MLB: 2009 Playoffs and World Series Thread
10-22-2009, 03:30 PM
#241
The sizzle in the Steak
Memo to the Dodgers: you need hits with men in scoring position to win games.
Phills = better team.
All east coast world series....Yanks win in 6
Phills = better team.
All east coast world series....Yanks win in 6
10-22-2009, 03:33 PM
#242
My Garage
Complain I brought something up from years ago AFTER you do so?
I am now talking about this year. The Yankees ARE the best team in Baseball. They won more games THIS season than anyone.
The Mets won 70.
The Yankees sucked last year, they won 83 games. How does the 70 the Mets won compare?
You were 3 the last time the Mets won, the Yankees won in the last ten years, Mets not so much.
I am now talking about this year. The Yankees ARE the best team in Baseball. They won more games THIS season than anyone.
The Mets won 70.
The Yankees sucked last year, they won 83 games. How does the 70 the Mets won compare?
You were 3 the last time the Mets won, the Yankees won in the last ten years, Mets not so much.
Did I say the Yankees were bad? No, I said I hate them. I can tell this is going to go nowhere.
And they are not the best team in baseball unless they win the World series. Winning more games in a different league means nothing. They rarely play NL teams. If Philly beats them in the World series (if the Yankees get there), Philly is the best team in baseball.
By the way, I was 4.
10-22-2009, 03:42 PM
#243
My Garage
Give me a f-ckin break. The Mets have had too many late season meltdowns in recent memory to count. Even when they are leading the NL East, they find ways to choke horribly down the stretch. Get rid of Willie Randolph, he's the culprit
They suck ass even more without him as skipper.
And yes, the Mets suck big fat donkey d-ck.
They suck ass even more without him as skipper. And yes, the Mets suck big fat donkey d-ck.
Remember when the Yankees had a 3-0 lead on Boston in a 7 game ALCS? They blew it badly. Wow, was horrible. Probably the worst choke anyone has ever seen in the history of any sport.
10-22-2009, 03:46 PM
#244
Talk crap after the Mets win 24 more World Series.
THE METS WON 70 GAMES THIS YEAR.
The Yankees are one win from the World Series.
Where are the Mets? HOME.
Talking about prior Yankee loses when your team was eliminated in June is really silly.
THE METS WON 70 GAMES THIS YEAR.
The Yankees are one win from the World Series.
Where are the Mets? HOME.
Talking about prior Yankee loses when your team was eliminated in June is really silly.
10-22-2009, 03:46 PM
#245
One on the right for me
They had 1 meltdown, in 2007. In 2008 they didn't choke, they lost the race. They had a 3 game lead with 17 left to play, that's nothing. It's not a collapse, that's what we call a pennant race. And they lost it to Philly, who wound up winning the world series.
Remember when the Yankees had a 3-0 lead on Boston in a 7 game ALCS? They blew it badly. Wow, was horrible. Probably the worst choke anyone has ever seen in the history of any sport.
Remember when the Yankees had a 3-0 lead on Boston in a 7 game ALCS? They blew it badly. Wow, was horrible. Probably the worst choke anyone has ever seen in the history of any sport.
10-22-2009, 03:58 PM
#246
My Garage
Maybe we will win 24 world series if you give us the extra 80 years the Yankees have had to win them. Those 1920's teams, guess what, there were no Mets then. You are exactly why I hate the Yankees and their fans. Your arguments are really illogical man.
10-22-2009, 04:28 PM
#247
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Im enjoying this arguement because it is somewhat humorous, but Gibson, you have to get your facts straight.
The Yankees were established in 1913 (Im not counting the previous names, Baltimore Orioles 1901-02 and NY Highlanders 1903-12). The Mets were established in 1962. Thats 49 years. They won 19 of their 26 titles in those 49 years.
When you get down to it, the Yankees have still been a better team since 1962, even through the 80s and early 90s when they weren't good. They have 7 World Series titles since the Mets have come to fruition. The Mets have won 2.
Yes, I am a New Yorker. Yes, I was born a Yankee fan (of my own choice, my mother is an Oakland fan, and my father doesnt watch baseball). No, I do not hate the Mets. If the Yankees werent in the Post Season and the Mets were, hell yea Id be rooting for them. Its just like when the Giants played the Pats in the Superbowl. I am a Jets fan, but I rooted for the Giants, not the Pats "just because they were in my league". The same goes for basketball, so on and so forth.
I wont deny that the Mets have some great talent (David Wright anybody?), but either it is by pure bad luck or bad judgement, they cannot seem to win, and you cannot hide that truth.
The Yankees were established in 1913 (Im not counting the previous names, Baltimore Orioles 1901-02 and NY Highlanders 1903-12). The Mets were established in 1962. Thats 49 years. They won 19 of their 26 titles in those 49 years.
When you get down to it, the Yankees have still been a better team since 1962, even through the 80s and early 90s when they weren't good. They have 7 World Series titles since the Mets have come to fruition. The Mets have won 2.
Yes, I am a New Yorker. Yes, I was born a Yankee fan (of my own choice, my mother is an Oakland fan, and my father doesnt watch baseball). No, I do not hate the Mets. If the Yankees werent in the Post Season and the Mets were, hell yea Id be rooting for them. Its just like when the Giants played the Pats in the Superbowl. I am a Jets fan, but I rooted for the Giants, not the Pats "just because they were in my league". The same goes for basketball, so on and so forth.
I wont deny that the Mets have some great talent (David Wright anybody?), but either it is by pure bad luck or bad judgement, they cannot seem to win, and you cannot hide that truth.
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10-22-2009, 04:38 PM
#248
Yea, the most of the team was injured. We've covered this already. You know as well as I do that the Mets are not a 70 win team when healthy.
Maybe we will win 24 world series if you give us the extra 80 years the Yankees have had to win them. Those 1920's teams, guess what, there were no Mets then. You are exactly why I hate the Yankees and their fans. Your arguments are really illogical man.
Maybe we will win 24 world series if you give us the extra 80 years the Yankees have had to win them. Those 1920's teams, guess what, there were no Mets then. You are exactly why I hate the Yankees and their fans. Your arguments are really illogical man.
The Mets threw Randolph out with the trash, he is a great man and they disrespected him, I hate that no matter what team does it, The Rangers did it to Leech, I hated it.
The Yankees can blame injuries on last year, they lost Wang this year, injury is part of the game, I am not arguing the Mets had a tough series of events. You are the one whining about it, hell I did not bring their HORRIBLE year until you started in with the Yankees bad years.
No matter how you slice it, Just taking into account the years the Mets have existed, record against record the Yankees are the better team.
My Aunt lives in Riverdale, she is an avid Mets fan, she says they have made serious mistakes.
I am a Yankee fan, I know they sucked last year, why not just admit your team had a bad year and get over it?
10-22-2009, 04:59 PM
#249
Suzuka Master
Injuries are a part of the game. You didn't hear us bitching when Wang was lost for the season. We improvised with Joba and are continuing to do so with the 3 man rotation in the playoffs. Fortunately CC is a beast. Bruney, Marte, and Nady were all significant injuries that hampered the Yanks' bullpen.
You bring up the 2004 ALCS as the worst choke in history. That may be the case but that was an excellent Bosox team and Schilling was legendary. What about our comeback after being down 0-2 against the favored Braves in 1996 and our domination of the WS from 98-00? (1 win was all the Padres, Braves, and Mets could muster COMBINED)
6 WS in 8 consecutive years?!?!? Try matching that record in any other major sport.
I have no sympathy for the Mets with their comparable payroll. Santana, Delgado, Beltran, and K-rod are getting paid millions to play golf in October instead at $600 million Citi.
You bring up the 2004 ALCS as the worst choke in history. That may be the case but that was an excellent Bosox team and Schilling was legendary. What about our comeback after being down 0-2 against the favored Braves in 1996 and our domination of the WS from 98-00? (1 win was all the Padres, Braves, and Mets could muster COMBINED)
6 WS in 8 consecutive years?!?!? Try matching that record in any other major sport.
I have no sympathy for the Mets with their comparable payroll. Santana, Delgado, Beltran, and K-rod are getting paid millions to play golf in October instead at $600 million Citi.
10-22-2009, 05:23 PM
#251
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10-22-2009, 05:39 PM
#252
Did anyone else know this about the Mets? Is there anymore info on this?
I just found this on the web.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/...us_mets_madoff
I just found this on the web.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/...us_mets_madoff
10-22-2009, 06:14 PM
#253
Did anyone else know this about the Mets? Is there anymore info on this?
I just found this on the web.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/...us_mets_madoff
I just found this on the web.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/...us_mets_madoff
10-22-2009, 08:12 PM
#255
My Garage
Im enjoying this arguement because it is somewhat humorous, but Gibson, you have to get your facts straight.
The Yankees were established in 1913 (Im not counting the previous names, Baltimore Orioles 1901-02 and NY Highlanders 1903-12). The Mets were established in 1962. Thats 49 years. They won 19 of their 26 titles in those 49 years.
When you get down to it, the Yankees have still been a better team since 1962, even through the 80s and early 90s when they weren't good. They have 7 World Series titles since the Mets have come to fruition. The Mets have won 2.
Yes, I am a New Yorker. Yes, I was born a Yankee fan (of my own choice, my mother is an Oakland fan, and my father doesnt watch baseball). No, I do not hate the Mets. If the Yankees werent in the Post Season and the Mets were, hell yea Id be rooting for them. Its just like when the Giants played the Pats in the Superbowl. I am a Jets fan, but I rooted for the Giants, not the Pats "just because they were in my league". The same goes for basketball, so on and so forth.
I wont deny that the Mets have some great talent (David Wright anybody?), but either it is by pure bad luck or bad judgement, they cannot seem to win, and you cannot hide that truth.
The Yankees were established in 1913 (Im not counting the previous names, Baltimore Orioles 1901-02 and NY Highlanders 1903-12). The Mets were established in 1962. Thats 49 years. They won 19 of their 26 titles in those 49 years.
When you get down to it, the Yankees have still been a better team since 1962, even through the 80s and early 90s when they weren't good. They have 7 World Series titles since the Mets have come to fruition. The Mets have won 2.
Yes, I am a New Yorker. Yes, I was born a Yankee fan (of my own choice, my mother is an Oakland fan, and my father doesnt watch baseball). No, I do not hate the Mets. If the Yankees werent in the Post Season and the Mets were, hell yea Id be rooting for them. Its just like when the Giants played the Pats in the Superbowl. I am a Jets fan, but I rooted for the Giants, not the Pats "just because they were in my league". The same goes for basketball, so on and so forth.
I wont deny that the Mets have some great talent (David Wright anybody?), but either it is by pure bad luck or bad judgement, they cannot seem to win, and you cannot hide that truth.
10-22-2009, 08:22 PM
#256
My Garage
You are why I hate illogical people, I left the past alone and spoke about THIS YEAR. You bring up the '20s WTF???
The Mets threw Randolph out with the trash, he is a great man and they disrespected him, I hate that no matter what team does it, The Rangers did it to Leech, I hated it.
The Yankees can blame injuries on last year, they lost Wang this year, injury is part of the game, I am not arguing the Mets had a tough series of events. You are the one whining about it, hell I did not bring their HORRIBLE year until you started in with the Yankees bad years.
No matter how you slice it, Just taking into account the years the Mets have existed, record against record the Yankees are the better team.
My Aunt lives in Riverdale, she is an avid Mets fan, she says they have made serious mistakes.
I am a Yankee fan, I know they sucked last year, why not just admit your team had a bad year and get over it?
The Mets threw Randolph out with the trash, he is a great man and they disrespected him, I hate that no matter what team does it, The Rangers did it to Leech, I hated it.
The Yankees can blame injuries on last year, they lost Wang this year, injury is part of the game, I am not arguing the Mets had a tough series of events. You are the one whining about it, hell I did not bring their HORRIBLE year until you started in with the Yankees bad years.
No matter how you slice it, Just taking into account the years the Mets have existed, record against record the Yankees are the better team.
My Aunt lives in Riverdale, she is an avid Mets fan, she says they have made serious mistakes.
I am a Yankee fan, I know they sucked last year, why not just admit your team had a bad year and get over it?
"Talk crap after the Mets win 24 more World Series."
I left the past alone and spoke about THIS YEAR. You bring up the '20s WTF???
I never said that Mets had a good year...they had a terrible year. I never denied that. I brought up the Yankees bad year because you said the Mets perennially suck.
I still don't what you are trying to say, this argument has gone way off track. My point is I'm against the whole 'if my team sucks this year, I'm gonna root for the other team in the state.' mentality. You act like I'm the only one who feels this way. How do you think White Sox fans feel about Cubs fans? They hate eachother.
10-22-2009, 08:27 PM
#257
My Garage
Blah, blah, blah. You talk about logic and use the "we woulda won X games if we were healthy." No, I don't know that. Games aren't played on paper. You look at teams on paper, with their lineup and talent, and oftentimes they do not meet expectations even with no injuries.
OK, how about play 24 playoff series?
OK, how about play 24 playoff series?
I never said we would have won X games. I said we were a better than 70 win team when healthy. It's called statistics and projections. They are major part of any sport. Spare me the "anything can happen" routine. Over the course of the season, the teams that are generally predicted to come out on top, usually do.
10-22-2009, 08:34 PM
#259
My Garage
Injuries are a part of the game. You didn't hear us bitching when Wang was lost for the season. We improvised with Joba and are continuing to do so with the 3 man rotation in the playoffs. Fortunately CC is a beast. Bruney, Marte, and Nady were all significant injuries that hampered the Yanks' bullpen.
You bring up the 2004 ALCS as the worst choke in history. That may be the case but that was an excellent Bosox team and Schilling was legendary. What about our comeback after being down 0-2 against the favored Braves in 1996 and our domination of the WS from 98-00? (1 win was all the Padres, Braves, and Mets could muster COMBINED)
6 WS in 8 consecutive years?!?!? Try matching that record in any other major sport.
I have no sympathy for the Mets with their comparable payroll. Santana, Delgado, Beltran, and K-rod are getting paid millions to play golf in October instead at $600 million Citi.
You bring up the 2004 ALCS as the worst choke in history. That may be the case but that was an excellent Bosox team and Schilling was legendary. What about our comeback after being down 0-2 against the favored Braves in 1996 and our domination of the WS from 98-00? (1 win was all the Padres, Braves, and Mets could muster COMBINED)
6 WS in 8 consecutive years?!?!? Try matching that record in any other major sport.
I have no sympathy for the Mets with their comparable payroll. Santana, Delgado, Beltran, and K-rod are getting paid millions to play golf in October instead at $600 million Citi.
I heard many Yankees fans bitching about Wang, you guys cry like little babies if you don't make the post season. Like you have some sense of entitlement. You guys didn't lose your core last year. You lost your platoon players. Wang sucks anyway.
Rationalize the Boston events any way you want. You can't talk shit about the Mets collapsing after what the Yankees did in that series.
And for the 10th time, we don't want your sympathy. You should hate them. I surely hate the Yankees.
10-22-2009, 08:45 PM
#261
I think the reason why Yankee fans cry when they don't make the postseason is because there should be no reason why the shouldn't make the postseason. If the Dodgers had that kind of payroll and all star lineup I'd be pissed too if we didn't make the postseason. However, as a Dodger fan, this is the reason why I laugh when they don't make it. 
On that note, damn their getting owned by the Angels tonight. Although, I think they want to go back to N.Y. to clinch.
I have to admit I'm kinda :theghey: on David Wright, he's one of my fav 3B in the league.
and Jose Reyes isn't too shabby either. Mets have always been contenders in the N.L., every year I go to at least one Dodger/Met game cause its usually a pretty good game. Hopefully Gibson they get well and stay away from injuries so we can battle it out next season.
On that note, damn their getting owned by the Angels tonight. Although, I think they want to go back to N.Y. to clinch.
I have to admit I'm kinda :theghey: on David Wright, he's one of my fav 3B in the league.
and Jose Reyes isn't too shabby either. Mets have always been contenders in the N.L., every year I go to at least one Dodger/Met game cause its usually a pretty good game. Hopefully Gibson they get well and stay away from injuries so we can battle it out next season.
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10-22-2009, 09:28 PM
#265
Huge lead? What are you referring too?
Whose "they"? Dodgers? If so, they did blow it, good observation Captian Obvious!
Why you bringing up the past?
Yes they did lose the NLCS, glad to see your paying attention.
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10-22-2009, 09:36 PM
#269
Suzuka Master
Giggity the top of the 7th was 
Texeira is worth every dollar the Yanks threw his way, sooooo cluth in the postseason. Cano is stepping up big, the pinstripes need to close out tonight.
Gibson, nobody wants to hear your whining or about your pathetic Mets. Stop polluting this thread with your nonsensical ramblings and inability to do basic arithmetic.
10-22-2009, 09:38 PM
#270
Ok....I don't understand where you are coming from or your comment. Please explain.
Huge lead? What are you referring too?
Whose "they"? Dodgers? If so, they did blow it, good observation Captian Obvious!
Why you bringing up the past?
Yes they did lose the NLCS, glad to see your paying attention.
Huge lead? What are you referring too?
Whose "they"? Dodgers? If so, they did blow it, good observation Captian Obvious!
Why you bringing up the past?
Yes they did lose the NLCS, glad to see your paying attention.
The 2009 season is so far back, I understand you don't want to dwell in that history seeing as your team is done.
10-22-2009, 09:39 PM
#272
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Really, that's all you got? That there is more to it than what's on paper?
I never said we would have won X games. I said we were a better than 70 win team when healthy. It's called statistics and projections. They are major part of any sport. Spare me the "anything can happen" routine. Over the course of the season, the teams that are generally predicted to come out on top, usually do.
I never said we would have won X games. I said we were a better than 70 win team when healthy. It's called statistics and projections. They are major part of any sport. Spare me the "anything can happen" routine. Over the course of the season, the teams that are generally predicted to come out on top, usually do.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, didn't. Cry me a river about the Mets' injuries. The Mets should've made it to the playoffs in 2007, but didn't, so don't tell me about projections and statistics. The Yankees should've beaten the Red Sox in 2004, but didn't. So your argument is lame.
And if you think Wang sucks, you've lost all credibility. Before this season, his record was 54-20.
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10-22-2009, 09:44 PM
#275
Oh shit tie game, go Angels!! Haha!!
Where are all the Angels fans anyway?
Nevermind, Angels take the lead!!
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10-22-2009, 09:47 PM
#277
One on the right for me
If the Yankees were a real team this would have been in the bag. I know they came to play but wow, unless they are just trying to make this interesting and want to take it back in NY.
