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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Cls '01-263hp-220tq-51k

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The difference between the 2 traces = reconnecting the IMRC and a half turn on the FPR. The IMRC made the biggest difference. I had disconnected it on other's advice, but apparently that was a bad idea!

Note the AFR trace, with the characteristic dip at vtec. The rest of the trace is so close to 12, that I wasn't going to mess with this.

I could probably eek out a few more ponies, but I'm very pleased with these numbers, given that it is low boost and no fiddlin' around.

This is SC/I/H/manifold spacer...
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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nice numbers for low boost pulley. throw an exhaust on you can probly push out to 270.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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nice .. impressive
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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wow, those are some serious gains for just reconnecting the IMRC and pulling some fuel.

I agree with CleanCL, you could get quite a pretty good gain again by adding exhaust.

Did you listen carefully for detonation? Since that's the major reason for disconnecting the IMRC and the slight boost drop when it opens.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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The guys running the dyno were somewhat familiar with SC J32A2s, and they assured me that there was no detonation. I sure didn't hear anything, or at least nothing other than WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

There take was that it was only necessary to disconnect the IMRC when running the HBP and aftercooler, and even then, it was inconclusive. Comptech doesn't say anything about disconnecting it in their instructions, either.

I searched the forum on this subject, and couldn't find anything definitive.

lo boost + 92 octane = no detonation =
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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i want a S/C 2nd gen..

congrats!
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Only 40whp & 20wtq with SC/I/H?

It looks like its tuned well, so thats good. Get some track times to see how much of a difference it actually makes. I just would be a little miffed about that kind of power gain for close to probably $5k.

A similarly priced turbo would make probably 350whp and maintain good driveability.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe5.0
Only 40whp & 20wtq with SC/I/H?

It looks like its tuned well, so thats good. Get some track times to see how much of a difference it actually makes. I just would be a little miffed about that kind of power gain for close to probably $5k.

A similarly priced turbo would make probably 350whp and maintain good driveability.
No more like around 60 whp. The whp for stock is around 195-200.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

sorry, thought it was a 6 speed
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe5.0
Only 40whp & 20wtq with SC/I/H?

It looks like its tuned well, so thats good. Get some track times to see how much of a difference it actually makes. I just would be a little miffed about that kind of power gain for close to probably $5k.

A similarly priced turbo would make probably 350whp and maintain good driveability.

No doubt!

My goal was to have zero impact on drivability or reliability (but still have alittle something "extra"). I won't be racing with my glass transmission, well, OK maybe a little

PS - You're right, the comptech kit is to damned expensive - that's why I went with a used setup. The blowers are well made and don't need service for 80,000 miles. Everything - blower, install, battery, trans cooler = <$2800
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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How were the guys at torque freaks? I have a s/c accord and am installing my emanage soon. The shop I go to knows what they are doing but I heard torque freaks are awesome. Since they have seen a few setups I think I will be going there now. How long were you on the dyno? Also I will have to keep my eye out for you with that sleeper look and all.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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It was my first time ever at a place like this. They were very friendly and seemed very knowledgable. I worked with Matt and Adam. They gave me an extra pull for free, and they let me borrow tools to adjust the FPR. I was there about an hour all together.

Again, I don't have a frame of reference, but I was satisfied that they knew what they were doing.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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hey bryan, nice to see you got that baby dyno. that's some real good numbers with a low boost. sorry i told you to disconnect the IMRC, but i didn't know you were going to run such low boost. by the way, adam is one of my good friend and he knows his stuff. he can take care of pretty must anything that has to do with cl-s.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Not bad. Now get the HBP.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bigguyonbike
sorry i told you to disconnect the IMRC, but i didn't know you were going to run such low boost.
No biggee Dave - it all worked out in the end.

Imagine Adam's surprise when he looked under my hood and recognized your blower!

He dynoed the same blower on 2 different cars! They still had your file - 301whp
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
The guys running the dyno were somewhat familiar with SC J32A2s, and they assured me that there was no detonation. I sure didn't hear anything, or at least nothing other than WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

There take was that it was only necessary to disconnect the IMRC when running the HBP and aftercooler, and even then, it was inconclusive. Comptech doesn't say anything about disconnecting it in their instructions, either.

I searched the forum on this subject, and couldn't find anything definitive.

lo boost + 92 octane = no detonation =
Those are great numbers for low boost pulley. That SC is a great bang for the buck and I'd guess that you'd get a few more out of it with some free-er flowing exhaust, but when you do that, your boost will go down some, so the HBP would be nice.

As for the IMRC, leave it connected, you'll get more out of it. I dyno's mine once without it and only put down 360ish, you could see where the engine stopped making power right at the point the IMRC was to be activated, and that was with a turbo. This intake manifold is designed to use the IMRC to cause a ramming effect within the manifold. Mines on all the time now.

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe5.0
derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

sorry, thought it was a 6 speed
lol i think you think everyone has a 6mt?



the one things that's obvious from this dyno and say Scalberts is that they defintely need to figure away to get anoth 750+ rpms...it's so obvious with the dyno pinned going staright up at fuel cut that not only is there more power there ,but that you still want to turn alittle past peak...get that car to turn 8K and it will be very fast
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
lol i think you think everyone has a 6mt?



the one things that's obvious from this dyno and say Scalberts is that they defintely need to figure away to get anoth 750+ rpms...it's so obvious with the dyno pinned going staright up at fuel cut that not only is there more power there ,but that you still want to turn alittle past peak...get that car to turn 8K and it will be very fast
That would be nice. Would the motor handle cranking up the redline? Can the e-manage U do it?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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That would be nice. Would the motor handle cranking up the redline? Can the e-manage U do it?
can the motor handle it? i think it can handle at least 500 rpms.

and yes, e-manage ultimate can change redline and shift points for the autos
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
Supercharged....

Note the AFR trace, with the characteristic dip at vtec. The rest of the trace is so close to 12, that I wasn't going to mess with this.

I could probably eek out a few more ponies, but I'm very pleased with these numbers, given that it is low boost and no fiddlin' around.

This is SC/I/H/manifold spacer...
Very nice!
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
Everything - blower, install, battery, trans cooler = <$2800


nice...


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