a different story.
You shut it!
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s'more @ Bengirls...
#215
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Our owner is THE biggest d-bag in the world. Sad that the great Paul Brown's son is a giant tool.
He's the one that brought back Chris Henry when the coaches objected, signed Pacman even though they didn't want him, etc. What are the coaches to do?
He's even screwed the city over bad on the whole stadium deal over the years, but that's a different story.
He's the one that brought back Chris Henry when the coaches objected, signed Pacman even though they didn't want him, etc. What are the coaches to do?
He's even screwed the city over bad on the whole stadium deal over the years, but that's a different story.
Dez Bryant looks like a choirboy next to Chris Henry
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^^Jerry Jones has put together a pretty talented team this decade and past decades. so even with him being a douche, he knows what hes doing! thank god cause it would such if we ended up like Oakland
#217
I only have one thing to say to the Cowboys:
#219
This decade he hasn't won anything and as much as I hate the Cowboys and Jimmy Johnson. It was Jimmy Johnson that put the team right and won Super Bowls. The Barry Super Bowl was a Jimmy Johnson team.
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I have only one thing to say to the Dikings and Packers:
#222
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I take solace in the fact that Dan Snyder may be the biggest douche of them all. I have two words for you...Albert Haynesworth What a dumbass. At least I take comfort in knowing McNabb is destined for teh suckitude as a Skin.
#223
Snyder has messed up this team.
Again don't get so full that Jones has put good teams on the field, the last couple years, those are Parcels teams. Jones is just as screwed up as Snyder he got Roy Williams for a first, third and sixth round. All that was given up for AH was money.
Again don't get so full that Jones has put good teams on the field, the last couple years, those are Parcels teams. Jones is just as screwed up as Snyder he got Roy Williams for a first, third and sixth round. All that was given up for AH was money.
#224
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Horrible call on Williams. Still, he at least is busting his ass this offseason and working out with Romo weekly. Can't say the same for Haynesworth. Anyhoo I hope he gets benched and Austin and Bryant emerge as solid tandem.
#225
Son of a bitch...
Miami Dolphins' Brandon Marshall misses workout after 'routine procedure'
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/1...-marshall.html
I knew it was too good to be true.
Miami Dolphins' Brandon Marshall misses workout after 'routine procedure'
Since arriving in South Florida last month, Dolphins wide receiver Brandon Marshall has already made a successful transition as a teammate in his new locker room. His ability to do the same as a player on the practice field, however, will have to wait.
Marshall is recovering from a recent surgery to repair a bothersome right hip, sources said Wednesday. He has been relegated to riding a stationary bicycle and watching practice during the team's most recent organized team activities.
Although unwilling to reveal any information about the surgery, Dolphins coach Tony Sparano did say he expects Marshall to be ready for training camp in August. He isn't likely to return before then.
``Brandon had a routine procedure done,'' coach Tony Sparano said. ``It's going to take some time right now, so we'll see where it is. I don't know whether or not he'll participate in any OTAs.''
Renowned hip surgeon Marc Philippon performed the surgery less than three weeks ago in Vail, Colo., sources said. It marks the second time in as many years that Marshall sought Philippon's surgical services for hip trouble.
However, the latest procedure was not simply a follow-up to last year's surgery, sources said. It was instead a new procedure to his opposite hip. The Dolphins were not aware Marshall would need a second hip surgery when they signed him.
Marshall is recovering from a recent surgery to repair a bothersome right hip, sources said Wednesday. He has been relegated to riding a stationary bicycle and watching practice during the team's most recent organized team activities.
Although unwilling to reveal any information about the surgery, Dolphins coach Tony Sparano did say he expects Marshall to be ready for training camp in August. He isn't likely to return before then.
``Brandon had a routine procedure done,'' coach Tony Sparano said. ``It's going to take some time right now, so we'll see where it is. I don't know whether or not he'll participate in any OTAs.''
Renowned hip surgeon Marc Philippon performed the surgery less than three weeks ago in Vail, Colo., sources said. It marks the second time in as many years that Marshall sought Philippon's surgical services for hip trouble.
However, the latest procedure was not simply a follow-up to last year's surgery, sources said. It was instead a new procedure to his opposite hip. The Dolphins were not aware Marshall would need a second hip surgery when they signed him.
I knew it was too good to be true.
#226
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how do you guys feel about holdouts like CJ and andre johnson?? Johnson still got 5 yrs left and he wants a new contract. CJ still has like 3 years left. They all want to get paid but after signing the new contract, they don't performance as well as when they first signed the new contract.
#228
With the amounts still left of their contracts, let them hold out. The signed new contracts and were happy about them when they did, it's not like they're aren't making any money, like a rookie contract.
Herm Edwards said for the team not to re-due them but maybe add incentives to allow them more money.
Herm Edwards said for the team not to re-due them but maybe add incentives to allow them more money.
#229
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CJ is on a rookie deal. I personally think after the season he had, that the Titans should at least look at adding something to it. Don't redo the deal if you don't want to, but fuck. If he blows out both knees, he's got $10 million to his name and he's done. He's the best back in the league by a mile.
Andre? Not much room to complain there.
Andre? Not much room to complain there.
#230
I could have sworn he was in the league for much longer, they should do something with him. Though I'm not always for giving someone more money, like this. I mean what if they sign BIG deal and start sucking, are they going to give back money, I don't think so.
He could get hurt, but players have insurance to cover that.
He could get hurt, but players have insurance to cover that.
#233
Bingo. And it's not like THAT's never happened, either. This is why you should build incentives into your deals, kiddies. "Yeah, sure, Chris... we'll give you a nice big bonus if you break 2,000 yards in a season!" (one year later) "Ah crap..." That's how it should be done. A contract's a contract.
#234
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Favre: He’ll return to NFL if team returns to CWS
HATTIESBURG, Miss. (AP)—Brett Favre(notes) says he still isn’t sure what he’s doing next season, but he may have given some indication after visiting with the Southern Miss baseball team.
The Minnesota Vikings quarterback told the Golden Eagles on Thursday morning that if they can make it back to the College World Series for the second straight year, he will return for one more season in the NFL.
Favre has left fans hanging since the Vikings lost to New Orleans in the NFC Championship game. He signed a two-year contract with the Vikings before last season. Coach Brad Childress hasn’t talked with Favre recently except by text message.
Southern Miss players have a lot of work to do if they want to force Favre into action. They are 30-20 and need wins to earn a postseason invitation.
The Minnesota Vikings quarterback told the Golden Eagles on Thursday morning that if they can make it back to the College World Series for the second straight year, he will return for one more season in the NFL.
Favre has left fans hanging since the Vikings lost to New Orleans in the NFC Championship game. He signed a two-year contract with the Vikings before last season. Coach Brad Childress hasn’t talked with Favre recently except by text message.
Southern Miss players have a lot of work to do if they want to force Favre into action. They are 30-20 and need wins to earn a postseason invitation.
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HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME! I'M AN ATTENTION WHORE AND I NEED ATTENTION!!! HEY PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!
#238
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Mary: Did you mean what you said up there?
Ted: Well ya I just want you to be happy Mary.
Mary: But I'd be happiest with you.
Ted: What about Bret Fahvera...?
Mary: What did I tell you the first time we met? I'm a Niners fan!
Ted: Well ya I just want you to be happy Mary.
Mary: But I'd be happiest with you.
Ted: What about Bret Fahvera...?
Mary: What did I tell you the first time we met? I'm a Niners fan!
#239
It would be awesome if the baseball team just flat-out quits trying now because they're so sick of his ass.