NFL: 2009 Season Discussion Thread
01-14-2010, 09:07 AM
#1641
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As nice as she may be, Tom Brady's woman > Wes Welker's GF. 
01-14-2010, 12:24 PM
#1643
The Dumb One
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somebody wanna explain this to me. they were discussing it on a podcast this morning and i didnt pay much attention to it untill this morning.
i know that MVP is not completely based on stats and has alot to do with the value the player has to the team as a whole. but that can be argued with many quarterbacks.
and im not making this a manning vs. brees debate.. b/c there were also 4 other quarterbacks with a better QB rating than manning.
without trying to slander my own team here... if you take manning away from the colts. they still win 8+ games.
you take brees away from new orleans.. we win 5 or 6 and join tampa and detroit in the bottom of the bowl... =/ sad but true
just wondering what they base the votes on?
i also thought favre woulda beat him out to with the season he's giving his team.
Peyton Manning (2009 MVP)
TDS 33
INT 16
YDS 4,500
RTG 99.9
Record 14-2
Set Record For League MVPs in a Career
Drew Brees (2009 Offensive player of the year)
TDS 34
INT 11
YDS 4,388
RTG 109.6 NO
Record 13-3
Set new Season Completion % Record
i know that MVP is not completely based on stats and has alot to do with the value the player has to the team as a whole. but that can be argued with many quarterbacks.
and im not making this a manning vs. brees debate.. b/c there were also 4 other quarterbacks with a better QB rating than manning.
without trying to slander my own team here... if you take manning away from the colts. they still win 8+ games.
you take brees away from new orleans.. we win 5 or 6 and join tampa and detroit in the bottom of the bowl... =/ sad but true
just wondering what they base the votes on?
i also thought favre woulda beat him out to with the season he's giving his team.
Peyton Manning (2009 MVP)
TDS 33
INT 16
YDS 4,500
RTG 99.9
Record 14-2
Set Record For League MVPs in a Career
Drew Brees (2009 Offensive player of the year)
TDS 34
INT 11
YDS 4,388
RTG 109.6 NO
Record 13-3
Set new Season Completion % Record
01-14-2010, 12:48 PM
#1644
Burning Brakes
i doubt they'll win more than 4 games without manning. Have you see backup qb play? He got the mvp votes because if he played the whole last 2 games, they'd go undefeated. For me, chris johnson should have getting the mvp award. Not a lot RB can get to 2k yards.
01-14-2010, 12:55 PM
#1645
Suzuka Master
It was him, not so much Young, that helped the Titans reverse their early season woes.
01-14-2010, 01:53 PM
#1646
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@RockStar: Colts go undefeated if Peyton plays every game. Colts lose when Peyton doesn't play. Saints lost with Bree's at QB. Thats all I can think of. Personally CJ should of got IMO. But i like rooting against Peyton.
01-14-2010, 02:53 PM
#1647
The Dumb One
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he played one game this season and he was remarkably terrible
i pray that brees never gets hurt before we draft a nice prospect quarterback.
brees did lose a game starting.. he just stayed in to finish
peyton also would have lost week 16 when he started.. but he sat the bench the second half so they take the blame off him.
i get what your saying though. makes sense
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01-15-2010, 07:55 AM
#1649
Team Owner
Brees won SN POTY
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...ve-player-year
I think CJ was DQ'ed because of the team record. A lot of the voters tie team record to votes. Ironically in MLB Andre Dawson just got into the HOF and his lone MVP year was the only year a last place team had the MVP.
I think some voters picked Manning because they had no running game. They were dead last while NO was 6th.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...ve-player-year
I think CJ was DQ'ed because of the team record. A lot of the voters tie team record to votes. Ironically in MLB Andre Dawson just got into the HOF and his lone MVP year was the only year a last place team had the MVP.
I think some voters picked Manning because they had no running game. They were dead last while NO was 6th.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
01-15-2010, 10:17 AM
#1652
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<---- Biggest Cowboys fan...EVAR...this weekend.
GO ROMO! May you get rid of the Grossman-like imitations and be a DECENT QB this weekend...!!
GO ROMO! May you get rid of the Grossman-like imitations and be a DECENT QB this weekend...!!
01-15-2010, 10:55 AM
#1654
Senior Moderator
Well, considering what team I root for, my hatred for anything Vikings (and Packers...but, they choked against the Cards, yay!!) is obvious...
I'd like nothing better than to see Peterson fumble 12 times and Favre sacked 4 times per quarter just to remind him that he needs to flipflop his way back to retirement.
I'd like nothing better than to see Peterson fumble 12 times and Favre sacked 4 times per quarter just to remind him that he needs to flipflop his way back to retirement.
01-15-2010, 12:29 PM
#1655
Suzuka Master
Brees won SN POTY
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...ve-player-year
I think CJ was DQ'ed because of the team record. A lot of the voters tie team record to votes. Ironically in MLB Andre Dawson just got into the HOF and his lone MVP year was the only year a last place team had the MVP.
I think some voters picked Manning because they had no running game. They were dead last while NO was 6th.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...ve-player-year
I think CJ was DQ'ed because of the team record. A lot of the voters tie team record to votes. Ironically in MLB Andre Dawson just got into the HOF and his lone MVP year was the only year a last place team had the MVP.
I think some voters picked Manning because they had no running game. They were dead last while NO was 6th.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
I can't wait for sunday 8 AM HST when my beloved Cowboys hopefully man up against Brett and his band of merrimen. Here's hoping he has 3 INTs and AP has 2 fumbles
OTW, if Favre plays anything like he did the first 13 games we are in for a long day.
01-15-2010, 06:05 PM
#1657
Go Giants
Meh...
01-16-2010, 04:14 PM
#1660
Safety Car
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01-16-2010, 05:50 PM
#1663
Senior Moderator
@ the Saints...
01-16-2010, 06:20 PM
#1664
Senior Moderator
@ Cardinals defense/spec teams...pretty much doing what they did last week.
01-16-2010, 06:41 PM
#1665
The Dumb One
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HA
HA
he replied. "its something i'd like to do reguardless of where we are, but we'll see"
sooooo.. quit trying to justify your pointless remark.
excuse me for not giving a background on every post, normally i'd say my bad, but in this case you just sound bitter. so :tonguefaw
ps.
Bitter about what? Your bumptiousness?
01-16-2010, 11:18 PM
#1671
what a disappointing loss for Baltimore
anyways about the league MVP..... CJ was playing all those games where the Titans lost 6 straight wasn't he? wouldn't have really helped if he was/wasn't playing those 6 games.
anyways about the league MVP..... CJ was playing all those games where the Titans lost 6 straight wasn't he? wouldn't have really helped if he was/wasn't playing those 6 games.
01-17-2010, 10:59 AM
#1674
Senior Moderator
Two wildcard winners down yesterday. The Boys and J E T S up next; I think Boys will take the Vikes as it seems like their firing on all cylinders w/forced induction*....and if MChez can take it to the next level (at this VERY early stage in his NFL career), the Jets will have a good chance to advance.*I'm not AT ALL a Cowboys fan but -- like the Jets -- they're playing very confident football and have a clear self identity. As a Jets fan, I'm looking to see a Jets-Cowboys showdown in Miami but as a football fan, I say it'll probably be a Colts-Cowboys party.
01-17-2010, 01:58 PM
#1675
The Dumb One
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Two wildcard winners down yesterday. The Boys and J E T S up next; I think Boys will take the Vikes as it seems like their firing on all cylinders w/forced induction*....and if MChez can take it to the next level (at this VERY early stage in his NFL career), the Jets will have a good chance to advance.*I'm not AT ALL a Cowboys fan but -- like the Jets -- they're playing very confident football and have a clear self identity. As a Jets fan, I'm looking to see a Jets-Cowboys showdown in Miami but as a football fan, I say it'll probably be a Colts-Cowboys party.
vikings are only up by 2 touchdowns but it could be much worse.
its a shame too, we wanted another shot at dallas.
01-17-2010, 02:35 PM
#1678
Every dick on the NFL TV shows said that Dallas was the TEAM, until the real Romo shows up.
01-17-2010, 02:37 PM
#1679
What Would Don Draper Do?
hate the cowboys, can't stand favre.
but i'd rather have favre winning. yay, i suppose.
yumchah's doing?
but i'd rather have favre winning. yay, i suppose.
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