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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 09:53 AM
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Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust
Ummm, what?
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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Ummm, what?
its a reference to the fast and furious movie. was trying to joke at their stage 2 intake
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 11:27 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust
lmfao
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Yvuru
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust
Originally Posted by horseshoez
Ummm, what?
Originally Posted by Yvuru
its a reference to the fast and furious movie. was trying to joke at their stage 2 intake
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lmfao
The main joke of this quote is 3 car using a single exhaust, its pin out people has no idea in car pretend to be cool.
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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So got the TL all back together, it's definitely quite the task doing this all on the ground but it's all together.
now for the fun stuff .

Once we reconnect the battery much to my surprise it wasn't dead, and she turned over didn't sound to shit hot as it definitely was a hard start due to I sitting for a while. The idle seems to be messed up ? yesterday I got it up to operation temp and when I got on to the gas to raise the rpms when it came down to idle it just crapped out . Did this multiple times ,for the life of us we couldn't figure it out, fluids are all good .

So today we bled the brakes and out the tires on getting ready for a test drive and now when I start it up . It starts and the say 10 second after it just dies .
Anyone know whats up ? I'm guessing I missed a sensor or have one backwards . I'm stumped .
Yesterday we ran there the gears all was smooth and clean , also engaged the clutch it's quite graby.
Tomorrow need to jack it all back up and try to troubleshoot things
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Old Feb 14, 2019 | 05:28 PM
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So got the TL all back together, it's definitely quite the task doing this all on the ground but it's all together.
now for the fun stuff .

Once we reconnect the battery much to my surprise it wasn't dead, and she turned over didn't sound to shit hot as it definitely was a hard start due to I sitting for a while. The idle seems to be messed up ? yesterday I got it up to operation temp and when I got on to the gas to raise the rpms when it came down to idle it just crapped out . Did this multiple times ,for the life of us we couldn't figure it out, fluids are all good .

So today we bled the brakes and out the tires on getting ready for a test drive and now when I start it up . It starts and the say 10 second after it just dies .
Anyone know whats up ? I'm guessing I missed a sensor or have one backwards . I'm stumped .
Yesterday we ran there the gears all was smooth and clean , also engaged the clutch it's quite graby.
Tomorrow need to jack it all back up and try to troubleshoot things
can anyone point us in the right direction, is it fuel related
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Old Feb 15, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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I’m currently getting my tune worked on aswell. I’m having a very similar fuel issue.

Hondata did three updates this week. Something is up. Call them.
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Old Feb 15, 2019 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Saving4aTL
I’m currently getting my tune worked on aswell. I’m having a very similar fuel issue.

Hondata did three updates this week. Something is up. Call them.
that's the thing I haven't hooked up the hondata since we did the clutch job .
This whole thing is nuts I mean do a clutch job and not the dam thing won't run .
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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I would like to update everyone and say that my tl s is now running, thanks to my partner ( BRO ) . He did some research as I'm away for the family long weekend. And found out that there in fact is an ecu reset procedure that is actually needed to be done after such work that we did on my car . He followed this ( run engine at 3000rpms for 5 mins and walla problem solved , although Im still in shock that it's running, he send me video to show me and s dam impressive 😀👍

Now a question about the clutch you all will know that we installed a xlr8 stage 2 clutch pkg.with flywheel
As the kit probably only has 1 km on it lol due to the starting issue. My brother has mentioned that it is quite graby, is this normal and or will lesson with the breaken period .

Thanks all
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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you installed a race clutch and then complain of it being grabby. lol


LOL.
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
you installed a race clutch and then complain of it being grabby. lol


LOL.
far from a complaint, mearly a comment as I stated it only got 1 km on it and was asking if this is normal , this is a stage 2 not 3 witch I was told will be quite graby over the stage 2 witch will retain more stock like feel
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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Here we go with the stages again. Sooner or later folks are going to learn the whole "stage" thing is just a bunch if made up crap with no formal meaning to any of it.
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Saving4aTL
I’m currently getting my tune worked on aswell. I’m having a very similar fuel issue.



So, you have your Gerzy Bear TLS finished and it's giving you fuel issues??

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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 06:24 PM
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So, you have your Gerzy Bear TLS finished and it's giving you fuel issues??
:o
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Old Feb 17, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Saving4aTL


:o

Is that Ukraïns'ka for ??
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:42 AM
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Da!

Ill post progress pics soon. Wanted to put a commentary on each pic so the build is somewhat informative.

Didnt mean to hijack your thread Chris.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Jordan
I would like to update everyone and say that my tl s is now running, thanks to my partner ( BRO ) . He did some research as I'm away for the family long weekend. And found out that there in fact is an ecu reset procedure that is actually needed to be done after such work that we did on my car . He followed this ( run engine at 3000rpms for 5 mins and walla problem solved , although Im still in shock that it's running, he send me video to show me and s dam impressive 😀👍

Now a question about the clutch you all will know that we installed a xlr8 stage 2 clutch pkg.with flywheel
As the kit probably only has 1 km on it lol due to the starting issue. My brother has mentioned that it is quite graby, is this normal and or will lesson with the breaken period .

Thanks all
XLR8 "stage 2" is a Kevlar clutch disc, it will have a longer break in period 500 to 1000 miles, it should get better with more driving.
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 09:24 PM
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Why isn’t there a flash pro for an 04 automatic? Or is there and I just haven’t found it yet?
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HOWELLiNC
Why isn’t there a flash pro for an 04 automatic? Or is there and I just haven’t found it yet?
flashpro needs CAN-BUS to talk to ECU.
unfortunately, the early years 04-06 DIDNT use CANBUS!

only the six speed manual versions can be retrofitted with CANBUS by swapping to 07-08 ECU and adding a CANBUS harness!
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
flashpro needs CAN-BUS to talk to ECU.
unfortunately, the early years 04-06 DIDNT use CANBUS!

only the six speed manual versions can be retrofitted with CANBUS by swapping to 07-08 ECU and adding a CANBUS harness!
I thought I read somewhere the 2006 TL 6-Speeds came from the factory with CANBUS. I don't know, maybe I was drunk or something. :p
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 06:07 AM
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I dont know the differences, I dont know what communication protocol the earlier years use...

I know, that I had to swap a 6MT type-s ECU into My 2006 6MT car and I had to add the what they(Hondata) called the canbus wire/harness.

I dont know why it's only the six speed manuals that can perform this retrofit. it's wizardry.

I found an 07 Type-S 6MT ECU at a junkyard for $100.
bought Flashpro for $700 + the harness for $50.

almost a grand to "tune" my car


but, HEY! she flies!!!

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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 06:57 AM
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Maybe that was it, the CANBUS ECU can only be transplanted into the 2006 6MT and not previous years. Not sure though.
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 05:17 PM
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I remember reading that Gerzy (gerzand) was working on something for the ‘04-‘06 auto’s And MT’s....but haven’t seen anything yet, or heard of any progress..
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
I thought I read somewhere the 2006 TL 6-Speeds came from the factory with CANBUS. I don't know, maybe I was drunk or something. :p
Originally Posted by justnspace
I dont know the differences, I dont know what communication protocol the earlier years use...

I know, that I had to swap a 6MT type-s ECU into My 2006 6MT car and I had to add the what they(Hondata) called the canbus wire/harness.

I dont know why it's only the six speed manuals that can perform this retrofit. it's wizardry.

I found an 07 Type-S 6MT ECU at a junkyard for $100.
bought Flashpro for $700 + the harness for $50.

almost a grand to "tune" my car


but, HEY! she flies!!!
All 04-06 TL's have the CANBUS, it's just that CANBUS doesn't extend to the DLC port/OBD2 port whatever you want to call it for 04-06. The 06 ECU is plug and play with the TL-S ECU, doesn't need a conversion harness like the 04-05 ECU on the 6MT. The 04-06 auto trans is different from the 07-08, I want to say it doesn't have the same number of solenoids. I want to say that the 07-08 ECU will not control the 04-06 auto trans correctly since they are not the same transmission.
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd-GERCO
All 04-06 TL's have the CANBUS, it's just that CANBUS doesn't extend to the DLC port/OBD2 port whatever you want to call it for 04-06. The 06 ECU is plug and play with the TL-S ECU, doesn't need a conversion harness like the 04-05 ECU on the 6MT. The 04-06 auto trans is different from the 07-08, I want to say it doesn't have the same number of solenoids. I want to say that the 07-08 ECU will not control the 04-06 auto trans correctly since they are not the same transmission.
Got it, thanks!
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Old Aug 24, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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Hey all long time ,too all the haters... well guess what were on a rotrex build 😋

Here we go gang ,boost equals leaks right lol ,oil that is . Here's a hand full of pics can anyone chime in pls .On were and what . My guess is Cam end seal ?


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OIL PUMP from the bottom picture. But it might just be the power steering pump, from the top picture. Or, it's both, multiple leaks. If you are getting oil deposited at the front passenger side tip of the oil pan then it's the oil pump.

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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 12:23 AM
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OIL PUMP from the bottom picture. But it might just be the power steering pump, from the top picture. Or, it's both, multiple leaks. If you are getting oil deposited at the front passenger side tip of the oil pan then it's the oil pump.
Hmm fair enough but ,as per pics I have leak from top end heading to the bottom
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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Merged your threads because your title was a very confusing run-on sentence. Keep it all updated in one spot
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by champaned_out
ahahaha 500+ that "plus" is hilarious as if the car will hit 500.. not to be mean but you have NO IDEA how many new members with less than 50 posts come to this forum and say "i just bought a TL-S, my goal is (insert a number you wont reach)" and then a few weeks/months go by and you NEVER hear from them again

the ONLY ones ive seen hit big numbers were the members that didnt future claim big projects... the ones that create a new thread, start breaking their build down as well as provide pictures of actual parts being in their possession on the 1st post are the ones you know are serious.. not the ones making an announcement about their newly acquired car followed by, again big claims

either way have fun with the car.. my recommendation, spend money on suspension > performance unless you got DEEP pockets
you can spend $1500-$2000 on suspension and see the world of difference it makes or you can spend $2000 in performance and still get smoked by most modern V6s and turbo 4s nowadays

and if you are really serious about 500+ whp then you need Gerzy Bear's rotrex supercharger which is good for 550whp but again expect to pay around a minimum of $5500 just for the supercharger.. factor in labor plus tuning and you'll be around 7 grand in the hole easy
so when you expect to hit your goals by? 2019?
And boom just like that were back on the road now for about 4 months and all is running smoothly proud to say I'm rocking andys c38-92 rotrex kit with a 100mm and the car hauls fucn ass 😃 boost cut via wastegate set 10psi spring, anyone else familiar with boosting these engines
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 01:55 AM
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I'm glad your happy! 😊 Sounds like a badass ride!
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus



lots more ,just at work can upload a bit later if you like
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^ Of course, love to see the finish project. Should have started a progressive thread as suggested.
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 06:46 AM
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sure nps

I have a stock see above with stage 2 intake and a tein coil over kit .

I want to tune my car and better understand the tuner I bought.

My goals are to build this car to 500+ whp

If you want big gains get the gerzy bear rotrex charger. Look up gerzy bear on Facebook. This will get you where you wanna be. Lol never mind just seen your already running it. Great work.
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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If you want big gains get the gerzy bear rotrex charger. Look up gerzy bear on Facebook. This will get you where you wanna be. Lol never mind just seen your already running it. Great work.
Wow first positive response lol

Thanks buddy 👍

Anyone live in the vancouver area
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 04:09 PM
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Looks good OP, definitely more pics when you get the chance.

You have to forgive the skepticism from everyone, spend enough time on any car forum and you'll find the "OP promises/OP delivering" ratio to be quite horrible :^)
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