2005 World Series of Poker
07-07-2005, 05:54 PM
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2005 World Series of Poker
America grabs a chair at poker's biggest table
By David Leon Moore, USA TODAY
LAS VEGAS — It is after 2 a.m. Tuesday in the giant poker room at the Rio hotel and casino. Two tired players are left at the final table of a big-money event, nerves fraying, the tension thickening, the crowd growing. Then 25-year-old Israeli card shark Rafi Amit, closing in on the kill, utters a crude expletive and all hell breaks loose.
Former World Series of Poker champion Doyle Brunson sits at the table in Las Vegas. Nicknamed "Texas Dolly," he won back-to-back World Series titles in 1976 and 1977.
By Joe Cavaretta, AP
At the World Series of Poker, the world's biggest and most prestigious poker tournament, the penalty for that obscenity is 10 minutes away from the table, and tournament official Jack Effel immediately tells Amit to leave. (Related graphic: Learn how to play)
The dealing continues, though, and for 10 minutes alternating blocks of $8,000 and $16,000 in chips are raked from Amit's stack and given to his opponent, 38-year-old Vietnamese-born pro Vinny Vinh. An infuriated Amit and his posse mock Vinh and Effel. One of Amit's supporters makes a comment about meeting Vinh in the parking lot. The anger grows, and Effel calls security to bounce two of the spectators. Then he turns to Amit.
"You want another 10 minutes?" he threatens.
Amit finally calms down, the penalty clock winds down and play resumes after nearly $200,000 in chips has switched owners, keeping Vinh's chances alive.
Eventually, at 3:21 a.m., Amit cleans out Vinh with a full house to win the $511,835 first prize, but only after another hour of trash talk between him and Vinh.
When it's over, Amit and Vinh shake hands. Vinh might have wanted to throw a punch. Ten years ago, he might have. A hundred years ago, they might have met on a dusty Old West street with six-guns on their hips.
But this is 2005; poker is different and the World Series of Poker is way different than it used to be. Cameras are running. Reporters are taking notes. Blogs are awaiting updates. Web sites are refreshing. Books and DVDs, T-shirts and hats, cards and chips and assorted accessories are waiting to be sold.
And Amit is the latest poker celebrity, joining a fast-growing club born largely from the World Series and ESPN's ubiquitous coverage of it.
In other words, if there's big poker action, America's all in. And, get this, looking up to the stars of the poker world.
All of which brings a chuckle to 71-year-old poker legend Doyle Brunson. Nicknamed "Texas Dolly," he won back-to-back World Series titles in 1976 and 1977, and is still winning tournaments. "It used to be we were gettin' cheated, gettin' arrested, gettin' robbed," Brunson says. "Now we're TV stars."
'Cooler than being a rock star'
Brunson and his fellow pros, along with serious celebrity players and anonymous would-be stars with dollar signs in their eyes, have come here for the World Series of Poker's main event. A $10,000 entry fee puts them in a No-limit Texas Hold'em marathon that begins today at the Rio and ends July 16.
This tournament will eclipse all records for prize money and participation. It is the biggest, richest tournament in poker history.
Here's how poker's biggest six weeks works: There are 45 events in the World Series of Poker, starting June 2, all played at the Rio in a cavernous 60,000-square-foot exhibit hall filled with 200 tables. Each event is independent, with various types of poker games, entry fees and prize money.
Most of the top pros, along with a smattering of celebs, play in a number of these events; Los Angeles Lakers owner Jerry Buss and actor James Woods were among the participants earlier this week.
The whole thing is notched up a level for the main event. Think of it as the Super Bowl of the World Series. Just about anybody who's anybody in poker will take a seat. The total number of players probably will be about 6,000, more than double what was a record number last year.
The prize money comes entirely from entry fees, also known as buy-ins, so 6,000 players would result in a $60 million prize pool with the winner getting $7.5 million. Each of the nine finalists would receive at least $1 million, which was the first prize as recently as 1999.
Total prize money for the entire 45-event World Series of Poker this year is expected to hit $100 million, more than double last year's record $45 million. ESPN will begin taped telecasts of the World Series on July 19, airing Tuesdays.
Some of the main event's favorites, made famous among poker aficionados from their appearances on TV, are Howard "The Professor" Lederer, Phil Gordon, Chris "Jesus" Ferguson, Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Barry Greenstein and, of course, Brunson.
Confirmed celebrity entrants include actors Woods, Tobey Maguire and Brad Garrett (the big guy on Everybody Loves Raymond), former NFL star Shannon Sharpe, magician Penn Gillette and actresses Mimi Rogers and Jennifer Tilly.
Tilly won first place and $158,625 in prize money June 27 by wiping out 600 competitors in the World Series' Ladies World Poker Championship. "Better than winning an Oscar," said Tilly, whose poker-pro boyfriend, Phil "The Unabomber" Laak, also will be in the main event.
Tournament director Ken Lambert is in charge of putting it all together, and what puzzles him most is "where all these people keep coming from, every day, every event. How can there be so many?"
Because from colleges to cow towns, from suburbs to Caesars Palace, poker is in.
Jennifer Harman, a pioneering woman high-stakes poker star, used to bluff when people asked her what she did for a living.
"I told them I wrote songs for famous musical groups," she says. "Now I tell them I'm a poker player, and that's like the coolest thing, cooler than being a rock star."
Now poker is on TV, on the Internet, in retail stores. Newspapers are taking notice, and some are treating it as a sport. Veteran Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Rosenbloom is scouring through the tables at the Rio this week, taking notes on gutsy calls and tough losses. He now writes a weekly poker column that appears in his paper's sports section and has been syndicated to 20 other newspapers.
Live games, even though many aren't very profitable for casinos, are growing wildly.
Yet, for some, the stigma of the game's outlaw past lives on.
"My parents don't like it," says Amit, who grew up in a tightknit family in Israel and began traveling to the USA, and playing cash games, three years ago. "In Israel, if you're a poker player, it's like you're a drug dealer. My family was like, 'You're losing your money, you're losing your mind.'
"But now my dad calls and says, 'How's business?' "
For Amit, and for poker, it's unbelievable.
Harrah's in charge
Harrah's Entertainment, one of the gaming industry's giants, took over the World Series of Poker last year as part of its purchase of Binion's Horseshoe, a landmark casino in Vegas and home of the WSOP since its inception in 1970. This year, all the WSOP events are being held at the Rio, except the last two days of the main event at Binion's, as part of a nod to Las Vegas' 100th anniversary.
Though the house takes only 5% of the action during the WSOP, and 2% of that goes to pay dealers and staff, Harrah's loves its new property because of the crowds it draws and the potential for those fans to gamble in the casino or attend shows.
"This is definitely a moneymaking event," says Ginny Shanks, Harrah's senior vice president of brand management.
Merchandising shows tremendous potential. Such mainstream retailers as Target and Bed Bath & Beyond are carrying World Series of Poker chip sets and tables. The WSOP, of course, has its own onsite and online stores. And a vanity WSOP credit card is available to make those purchases.
"It's getting bigger every day," Shanks says. "It's astonishing."
The higher-profile players are starting to look like race car drivers, with shirts and hats promoting online poker sites (in the WSOP main event, players' logos are subject to a loosely enforced size limit of 1 inch by 3 inches).
In 2003, the World Series of Poker's main event drew 839 players, then a record. When little-known Tennessee accountant Chris Moneymaker (really, his real name), an online poker player who had never played before in a live tournament, won the $2.5 million first prize, officials expected an explosion of newbies the next year.
"I guess people thought if I can do it, anybody can do it," says Moneymaker, 29, who quit his job nine months after his World Series payday and now makes public appearances and has started two poker-related businesses.
Indeed, newcomers flocked to the World Series last year, when a record 2,576 main-event entries resulted in a $5 million first prize for Greg Raymer, another big underdog, a Connecticut patent lawyer who was also primarily an online gambler. Make that former patent lawyer. Raymer, 41, quit his job within a week of his bonanza. Now he travels the poker tournament circuit and gets paid by a Web site, PokerStars.com, more than he made in a business suit.
Gordon was a software engineer from Georgia Tech who, with three partners, started a technology company that they sold for $95 million in 1997 when he was 26. He then backpacked around the world for four years.
Now 35, he's a poker pro and the co-host of Celebrity Poker Challenge on Bravo, where he helps celebs develop their games. He thinks part of the latest appeal of the game is that it's so democratic, so inclusive.
"You're never going to hit a Randy Johnson fastball," he says. "You're never going to catch a pass from Brett Favre. You're never going to hit a golf ball with Tiger Woods. But on any given day, you can come down to the World Series of Poker, put up your money and play with the best players in the world and potentially win."
But knowing the rules, knowing the odds and the math and knowing when Texas Dolly is bluffing are different skills altogether.
"Poker's a day to learn and a lifetime to master," says pro Robert Williamson III, a colorful Texan who, winning or losing, tends to laugh and sing and drink Corona and Tabasco at 2 a.m.
"You can come out here and beat anybody once. Over the course of a day, it's probably 80% luck and 20% skill. Over the course of a year, it's probably 80% skill, 20% luck. Over the course of a lifetime, it's about 99.9% skill."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2005-...d-series_x.htm
By David Leon Moore, USA TODAY
LAS VEGAS — It is after 2 a.m. Tuesday in the giant poker room at the Rio hotel and casino. Two tired players are left at the final table of a big-money event, nerves fraying, the tension thickening, the crowd growing. Then 25-year-old Israeli card shark Rafi Amit, closing in on the kill, utters a crude expletive and all hell breaks loose.
Former World Series of Poker champion Doyle Brunson sits at the table in Las Vegas. Nicknamed "Texas Dolly," he won back-to-back World Series titles in 1976 and 1977.
By Joe Cavaretta, AP
At the World Series of Poker, the world's biggest and most prestigious poker tournament, the penalty for that obscenity is 10 minutes away from the table, and tournament official Jack Effel immediately tells Amit to leave. (Related graphic: Learn how to play)
The dealing continues, though, and for 10 minutes alternating blocks of $8,000 and $16,000 in chips are raked from Amit's stack and given to his opponent, 38-year-old Vietnamese-born pro Vinny Vinh. An infuriated Amit and his posse mock Vinh and Effel. One of Amit's supporters makes a comment about meeting Vinh in the parking lot. The anger grows, and Effel calls security to bounce two of the spectators. Then he turns to Amit.
"You want another 10 minutes?" he threatens.
Amit finally calms down, the penalty clock winds down and play resumes after nearly $200,000 in chips has switched owners, keeping Vinh's chances alive.
Eventually, at 3:21 a.m., Amit cleans out Vinh with a full house to win the $511,835 first prize, but only after another hour of trash talk between him and Vinh.
When it's over, Amit and Vinh shake hands. Vinh might have wanted to throw a punch. Ten years ago, he might have. A hundred years ago, they might have met on a dusty Old West street with six-guns on their hips.
But this is 2005; poker is different and the World Series of Poker is way different than it used to be. Cameras are running. Reporters are taking notes. Blogs are awaiting updates. Web sites are refreshing. Books and DVDs, T-shirts and hats, cards and chips and assorted accessories are waiting to be sold.
And Amit is the latest poker celebrity, joining a fast-growing club born largely from the World Series and ESPN's ubiquitous coverage of it.
In other words, if there's big poker action, America's all in. And, get this, looking up to the stars of the poker world.
All of which brings a chuckle to 71-year-old poker legend Doyle Brunson. Nicknamed "Texas Dolly," he won back-to-back World Series titles in 1976 and 1977, and is still winning tournaments. "It used to be we were gettin' cheated, gettin' arrested, gettin' robbed," Brunson says. "Now we're TV stars."
'Cooler than being a rock star'
Brunson and his fellow pros, along with serious celebrity players and anonymous would-be stars with dollar signs in their eyes, have come here for the World Series of Poker's main event. A $10,000 entry fee puts them in a No-limit Texas Hold'em marathon that begins today at the Rio and ends July 16.
This tournament will eclipse all records for prize money and participation. It is the biggest, richest tournament in poker history.
Here's how poker's biggest six weeks works: There are 45 events in the World Series of Poker, starting June 2, all played at the Rio in a cavernous 60,000-square-foot exhibit hall filled with 200 tables. Each event is independent, with various types of poker games, entry fees and prize money.
Most of the top pros, along with a smattering of celebs, play in a number of these events; Los Angeles Lakers owner Jerry Buss and actor James Woods were among the participants earlier this week.
The whole thing is notched up a level for the main event. Think of it as the Super Bowl of the World Series. Just about anybody who's anybody in poker will take a seat. The total number of players probably will be about 6,000, more than double what was a record number last year.
The prize money comes entirely from entry fees, also known as buy-ins, so 6,000 players would result in a $60 million prize pool with the winner getting $7.5 million. Each of the nine finalists would receive at least $1 million, which was the first prize as recently as 1999.
Total prize money for the entire 45-event World Series of Poker this year is expected to hit $100 million, more than double last year's record $45 million. ESPN will begin taped telecasts of the World Series on July 19, airing Tuesdays.
Some of the main event's favorites, made famous among poker aficionados from their appearances on TV, are Howard "The Professor" Lederer, Phil Gordon, Chris "Jesus" Ferguson, Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Barry Greenstein and, of course, Brunson.
Confirmed celebrity entrants include actors Woods, Tobey Maguire and Brad Garrett (the big guy on Everybody Loves Raymond), former NFL star Shannon Sharpe, magician Penn Gillette and actresses Mimi Rogers and Jennifer Tilly.
Tilly won first place and $158,625 in prize money June 27 by wiping out 600 competitors in the World Series' Ladies World Poker Championship. "Better than winning an Oscar," said Tilly, whose poker-pro boyfriend, Phil "The Unabomber" Laak, also will be in the main event.
Tournament director Ken Lambert is in charge of putting it all together, and what puzzles him most is "where all these people keep coming from, every day, every event. How can there be so many?"
Because from colleges to cow towns, from suburbs to Caesars Palace, poker is in.
Jennifer Harman, a pioneering woman high-stakes poker star, used to bluff when people asked her what she did for a living.
"I told them I wrote songs for famous musical groups," she says. "Now I tell them I'm a poker player, and that's like the coolest thing, cooler than being a rock star."
Now poker is on TV, on the Internet, in retail stores. Newspapers are taking notice, and some are treating it as a sport. Veteran Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Rosenbloom is scouring through the tables at the Rio this week, taking notes on gutsy calls and tough losses. He now writes a weekly poker column that appears in his paper's sports section and has been syndicated to 20 other newspapers.
Live games, even though many aren't very profitable for casinos, are growing wildly.
Yet, for some, the stigma of the game's outlaw past lives on.
"My parents don't like it," says Amit, who grew up in a tightknit family in Israel and began traveling to the USA, and playing cash games, three years ago. "In Israel, if you're a poker player, it's like you're a drug dealer. My family was like, 'You're losing your money, you're losing your mind.'
"But now my dad calls and says, 'How's business?' "
For Amit, and for poker, it's unbelievable.
Harrah's in charge
Harrah's Entertainment, one of the gaming industry's giants, took over the World Series of Poker last year as part of its purchase of Binion's Horseshoe, a landmark casino in Vegas and home of the WSOP since its inception in 1970. This year, all the WSOP events are being held at the Rio, except the last two days of the main event at Binion's, as part of a nod to Las Vegas' 100th anniversary.
Though the house takes only 5% of the action during the WSOP, and 2% of that goes to pay dealers and staff, Harrah's loves its new property because of the crowds it draws and the potential for those fans to gamble in the casino or attend shows.
"This is definitely a moneymaking event," says Ginny Shanks, Harrah's senior vice president of brand management.
Merchandising shows tremendous potential. Such mainstream retailers as Target and Bed Bath & Beyond are carrying World Series of Poker chip sets and tables. The WSOP, of course, has its own onsite and online stores. And a vanity WSOP credit card is available to make those purchases.
"It's getting bigger every day," Shanks says. "It's astonishing."
The higher-profile players are starting to look like race car drivers, with shirts and hats promoting online poker sites (in the WSOP main event, players' logos are subject to a loosely enforced size limit of 1 inch by 3 inches).
In 2003, the World Series of Poker's main event drew 839 players, then a record. When little-known Tennessee accountant Chris Moneymaker (really, his real name), an online poker player who had never played before in a live tournament, won the $2.5 million first prize, officials expected an explosion of newbies the next year.
"I guess people thought if I can do it, anybody can do it," says Moneymaker, 29, who quit his job nine months after his World Series payday and now makes public appearances and has started two poker-related businesses.
Indeed, newcomers flocked to the World Series last year, when a record 2,576 main-event entries resulted in a $5 million first prize for Greg Raymer, another big underdog, a Connecticut patent lawyer who was also primarily an online gambler. Make that former patent lawyer. Raymer, 41, quit his job within a week of his bonanza. Now he travels the poker tournament circuit and gets paid by a Web site, PokerStars.com, more than he made in a business suit.
Gordon was a software engineer from Georgia Tech who, with three partners, started a technology company that they sold for $95 million in 1997 when he was 26. He then backpacked around the world for four years.
Now 35, he's a poker pro and the co-host of Celebrity Poker Challenge on Bravo, where he helps celebs develop their games. He thinks part of the latest appeal of the game is that it's so democratic, so inclusive.
"You're never going to hit a Randy Johnson fastball," he says. "You're never going to catch a pass from Brett Favre. You're never going to hit a golf ball with Tiger Woods. But on any given day, you can come down to the World Series of Poker, put up your money and play with the best players in the world and potentially win."
But knowing the rules, knowing the odds and the math and knowing when Texas Dolly is bluffing are different skills altogether.
"Poker's a day to learn and a lifetime to master," says pro Robert Williamson III, a colorful Texan who, winning or losing, tends to laugh and sing and drink Corona and Tabasco at 2 a.m.
"You can come out here and beat anybody once. Over the course of a day, it's probably 80% luck and 20% skill. Over the course of a year, it's probably 80% skill, 20% luck. Over the course of a lifetime, it's about 99.9% skill."
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2005-...d-series_x.htm
07-07-2005, 06:06 PM
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A friend of mine got 9 people to sponsor him and "split" the winnings - needless to say, I took a pass. Would be fun to play at least once, just for shits and giggles.
Last two years, the main event has been won by an ameteur - my money is on a pro coming through this year - someone like Daniel Negreanu or Gus Hansen.
Last two years, the main event has been won by an ameteur - my money is on a pro coming through this year - someone like Daniel Negreanu or Gus Hansen.
07-07-2005, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cmark
can't wait till it's broadcasted.
btw, i hate trash talkin poker players
btw, i hate trash talkin poker players
Yah - but it's no fun watching a table full of sunglass wearing savants...I actually find guys like Phil Helmuth and Mike 'the mouth' mildly entertaining.
Of course, I'd much prefer to watch Evelyn Ng...
07-07-2005, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PistonFan
Yah - but it's no fun watching a table full of sunglass wearing savants...I actually find guys like Phil Helmuth and Mike 'the mouth' mildly entertaining.
Of course, I'd much prefer to watch Evelyn Ng...
Of course, I'd much prefer to watch Evelyn Ng...
Mike the Mouth.....oh yeah, it was great when he talked trash to Lizard Man (who eventually won the bracelet) and then they showed Mouth crying when he got knocked out.
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07-07-2005, 08:30 PM
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an amateur should win it... with a field of over 2500 (assuming it is this year also) it is going to take skill to win but it will also rely a lot on luck to surpass all those players..honestly i dont' think with a field that big it depends on how good you are...sure the pros will make it significantly farther than amateurs but i doubt a pro will win
07-07-2005, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
an amateur should win it... with a field of over 2500 (assuming it is this year also) it is going to take skill to win but it will also rely a lot on luck to surpass all those players..honestly i dont' think with a field that big it depends on how good you are...sure the pros will make it significantly farther than amateurs but i doubt a pro will win
6000 entrants in the main event.
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an amateur should win it... with a field of over 2500 (assuming it is this year also) it is going to take skill to win but it will also rely a lot on luck to surpass all those players..honestly i dont' think with a field that big it depends on how good you are...sure the pros will make it significantly farther than amateurs but i doubt a pro will win
07-13-2005, 02:33 PM
#17
Safety Car
Only 58 players remaining. Fosil man dropped big time. Ivey can still take it.
Player From Chip count
Tim Phan Westminster $3,244,000
Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $2,561,000
Farzad Bonyadi Los Angeles, CA $2,402,000
Steve Danaman Severn, MD $2,143,000
Phil Ivey $2,027,000
Tex Barch McKinney, TX $2,025,000
Tiffany Williamson London, UK $1,992,000
Johnny Howard Lexington Park, MD $1,806,000
Scott Lazar Studio City, CA $1,629,000
Tuan Vu Las Vegas, NV $1,571,000
Gregory Rice Birmingham $1,414,000
Raymi Sanchesz Thorn Stockholm, Sweden $1,288,000
Lee Watkinson $1,221,000
Tom Sartori Buffalo, NY $1,208,000
Daniel Bergsdorf Umea $1,144,000
Brad Koundracki Kingston, PA $1,136,000
Minh Ly Las Vegas, NV $1,102,000
Terry Burt Mesa, AZ $1,080,000
Steve Marx Bellevue, WA $1,042,000
Per Hildebrand Stockholm, Sweden $1,017,000
Michael Kessler Spotsylvania, VA $986,000
Shahram $983,000
Patrick Hayden Ribs $972,000
Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf Los Angeles, CA $968,000
John Juanda Marina Del Rey, CA $841,000
Joseph Hachem Melbourne $814,000
Nick Givson Windsor, UK $811,000
John McGrane London, UK $780,880
Aaron Kanter Lodi $778,000
Ayhan Alsancak Gothenburg $775,000
Greg "Fossil Man" Raymer Stonington, CT $766,000
Radu Butan London, ON $762,000
Bing Wang Jersey City $739,000
Oskar Silow Gotenborg, Sweden $720,000
Adam Friedman Gahanna, OH $719,000
James Butt Buckley, WA $716,000
Russell "The Muscle" Salzer $710,000
Bryant King Liberty, UK $702,000
Frankling Caldwell Lexington, KY $690,000
Yakov Hirsch Brooklyn, NY $658,000
Joe Connor Atlanta, GA $641,000
Mark Forrester Preston, UK $628,000
Karlo Lopez Puerto Rico $607,000
Joe Stillman Staten Island, NY $584,000
Kevin Kaikko Princeton, NJ $571,000
Tony Abesamis West Covina, CA $513,000
Kenna James Los Angeles, CA $510,000
Hung La MB, CA $505,000
David Richardson Englewood, CO $501,000
Roland Israelashvici New York $469,000
Francis W O'Brien Tunica Resorts, MS $423,000
Bernard Lee Wayland, MA $379,000
Andrew Black Dublin $371,000
Conor Tate Bury M/Cr $368,000
Derek Dix Chico, CA $202,000
Rod Pardey Jr. Las Vegas, NV $187,000
Larry Prugh Macomb, MI $166,000
Jarl Lindholt Aarhus, Denmark $101,000
Player From Chip count
Tim Phan Westminster $3,244,000
Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $2,561,000
Farzad Bonyadi Los Angeles, CA $2,402,000
Steve Danaman Severn, MD $2,143,000
Phil Ivey $2,027,000
Tex Barch McKinney, TX $2,025,000
Tiffany Williamson London, UK $1,992,000
Johnny Howard Lexington Park, MD $1,806,000
Scott Lazar Studio City, CA $1,629,000
Tuan Vu Las Vegas, NV $1,571,000
Gregory Rice Birmingham $1,414,000
Raymi Sanchesz Thorn Stockholm, Sweden $1,288,000
Lee Watkinson $1,221,000
Tom Sartori Buffalo, NY $1,208,000
Daniel Bergsdorf Umea $1,144,000
Brad Koundracki Kingston, PA $1,136,000
Minh Ly Las Vegas, NV $1,102,000
Terry Burt Mesa, AZ $1,080,000
Steve Marx Bellevue, WA $1,042,000
Per Hildebrand Stockholm, Sweden $1,017,000
Michael Kessler Spotsylvania, VA $986,000
Shahram $983,000
Patrick Hayden Ribs $972,000
Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf Los Angeles, CA $968,000
John Juanda Marina Del Rey, CA $841,000
Joseph Hachem Melbourne $814,000
Nick Givson Windsor, UK $811,000
John McGrane London, UK $780,880
Aaron Kanter Lodi $778,000
Ayhan Alsancak Gothenburg $775,000
Greg "Fossil Man" Raymer Stonington, CT $766,000
Radu Butan London, ON $762,000
Bing Wang Jersey City $739,000
Oskar Silow Gotenborg, Sweden $720,000
Adam Friedman Gahanna, OH $719,000
James Butt Buckley, WA $716,000
Russell "The Muscle" Salzer $710,000
Bryant King Liberty, UK $702,000
Frankling Caldwell Lexington, KY $690,000
Yakov Hirsch Brooklyn, NY $658,000
Joe Connor Atlanta, GA $641,000
Mark Forrester Preston, UK $628,000
Karlo Lopez Puerto Rico $607,000
Joe Stillman Staten Island, NY $584,000
Kevin Kaikko Princeton, NJ $571,000
Tony Abesamis West Covina, CA $513,000
Kenna James Los Angeles, CA $510,000
Hung La MB, CA $505,000
David Richardson Englewood, CO $501,000
Roland Israelashvici New York $469,000
Francis W O'Brien Tunica Resorts, MS $423,000
Bernard Lee Wayland, MA $379,000
Andrew Black Dublin $371,000
Conor Tate Bury M/Cr $368,000
Derek Dix Chico, CA $202,000
Rod Pardey Jr. Las Vegas, NV $187,000
Larry Prugh Macomb, MI $166,000
Jarl Lindholt Aarhus, Denmark $101,000
07-14-2005, 07:27 AM
#21
Drifting
Originally Posted by cmark
oh gawd i hope Mike the Mouth doesn't win
I know, he's such an arrogant asshole. very helmuth like but even more annoying, if thats possible.
07-14-2005, 09:26 AM
#22
Safety Car
Ivey in SECOND place. 27 remaining.
Player From Chip count Seat Seat
Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $5,140,000 117 1
Phil Ivey Las Vegas, NV $4,635,000 118 6
Steven Dannenmann Severn, MD $4,300,000 129 8
Tex Barch McKinney, TX $3,900,000 129 4
Greg "Fossil Man" Raymer Stonington, CT $3,840,000 118 1
Brad Kondracki Kingston, PA $3,160,000 117 9
Joseph Hachem Melbourne $3,125,000 118 7
Scott Lazar Studio City, CA $3,025,000
Michael Kessler Spotsylvania, VA $2,700,000 117 2
Daniel Bergsdorf Umea, SW $2,550,000 129 6
Andrew Black Dublin, Ireland $2,090,000 118 8
Minh Ly Las Vegas, NV $2,050,000 129 9
Aaron Kanter Lodi $1,925,000 117 5
Tuan Vu Las Vegas, NV $1,870,000 129 3
Tim Phan Westminster $1,575,000 118 2
Oskar Silow Göteborg, Sweden $1,440,000 129 7
Bryant King Liberty Lake $1,440,000 129 5
Conor Tate Bury M/cr $1,265,000 117 7
Tiffany Williamsen London, UK $1,125,000 117 8
Joe Connor Atlanta, GA $1,065,000 118 9
Tom Sartorv Buffalo, NY $805,000 117 6
Johnny Howard Lexington Park, MD $730,000 117 4
Bernard Lee Wayland, MA $710,000
Per Hildebrand Stockholm, Sweden $645,000 118 4
John McGrane London, UK $575,000 129 1
Shahram Shublem Las Vegas, NV $310,000 117 3
Ayhan Alsancak Göteborg, Sweden $225,000 118 5
Player From Chip count Seat Seat
Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $5,140,000 117 1
Phil Ivey Las Vegas, NV $4,635,000 118 6
Steven Dannenmann Severn, MD $4,300,000 129 8
Tex Barch McKinney, TX $3,900,000 129 4
Greg "Fossil Man" Raymer Stonington, CT $3,840,000 118 1
Brad Kondracki Kingston, PA $3,160,000 117 9
Joseph Hachem Melbourne $3,125,000 118 7
Scott Lazar Studio City, CA $3,025,000
Michael Kessler Spotsylvania, VA $2,700,000 117 2
Daniel Bergsdorf Umea, SW $2,550,000 129 6
Andrew Black Dublin, Ireland $2,090,000 118 8
Minh Ly Las Vegas, NV $2,050,000 129 9
Aaron Kanter Lodi $1,925,000 117 5
Tuan Vu Las Vegas, NV $1,870,000 129 3
Tim Phan Westminster $1,575,000 118 2
Oskar Silow Göteborg, Sweden $1,440,000 129 7
Bryant King Liberty Lake $1,440,000 129 5
Conor Tate Bury M/cr $1,265,000 117 7
Tiffany Williamsen London, UK $1,125,000 117 8
Joe Connor Atlanta, GA $1,065,000 118 9
Tom Sartorv Buffalo, NY $805,000 117 6
Johnny Howard Lexington Park, MD $730,000 117 4
Bernard Lee Wayland, MA $710,000
Per Hildebrand Stockholm, Sweden $645,000 118 4
John McGrane London, UK $575,000 129 1
Shahram Shublem Las Vegas, NV $310,000 117 3
Ayhan Alsancak Göteborg, Sweden $225,000 118 5
07-14-2005, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by te3point5
I can't believe Raymer's still in it... Maybe he's not a one hit wonder like Moneymaker in 03.
07-14-2005, 04:27 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by TheTriads
I'm sorry, but I'm sure you have seen the 2003 WSOP. Chris Moneymaker was just getting alot of lucky cards at the final table. He got won so many hands at the river. Moneymaker got bounced out 1st round this year, the dude's not as good as everyone thinks. Raymer is a good player, i'll root for him
Ummmm, yeah, thats what I was saying, Moneymaker was a one hit wonder, won once, and will never win again. I still don't like Raymer as a player though.
07-15-2005, 09:43 AM
#30
Safety Car
Here is the list of 11 - 27 finishers:
Ivey is out, so is raymer.
10 Ayhan Alsancak $600,000 0
11 Shahram "Sean" Sheikhan $600,000 0
12 Conor Tate $600,000 0
13 Bernard Lee $400,000 0
14 Oskar Silow $400,000 0
15 Tiffany Williamson $400,000 0
16 Johnny Howard $350,000 0
17 Michael Kessler $350,000 0
18 John McGrane $350,000 0
19 Minh Ly $304,680 0
20 Phil Ivey $304,680 0
21 Bryant King $304,680 0
22 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu $304,680 0
23 Joe Connor $304,680 0
24 Tim Phan $304,680 0
25 Greg Raymer $304,680 0
26 Tom Sartori $304,680 0
27 Per Hildebrand
Remaining players:
Steven Dannenmann
Tex Barch
Brad Kondracki
Joseph Hachem
Scott Lazar
Daniel Bergsdorf
Andrew Black
Mike Matusow
Aaron Kanter
Ivey is out, so is raymer.
10 Ayhan Alsancak $600,000 0
11 Shahram "Sean" Sheikhan $600,000 0
12 Conor Tate $600,000 0
13 Bernard Lee $400,000 0
14 Oskar Silow $400,000 0
15 Tiffany Williamson $400,000 0
16 Johnny Howard $350,000 0
17 Michael Kessler $350,000 0
18 John McGrane $350,000 0
19 Minh Ly $304,680 0
20 Phil Ivey $304,680 0
21 Bryant King $304,680 0
22 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu $304,680 0
23 Joe Connor $304,680 0
24 Tim Phan $304,680 0
25 Greg Raymer $304,680 0
26 Tom Sartori $304,680 0
27 Per Hildebrand
Remaining players:
Steven Dannenmann
Tex Barch
Brad Kondracki
Joseph Hachem
Scott Lazar
Daniel Bergsdorf
Andrew Black
Mike Matusow
Aaron Kanter
08-09-2005, 06:50 PM
#35
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Can ESPN's coverage of this year's WSOP be any lamer?
Nothing like showing week after week of the same circuit events over, and over and over.....Zzzzzzzz. Teh lame.
Get on with it clowns!
Nothing like showing week after week of the same circuit events over, and over and over.....Zzzzzzzz. Teh lame.
Get on with it clowns!
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