Landis drug doping is getting more interesting
02-24-2007, 12:17 PM
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Landis drug doping is getting more interesting
As reported by Velonews
The F&#Kin French
They can't do anything right.
If you get a positive on the first sample another set of testers is supposed to test the B sample. These idiots tested both samples. Well this is acutually good for Landis.
Newspaper reports protocol violation in Landis testing
By Agence France Presse
This report filed February 23, 2007
Embattled Tour de France winner Floyd Landis received a boost in his fight against a positive doping test from French lab records that show a protocol violation, the Los Angeles Times reported on Friday.
The newspaper reported Tuesday that the French laboratory which found the positive results against Landis had two technicians, involved in the original urinalysis and the confirming test, validating their own findings.
Such access to both samples violates anti-doping regulations and supports Landis's contention that numerous errors in the chain of care regarding the tests and samples should invalidate the doping positive.
A similar mistake made by the same lab in 2005 resulted in the dismissal of doping charges against Spanish cyclist Inigo Landaluze in December, the Times reported.
The French lab records were given to Landis's lawyers, and subsequently reviewed by the newspaper, ahead of a May 14 hearing before a U.S. Anti-Doping Agency arbitration panel, at which Landis will make his case to have the doping violation thrown out.
Landis, 31, would be stripped of his Tour de France victory and given a two-year ban unless the positive is thrown out under World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) appeal guidelines.
Landis also faces a French government probe, but that has been delayed until after the U.S. inquiry following the American's promise not to race in France this year, ending any chance to defend his title.
Landis's lawyers want to question the technicians, Esther Cerpolini and Cynthia Mongongu of Laboratorie National Depistage du Dopage in the Paris suburb of Chatenay-Malabry.
It was unclear from the paperwork if Mongongu and Cerpolini had roles significant enough in both tests to invalidate the positive finding.
But arbitrators last December in Landaluze's case declared it is "forbidden that the same analyst handles or manipulates" original and validation samples, adding, "the applicable rule is clear and devoid of any flexibility."
Other lab records undermine the case against Landis, including one document altered anonymously after Landis questioned its accuracy then declared original after alteration, potentially by lab employees or French anti-doping officials.
Another shows the machine that produced the reading which showed artificial testosterone in Landis's system was operated outside manufacturer guidelines and with outdated software designed for another machine, factors Landis claims could cause errors.
Lab documents linked Landis to the sample in question, a violation of anonymity requirements.
Attorneys for Landis have filed a detailed request for many more lab documents and want depositions from lab personnel.
Papers filed with the three-person US arbitration panel show USADA wants retesting of nine "B" samples of urine from Landis tests even after "A" samples were clean in hopes of more evidence against the cyclist, the Times reported.
Landis attorneys argue such retesting of clean samples violates anti-doping rules requiring "A" and "B" sample matches for a test to be declared positive. Some "A" samples of Landis tests no longer exist.
In a closed-door session on Thursday, the arbitration panel considered both the Landis document and testimony requests and USADA's retest requests.
By Agence France Presse
This report filed February 23, 2007
Embattled Tour de France winner Floyd Landis received a boost in his fight against a positive doping test from French lab records that show a protocol violation, the Los Angeles Times reported on Friday.
The newspaper reported Tuesday that the French laboratory which found the positive results against Landis had two technicians, involved in the original urinalysis and the confirming test, validating their own findings.
Such access to both samples violates anti-doping regulations and supports Landis's contention that numerous errors in the chain of care regarding the tests and samples should invalidate the doping positive.
A similar mistake made by the same lab in 2005 resulted in the dismissal of doping charges against Spanish cyclist Inigo Landaluze in December, the Times reported.
The French lab records were given to Landis's lawyers, and subsequently reviewed by the newspaper, ahead of a May 14 hearing before a U.S. Anti-Doping Agency arbitration panel, at which Landis will make his case to have the doping violation thrown out.
Landis, 31, would be stripped of his Tour de France victory and given a two-year ban unless the positive is thrown out under World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) appeal guidelines.
Landis also faces a French government probe, but that has been delayed until after the U.S. inquiry following the American's promise not to race in France this year, ending any chance to defend his title.
Landis's lawyers want to question the technicians, Esther Cerpolini and Cynthia Mongongu of Laboratorie National Depistage du Dopage in the Paris suburb of Chatenay-Malabry.
It was unclear from the paperwork if Mongongu and Cerpolini had roles significant enough in both tests to invalidate the positive finding.
But arbitrators last December in Landaluze's case declared it is "forbidden that the same analyst handles or manipulates" original and validation samples, adding, "the applicable rule is clear and devoid of any flexibility."
Other lab records undermine the case against Landis, including one document altered anonymously after Landis questioned its accuracy then declared original after alteration, potentially by lab employees or French anti-doping officials.
Another shows the machine that produced the reading which showed artificial testosterone in Landis's system was operated outside manufacturer guidelines and with outdated software designed for another machine, factors Landis claims could cause errors.
Lab documents linked Landis to the sample in question, a violation of anonymity requirements.
Attorneys for Landis have filed a detailed request for many more lab documents and want depositions from lab personnel.
Papers filed with the three-person US arbitration panel show USADA wants retesting of nine "B" samples of urine from Landis tests even after "A" samples were clean in hopes of more evidence against the cyclist, the Times reported.
Landis attorneys argue such retesting of clean samples violates anti-doping rules requiring "A" and "B" sample matches for a test to be declared positive. Some "A" samples of Landis tests no longer exist.
In a closed-door session on Thursday, the arbitration panel considered both the Landis document and testimony requests and USADA's retest requests.
They can't do anything right.
If you get a positive on the first sample another set of testers is supposed to test the B sample. These idiots tested both samples. Well this is acutually good for Landis.
02-24-2007, 02:23 PM
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Landis didin't do anything wrong. The French are just pissed that they've been 
by America the last eight years.
by America the last eight years.
05-18-2007, 08:53 AM
#3
Keeping emos out of
Landis aide threatens LeMond
Manager accused of blackmail
BY T.J QUINN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Friday, May 18th 2007, 4:00 AM
The quiet hearing about whether Floyd Landis cheated in the Tour de France erupted into legal lunacy yesterday when his manager was publicly fired for making a perverse threatening phone call to a living sports legend.
Three-time Tour winner Greg LeMond, at the hearing in Malibu, Calif., to testify against the beleaguered Landis, told the three-member arbitration panel that he had received the call Wednesday night and later traced it to Landis' manager, Will Geoghegan. According to LeMond, who yesterday admitted before the panel to being sexually abused as a child, Geoghegan called him and said, "Hi, Greg, this is your uncle," before adding, "I'll be there tomorrow and we can talk about how we used to hide your weenie."
LeMond reported the call to Malibu police. Geoghegan confessed to making the call and apologized to LeMond yesterday, but Landis' attorney, Maurice Suh, fired Geoghegan on the spot. All the while Landis, who wore all black to yesterday's proceedings at the Pepperdine Law School in protest of LeMond's presence, sat quietly.
LeMond told reporters as he left that he felt the call was an attempt to prevent his testimony, with his history of abuse fueling the blackmail attempt. "It was a real threat, it was real creepy, and I think it shows the extent of who it is," LeMond told reporters. "I think there's another side of Floyd that the public hasn't seen."
Landis, who tested positive for excessive testosterone levels during the race last year, has mounted a vigorous public defense of himself, attacking the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and the Montreal lab that tested his urine samples.
As with most sports that test for performance-enhancing drugs, in cycling any athlete who has a "T/E" ratio greater than 4-to-1 - meaning the amount of testosterone compared to the hormone epitestosterone - has failed the test. Landis tested at an unusually high 11-1 ratio, but is challenging the lab's security and competence.
Landis first argued that he had naturally high testosterone, despite the fact that he had never failed a test before. He has since said there is no reason he would have tested at such a high level, but as the Daily News first reported last year, doping experts have said there is one scenario that could easily explain it: cyclists who cheat typically apply a testosterone patch to the scrotum at the end of a stage in order to enhance their recovery from the day's wear and tear. After a few hours the patch is removed, and the testosterone levels drop to safe levels before the athletes are tested. Landis admitted to drinking heavily the night before he surged to first place, and if he had used such a patch and forgotten to remove it, his testosterone levels could have been as high as 11-1.
But it was LeMond's testimony that dominated the day. He was there at USADA's request to recount a conversation with Landis last year in which LeMond urged Landis to "come clean."
LeMond said Landis called him after last year's Tour victory and demanded to know why Le-Mond was making negative statements about him. LeMond said the 36-minute call took place on Aug.6, one day after Landis tested positive for elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone levels during Stage 17 of that year's Tour.
"If you did take testosterone, for your own health and your own future - you are 30 years old - this will come back to haunt to you," LeMond said he told Landis. "I shared this with him with the idea of him seeing what keeping a secret would do. I was very careful and said to him: Because I don't know if you did or didn't but if you did you could be the one to salvage the sport."
"What good would it do?" Le-Mond said Landis replied. "He said he didn't see that anything good would come out of this. (He said) 'if I did, it would destroy a lot of friends and a lot of people.'"
The three-man arbitration panel hearing nine days of testimony will decide whether to uphold Landis' positive doping test after Stage 17 of last year's Tour. If it does, Landis could face a two-year ban from cycling and become the first person in the 104-year history of the Tour to have his title stripped for a doping offense.
The hearings began Monday. They are due to wrap up on Wednesday.
Manager accused of blackmail
BY T.J QUINN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Friday, May 18th 2007, 4:00 AM
The quiet hearing about whether Floyd Landis cheated in the Tour de France erupted into legal lunacy yesterday when his manager was publicly fired for making a perverse threatening phone call to a living sports legend.
Three-time Tour winner Greg LeMond, at the hearing in Malibu, Calif., to testify against the beleaguered Landis, told the three-member arbitration panel that he had received the call Wednesday night and later traced it to Landis' manager, Will Geoghegan. According to LeMond, who yesterday admitted before the panel to being sexually abused as a child, Geoghegan called him and said, "Hi, Greg, this is your uncle," before adding, "I'll be there tomorrow and we can talk about how we used to hide your weenie."
LeMond reported the call to Malibu police. Geoghegan confessed to making the call and apologized to LeMond yesterday, but Landis' attorney, Maurice Suh, fired Geoghegan on the spot. All the while Landis, who wore all black to yesterday's proceedings at the Pepperdine Law School in protest of LeMond's presence, sat quietly.
LeMond told reporters as he left that he felt the call was an attempt to prevent his testimony, with his history of abuse fueling the blackmail attempt. "It was a real threat, it was real creepy, and I think it shows the extent of who it is," LeMond told reporters. "I think there's another side of Floyd that the public hasn't seen."
Landis, who tested positive for excessive testosterone levels during the race last year, has mounted a vigorous public defense of himself, attacking the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and the Montreal lab that tested his urine samples.
As with most sports that test for performance-enhancing drugs, in cycling any athlete who has a "T/E" ratio greater than 4-to-1 - meaning the amount of testosterone compared to the hormone epitestosterone - has failed the test. Landis tested at an unusually high 11-1 ratio, but is challenging the lab's security and competence.
Landis first argued that he had naturally high testosterone, despite the fact that he had never failed a test before. He has since said there is no reason he would have tested at such a high level, but as the Daily News first reported last year, doping experts have said there is one scenario that could easily explain it: cyclists who cheat typically apply a testosterone patch to the scrotum at the end of a stage in order to enhance their recovery from the day's wear and tear. After a few hours the patch is removed, and the testosterone levels drop to safe levels before the athletes are tested. Landis admitted to drinking heavily the night before he surged to first place, and if he had used such a patch and forgotten to remove it, his testosterone levels could have been as high as 11-1.
But it was LeMond's testimony that dominated the day. He was there at USADA's request to recount a conversation with Landis last year in which LeMond urged Landis to "come clean."
LeMond said Landis called him after last year's Tour victory and demanded to know why Le-Mond was making negative statements about him. LeMond said the 36-minute call took place on Aug.6, one day after Landis tested positive for elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone levels during Stage 17 of that year's Tour.
"If you did take testosterone, for your own health and your own future - you are 30 years old - this will come back to haunt to you," LeMond said he told Landis. "I shared this with him with the idea of him seeing what keeping a secret would do. I was very careful and said to him: Because I don't know if you did or didn't but if you did you could be the one to salvage the sport."
"What good would it do?" Le-Mond said Landis replied. "He said he didn't see that anything good would come out of this. (He said) 'if I did, it would destroy a lot of friends and a lot of people.'"
The three-man arbitration panel hearing nine days of testimony will decide whether to uphold Landis' positive doping test after Stage 17 of last year's Tour. If it does, Landis could face a two-year ban from cycling and become the first person in the 104-year history of the Tour to have his title stripped for a doping offense.
The hearings began Monday. They are due to wrap up on Wednesday.
05-18-2007, 09:34 AM
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Geoghegan was an idiot, especially placing a call from a traceable phone. Doesn't look good for Landis.
05-18-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Landis didin't do anything wrong. The French are just pissed that they've been out cheated by America the last eight years.
Fixed
05-12-2008, 06:52 PM
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is learning to moonwalk i
And for the insult added to injury (or vice versa?) now the anti-doping agency wants to recoup court costs from Landis.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080512/...Ipqqj6dq4E1vAI
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080512/...Ipqqj6dq4E1vAI
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