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Old 02-19-2009 | 09:32 AM
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Fantasy Baseball: 2009 AZ MLB League

Looking to see if there's enough interest to do a pay league. So far Joe5.0 and myself are in. The league will be Head to Head and we'll try to get at least 10 teams. Buy in will be $20 or $25 (US) depending on what everyone's OK with. Add your name if you want to play. Once you confirm you want to play, I'll send you the league info.


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Old 02-19-2009 | 09:42 AM
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Here's the scoring:

Batting:
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K, AVG,

Pitching:
IP, W, CG, SV, ER, K, ERA, WHIP
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:47 AM
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I'm def in with either $25 or $20.
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:51 AM
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oh, and i set the draft for Sunday, March 29 @ 5:00 pm for now, but we can change it if guys are busy then
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:52 AM
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That's a lot of stat categories. Would there be no cap on starts?
Old 02-19-2009 | 09:59 AM
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That's a lot of stat categories. Would there be no cap on starts?
no cap on starts, but the minimum innings pitched is at 10. 10 innings is nothing though. if you don't adjust your roster, you should still reach 10 innings pitched for the week.

we could always change the stat categories around if guys want
Old 02-19-2009 | 03:32 PM
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Looks like we have 4 now. Lets get at least 10 teams, 12 would be better.


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Old 02-19-2009 | 05:10 PM
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i'll play/pay, but you have way too many stat categories, they are redundant...and why have a min. IP if it's only 10? like you said, you can get that without trying.
Old 02-19-2009 | 05:18 PM
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SG, I kind of agree.

If anything a maximum IP might be better, to prevent people from just stacking SP's to get K's and W's.
Old 02-19-2009 | 06:26 PM
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ya changing it is fine with me. just post what you guys want to change/ remove.

what do you want to do about the innings pitched? remove the minimum?, raise it?, change it to max innings?
Old 02-19-2009 | 06:27 PM
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i don't think you can do max. IP as a stat category (can you?) and anyway by stacking SPs, you would probably end up losing SVs and most hitting cat's...i vote min. IP be raised to at least 30

...but why have K's on both sides?

...why have both ER and ERA?

...why have both Hits and AVG?

...why have both IP and min. IP?


^those are redundant stats


...and why have CG???
Old 02-19-2009 | 06:29 PM
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i'd like to see a traditional 5x5 scoring setup...

Batting:
R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

Pitching:
W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Old 02-19-2009 | 08:15 PM
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See, I kinda like the CG stat, most times it prob will be a tie, but it gives a nice bonus for a great game by a SP.

You'd have to add a hitting stat to make it even, and I'd like Hits probably.

Having 12 stat categories I like better than 10 because it makes it easier to have a great week, and plus makes it a little more intersting, imo.

I had multiple pitchers last yr have CG's and I got nothing for it.
Old 02-20-2009 | 09:36 AM
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i checked and you can't put in a max innings pitched.
i'd also agree we should raise the minimum innings pitched 30.

Here's my vote for stats:

Batting:
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

Pitching:
W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

Let's get more players and have everyone vote b4 we make the changes
Old 02-20-2009 | 09:49 AM
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I'm interested.
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SG81
i checked and you can't put in a max innings pitched.
i'd also agree we should raise the minimum innings pitched 30.

Here's my vote for stats:

Batting:
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

Pitching:
W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

Let's get more players and have everyone vote b4 we make the changes

Agreed.
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SG81
i checked and you can't put in a max innings pitched.
i'd also agree we should raise the minimum innings pitched 30.

Here's my vote for stats:

Batting:
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

Pitching:
W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

Let's get more players and have everyone vote b4 we make the changes
sounds good SG, count me in
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:56 AM
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sounds good SG, count me in
PM'ed you the info
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroPSI
I'm interested.
does that mean you're in or you're thinking about it?
Let me know and if you're in, i'll PM you the info
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:04 AM
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Is everyone cool with $25 as the buy in?
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SG81
i checked and you can't put in a max innings pitched.
i'd also agree we should raise the minimum innings pitched 30.

Here's my vote for stats:

Batting:
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

Pitching:
W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

Let's get more players and have everyone vote b4 we make the changes
Can we do 5x5 or 6x6 with CG as a "bonus" stat category instead of including it as one of the 5 or 6? Otherwise, it's going to result in a lot of ties, or even weeks, because there will be very few Complete Games, especially nowadays with the sensitivity to injuries and pitch counts. I would propose we either take out Hits or add a relevant pitching category. Just a thought.
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SG81
Is everyone cool with $25 as the buy in?
yes
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by paz840
Can we do 5x5 or 6x6 with CG as a "bonus" stat category instead of including it as one of the 5 or 6? Otherwise, it's going to result in a lot of ties, or even weeks, because there will be very few Complete Games, especially nowadays with the sensitivity to injuries and pitch counts. I would propose we either take out Hits or add a relevant pitching category. Just a thought.
i think we should keep hits. what pitching stat would you want to add? IP? or do you want to remove CG and just have it 6x5?
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:23 AM
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i think we should keep hits. what pitching stat would you want to add? IP? or do you want to remove CG and just have it 6x5?
I'm not gonna be in the league, but from past experience, CG is a terrible category.
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:30 AM
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i copied the positions from last year's league but think it might be too many bench:

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL

what do you think?
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:32 AM
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5x5 is the best scoring system IMO

the Hits category tracks the same thing as AVG...the more hits you get, the higher your average goes, and vice versa...it is redundant to keep both stats.

...but if you really want to keep Hits, add IP, just don't make it unbalanced (i.e. 5x6)
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:40 AM
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i dunno. i don't think hits is the same as AVG. say a guy has 1 AB and gets a hit, his AVG is a perfect 1.000. while another guy has 5 AB's and gets 3 hits. his AVG is lower, but he has more hits
Old 02-20-2009 | 11:49 AM
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H and AVG are similar in the same way that ER and ERA are similar, the difference is the denominator, At Bats and 9Innings, respectively.

If your team had only a few AB's in a week, your argument would make sense, but since they have a few hundred, it doesn't.
Old 02-20-2009 | 12:04 PM
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not in this league either, but I think 5x5 is the best imo

personally don't like categories where certain players have no chance. Like relievers have no chance at CG.

then again.. i'm contradicting myself with the saves cat.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 02:36 PM
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If you look at most fantasy baseball leagues (espn, cbs-sportsline, etc) their standard 5x5 scoring system for roto and head-to-head doesn't even let you include Hits...even if you go to 6x6, they normally only add OBP to hitting and Holds to pitching. Look it up. Hits are a useless stat in fantasy baseball.
Old 02-23-2009 | 09:53 AM
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i don't care that much so we'll just make it the standard yahoo default scoring:

R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG

W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Old 02-23-2009 | 10:08 AM
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I'm fine with it also.

Cmon we need more people!

And if you've never done fantasy anything dot be scared. I did it for the 1st time last year and ended up taking 2nd place.
Old 02-23-2009 | 11:58 AM
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Just PM'ed this to ZeroPSI b/c he was asking for the final league settings ect... thought i should post it here incase others were wondering:

Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Mar 29 5:00pm EDT
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: August 16, 2009
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: League Votes
Min Innings Pitched: 30
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Playoffs: Week 23, 24 and 25 (6 teams)
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
Stat Categories: R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Old 03-16-2009 | 10:54 PM
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I really want to do this (love playing in these leagues with you guys). I think I leave for vacation that day, though. Maybe I can sign up if by chance you guys change the draft date or my trip gets pushed back?
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I'd be willing to play, as well...
Old 03-18-2009 | 11:12 AM
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I really want to do this (love playing in these leagues with you guys). I think I leave for vacation that day, though. Maybe I can sign up if by chance you guys change the draft date or my trip gets pushed back?
PM'ed you the info
Old 03-18-2009 | 11:18 AM
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I'd be willing to play, as well...
you have PM too
Old 03-18-2009 | 04:10 PM
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I'll sign up tonite when I get home.
Old 03-20-2009 | 01:51 PM
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so we have 7 guys. we need 3 more minimum. anyone else?
Old 03-21-2009 | 11:19 AM
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I'm in. PM me the info.


I just might have to auto-draft since I have another draft almost at the same time.



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