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Re: Uhm, didnt the NHL season just end like last week??
Originally posted by jts1207
this year round hockey crap is for the birds:shakehd: :shakehd:
and the poor NFL only plays 16
this year round hockey crap is for the birds:shakehd: :shakehd:
and the poor NFL only plays 16
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Originally posted by DHRJDMBA
hey TMK where did you play hockey?
hey TMK where did you play hockey?
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I played growing up from 4 on up. Played at Newton N. and then played at Brandeis which was lame - and then played at Suffolk - now I just skate on a men's league team.
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I am playing highschool hockey right now, im one of the top scorers, I live in Dallas and I can remember back when hockey was a unheard of sport down here.. but as soon as the Stars started performing... it exploded. oh yea......
GO WINGS
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#290
Suzuka Master
What kind of junk is the Ferrari made of?
What kind of junk is the Ferrari made of that it would "split in two"? The results of the collision may not have been any different but a car "splitting in two" as a result of a collision points to a serious design/structural/or material flaw!
You have to wonder if this car was welded to gether from the front and rear halves of two wrecked cars?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes
You have to wonder if this car was welded to gether from the front and rear halves of two wrecked cars?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes
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Re: What kind of junk is the Ferrari made of?
Originally posted by SpeedyV6
What kind of junk is the Ferrari made of that it would "split in two"? The results of the collision may not have been any different but a car "splitting in two" as a result of a collision points to a serious design/structural/or material flaw!
What kind of junk is the Ferrari made of that it would "split in two"? The results of the collision may not have been any different but a car "splitting in two" as a result of a collision points to a serious design/structural/or material flaw!
The engine is in the back.
The Tranny is in-between the seats.
There’s not much weight/structure in the front.
If you hit on the side she’s gonna snap like a twig.
Kind of like a FWD car in reverse. When a FWD car gets hit in a certain way the entire front clip lets go.
Shawn S
#294
Suzuka Master
According to BuffaloNews.com it was a 360 convertible. [Snyder was a passenger in Heatley's Ferrari 360 convertible when, according to Atlanta police, it crashed into a brick pillar and cast-iron fence at about 80 mph. ]
IMO: The monocoque chassis of an S2000 woud've held together under the same circumstance.
IMO: The monocoque chassis of an S2000 woud've held together under the same circumstance.
#295
Outdoor Hockey!
Oilers vs. Canadiens in Edmonton outside.
BRRRRR!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview?gameId=231122006
this is really cool, i remember they did a UM-MSU hockey game at the Big House in Ann Arbor a while back, i think that was the largest crowd at any hockey game evar.
BRRRRR!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview?gameId=231122006
this is really cool, i remember they did a UM-MSU hockey game at the Big House in Ann Arbor a while back, i think that was the largest crowd at any hockey game evar.
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And, my Habitants won!! Wohoo!!
I just can't follow hockey like I used to. It's tough since I haven't played in forever.
Plus, I hate the Bruins, so I really don't wanna watch that nonsense around here.
I just can't follow hockey like I used to. It's tough since I haven't played in forever.
Plus, I hate the Bruins, so I really don't wanna watch that nonsense around here.
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I just saw that on Sports Center. Looks like it was fun... that is how cold it is all the time... in Upstate new york... damn waiting for the bus to school was cold and tramatic.
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Hockey talk anyone?
With all of our Canadian members on this site, I'm sure this will will bring back some happy memories and some painful ones too.
As a kid growing up in Connecticut I had the luxury of my parents owning a pond which froze over nicely every winter. I remember my brothers and I shoveling it off after a snow, playing hockey before school and after school every freakin' day. Good times.
Then the Whalers came to town in the WHA. Really good times. Then they merged into the NHL w/ Winnipeg, Quebec & Edmonton. Most excellent times.
Now the Whale moved down south to NASCAR country...WTF? Same thing w/ Winnipeg & Quebec moving out.
My question to our northern neighbors: How did you handle your teams moving south? Me, I'm an American and it crushed me. I can also ask Minnesota this, but you got a team back.
As a kid growing up in Connecticut I had the luxury of my parents owning a pond which froze over nicely every winter. I remember my brothers and I shoveling it off after a snow, playing hockey before school and after school every freakin' day. Good times.
Then the Whalers came to town in the WHA. Really good times. Then they merged into the NHL w/ Winnipeg, Quebec & Edmonton. Most excellent times.
Now the Whale moved down south to NASCAR country...WTF? Same thing w/ Winnipeg & Quebec moving out.
My question to our northern neighbors: How did you handle your teams moving south? Me, I'm an American and it crushed me. I can also ask Minnesota this, but you got a team back.
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Hockey talk! That's what I need to take my grieving mind away from football.
I think it's sad watching the old Canadian teams leave - damn those high salaries and exchange rate!
One thing I'll say about Carolina - they've got one loud ass building. That building is really cool - they were my home team for a year. Could always get tix though, which is disappointing in a way. I'd go with fellow Dukies who had free tix from their department, and they didn't know shit about hockey. But A4, there were always a few 'transplants' with old-school Whaler jerseys on... fyi.
I don't think Philly is in any danger of losing the Flyers, though they might get booed out if they don't pull it together. When they moved into their new building, they actually booted their AHL affiliate and formed a new one (the Phantoms), with the old building as their home base. Did Hartford ever get an AHL or IHL affiliate?? Minor league hockey games are fun - nobody ever leaves anything in the locker room since they're trying to impress the mother team's scouts. I used to go to Richmond Renegades games (IHL)- $10 for 3rd row from the ice.
I think it's sad watching the old Canadian teams leave - damn those high salaries and exchange rate!
One thing I'll say about Carolina - they've got one loud ass building. That building is really cool - they were my home team for a year. Could always get tix though, which is disappointing in a way. I'd go with fellow Dukies who had free tix from their department, and they didn't know shit about hockey. But A4, there were always a few 'transplants' with old-school Whaler jerseys on... fyi.
I don't think Philly is in any danger of losing the Flyers, though they might get booed out if they don't pull it together. When they moved into their new building, they actually booted their AHL affiliate and formed a new one (the Phantoms), with the old building as their home base. Did Hartford ever get an AHL or IHL affiliate?? Minor league hockey games are fun - nobody ever leaves anything in the locker room since they're trying to impress the mother team's scouts. I used to go to Richmond Renegades games (IHL)- $10 for 3rd row from the ice.
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There's been some talk of Pittsburgh moving to Winnipeg. How funny does that sound?
I was sad to see our teams move. Even sadder thinking about those Quebec fans who missed the Stanley Cup by a year. Same goes for North Star fans. The big three (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal) will always be here, but I worry about Calgary and Edmonton. That upcoming CBA is going to be a war!
The NHL really screwed up by expanding so much, IMO. Players that before wouldn't make the NHL are now 1st liners on some shit teams. There's so many more guys now who are willing to do anything(clutch and grab) just to keep their jobs. This goes for the coaches as well, clogging the neutral zone with their traps and such.
I'm in paradise here in Vancouver. Crawford encourages offensive hockey, with defencemen joining the rush almost always. But still when The Wild or Devils come to town, the entertainment level drops and the chess match begins. BORING
All in all, I find it hard to watch on TV with all the commercial breaks and stuff. Now being at the rink...that's the shiznit!!!:P
I was sad to see our teams move. Even sadder thinking about those Quebec fans who missed the Stanley Cup by a year. Same goes for North Star fans. The big three (Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal) will always be here, but I worry about Calgary and Edmonton. That upcoming CBA is going to be a war!
The NHL really screwed up by expanding so much, IMO. Players that before wouldn't make the NHL are now 1st liners on some shit teams. There's so many more guys now who are willing to do anything(clutch and grab) just to keep their jobs. This goes for the coaches as well, clogging the neutral zone with their traps and such.
I'm in paradise here in Vancouver. Crawford encourages offensive hockey, with defencemen joining the rush almost always. But still when The Wild or Devils come to town, the entertainment level drops and the chess match begins. BORING
All in all, I find it hard to watch on TV with all the commercial breaks and stuff. Now being at the rink...that's the shiznit!!!:P
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Originally posted by jcg878
there were always a few 'transplants' with old-school Whaler jerseys on... fyi.
Did Hartford ever get an AHL or IHL affiliate?? Minor league hockey games are fun - nobody ever leaves anything in the locker room since they're trying to impress the mother team's scouts. I used to go to Richmond Renegades games (IHL)- $10 for 3rd row from the ice.
there were always a few 'transplants' with old-school Whaler jerseys on... fyi.
Did Hartford ever get an AHL or IHL affiliate?? Minor league hockey games are fun - nobody ever leaves anything in the locker room since they're trying to impress the mother team's scouts. I used to go to Richmond Renegades games (IHL)- $10 for 3rd row from the ice.
My job allows me to travel a few times a year and I always bring my inlines and if it's an NHL town, my Whaler's jersey. In Edmonton I saw them play the Avs and I couldn't believe all the people who chanted 'GO WHALERS' when they saw me.
#304
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Re: Hockey talk anyone?
Originally posted by A4NoMore
My question to our northern neighbors: How did you handle your teams moving south? Me, I'm an American and it crushed me. I can also ask Minnesota this, but you got a team back.
My question to our northern neighbors: How did you handle your teams moving south? Me, I'm an American and it crushed me. I can also ask Minnesota this, but you got a team back.
But seriously like Soze said, Edmonton and Calgary may very well lose their teams if the new CBA does'nt seriously help them, but T.O, Montreal and Vancouver are'nt going anywhere.
The NHL as a league is in big trrouble. After this season's TV contract runs out they will no have pratically 0 TV revenues. Leagues need TV revenue (See NFL, NBA) without it they will become a gate driven leaugue where its hard to make big profits.
What should they do?
- Cut 6 to 10 teams - Not only will this help the quality of the on ice product by getting rid of a heap of horrible hockey players but it also gets rid of the teams and cities that can't attract fans. (manly US cities)
- Go to an international size ice surface. - We all saw how great Olypic hockey was. The game is faster, has better flow, less trapping and more scroring. Increase the width from 85 to 100 feet. I currently play on an Olympic size and regular size rink on a weekly basis and I enjpy myself ten fold on the Olypic size rink, much more room to play and make plays.
- Downsize goalie equipment - Have you seen footage of goalies in the 70's and 80's? Obviously the NHL has done a horrible job of regulating this.
- Call the rules by the book - I don't care if there are initially 60 penalties a game. Start calling clutch and grabs. If someone hooks another player from behind with their stick (which happems about 100 times a game) thats a penalty. I know I can't watch anything but playoff hockey anymore because of that . You can't skate without being mauled, its freakin ridiculous.
- Get back to the "Oilers of the 80's Hockey" - Lets see some high flyin goal scoring games like we used to have. The NHL is full of some very talented players. Let them use that talent to make plays, not backcheck because the coach will bench them if they don't.
- Make the "Neutral Zone Trap" Illegal - Basketball introduced the zone and 3 sec in the key rule. Its time the NHL does'nt allow more than 2 players from a team in the neutral zone at any time. (Of course widening the ice may take care of this problem anyway.)
Those are my idea's, the NHL better do something soon or they are in big trouble. I can see only 20 teams in about 6 to 8 years if things remain the same.
#305
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Re: Re: Hockey talk anyone?
Originally posted by domn
What should they do?
- Cut 6 to 10 teams - Not only will this help the quality of the on ice product by getting rid of a heap of horrible hockey players but it also gets rid of the teams and cities that can't attract fans. (manly US cities)
What should they do?
- Cut 6 to 10 teams - Not only will this help the quality of the on ice product by getting rid of a heap of horrible hockey players but it also gets rid of the teams and cities that can't attract fans. (manly US cities)
- Go to an international size ice surface. - We all saw how great Olypic hockey was. The game is faster, has better flow, less trapping and more scroring. Increase the width from 85 to 100 feet. I currently play on an Olympic size and regular size rink on a weekly basis and I enjpy myself ten fold on the Olypic size rink, much more room to play and make plays.
- Downsize goalie equipment - Have you seen footage of goalies in the 70's and 80's? Obviously the NHL has done a horrible job of regulating this.
- Make the "Neutral Zone Trap" Illegal - Basketball introduced the zone and 3 sec in the key rule. Its time the NHL does'nt allow more than 2 players from a team in the neutral zone at any time. (Of course widening the ice may take care of this problem anyway.)
I think that since its going to be hard to make the rinks bigger, then maybe move the nets back a bit. This will create more open space and eliminiate some of the puck cycling along the boards that has become very popular. It would also keep goalies in their net more often.
#306
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Drastic times call fro drastic measures. I agree that making the trap illegal would be unatural, not to mention almost impossible to officiate or control, but something must be done.
Making the ice surface wider is something I don't think they can avoid doing. Yes it may cost millions, but how can you possibly create space without creating more ice surface. Moving the net back is only part of the equation. Remove the first two rows of seating at every arena which will easily gve you the nessesary room to go to 100 feet.
The results I think will more than justify the intial costs. If I as a born and raised Canadian who plays the game cannot stand to watch hockey, no can't stand to watch the NHL expect people in Columbus and Carolina to watch a game they know pratically nothing about. Bring back the excitement at any cost.
Making the ice surface wider is something I don't think they can avoid doing. Yes it may cost millions, but how can you possibly create space without creating more ice surface. Moving the net back is only part of the equation. Remove the first two rows of seating at every arena which will easily gve you the nessesary room to go to 100 feet.
The results I think will more than justify the intial costs. If I as a born and raised Canadian who plays the game cannot stand to watch hockey, no can't stand to watch the NHL expect people in Columbus and Carolina to watch a game they know pratically nothing about. Bring back the excitement at any cost.
#308
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Originally posted by A4NoMore
I like that idea of 200x100. What do you think about removing the red line?
I like that idea of 200x100. What do you think about removing the red line?
I hate the idea of 4 on 4 as well. The only reason the game has changed is because coaches have become too smart in their schemes and styles. Countering that with only 4 players and removing lines etc, is too drastic IMO. Besides we know that a larger ice surface is proven to give us better hockey. The 200x100 ice size is used in Europe and for international hockey, its not as drastic as some might think.
And what the hell is stoping them from implementing automatic icing? Where are the negatives? You miss out on those one or two races down the ice which hardly ever result in a scoring chance? Instead you have an immediate stopage so you don't have to watch the guy skate down the ice, follwed by another faceoff within 35 seconds or so. I mean thats where the NHL confuses me. A change that takes nothing to implement yet has nothing but postive results is not implemeted. And again, its already proven to improve the flow of the game. I'm left scratching my head.
#309
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Originally posted by A4NoMore
I like that idea of 200x100. What do you think about removing the red line?
I like that idea of 200x100. What do you think about removing the red line?
How about this ... force the teams to rip out seats and make the rinks bigger. Any team that cant afford to do it must fold. Kill 2 birds will one stone
#311
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Originally posted by fdl
Its debatable. It could make things worse as defenceman stop pinching in for fear of breakaway passes.
How about this ... force the teams to rip out seats and make the rinks bigger. Any team that cant afford to do it must fold. Kill 2 birds will one stone
Its debatable. It could make things worse as defenceman stop pinching in for fear of breakaway passes.
How about this ... force the teams to rip out seats and make the rinks bigger. Any team that cant afford to do it must fold. Kill 2 birds will one stone
Teams that should be killed in no particular order.
-Pittsburgh
-Carolina
-Nashville
-Washington
-Tampa Bay
-Anaheim
-San Jose
-Phoenix
-Atlanta
Or any team that continuously loses money.
#312
Originally posted by Soze75
There's been some talk of Pittsburgh moving to Winnipeg. How funny does that sound?
There's been some talk of Pittsburgh moving to Winnipeg. How funny does that sound?
And yes, the trap is killing hockey. I see more teams playing the trap because "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". Trapping may be legal but if NHL doesn't do anything soon, it's gonna be pretty hard telling apart hockey scores from soccer scores.
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I love hockey. I think a 1-0 win for the Red Wings is just as exciting as a 6-5 shoot-out. I do however think there is always room for improvement. I'd like to see the international size rink adapted. I think the goalies equipment is way too big. Removing the red line would work too but if you expand the ice surface the red line bocomes less of an issue. If the referees would just follow the rule book the game would be perfect.
What a fan she is...
What a fan she is...
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well said domn. The Canucks won't win a thing until all Van fans all shout in unison "The Leafs are better and Toronto is the center of the universe!!" Then, just maybe, instead of hitting the post in the dying minutes of a Stanley Cup game 7, the puck will go in and then we'll proceed to lose in overtime
A point I'd like to make to all Leaf fans. You all say we'll be nothing until we win the Cup. Since our birth into the NHL, who has been the better team? Your Stanley came before our existence so it doesn't count. You won it when we were busy cutting down forests and thus had no time for hockey.
Here's to a Leaf/Canuck final so we can settle this thing
well said domn. The Canucks won't win a thing until all Van fans all shout in unison "The Leafs are better and Toronto is the center of the universe!!" Then, just maybe, instead of hitting the post in the dying minutes of a Stanley Cup game 7, the puck will go in and then we'll proceed to lose in overtime
A point I'd like to make to all Leaf fans. You all say we'll be nothing until we win the Cup. Since our birth into the NHL, who has been the better team? Your Stanley came before our existence so it doesn't count. You won it when we were busy cutting down forests and thus had no time for hockey.
Here's to a Leaf/Canuck final so we can settle this thing
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