ACURA drops to 11th place on C.R. Reliability List
10-27-2017 | 12:50 PM
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If you don’t mean literally bulletproof, I don’t understand the difference in your meaning between reliable and bulletproof.
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10-27-2017 | 08:09 PM
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10-27-2017 | 08:13 PM
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10-29-2017 | 10:55 AM
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We have a 2015 Kia Optima and just had the rear main seal replaced under warranty because of a bad leak. I see roughly a hundred Hondas get serviced every weekend and can't recall ever seeing a Honda that was only a few years old get the rear main replaced. I'm not trying to say Kia doesn't deserve its number 3 spot (our case is probably a total anomaly), but some food for thought.
10-30-2017 | 09:50 AM
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We have a 2015 Kia Optima and just had the rear main seal replaced under warranty because of a bad leak. I see roughly a hundred Hondas get serviced every weekend and can't recall ever seeing a Honda that was only a few years old get the rear main replaced. I'm not trying to say Kia doesn't deserve its number 3 spot (our case is probably a total anomaly), but some food for thought.
I mean we owned a C6 Audi A6 which were known for some issues in the early years (2004-2006 models... ours was a 2006) and ours was more or less perfect. During our ownership, it went in for one issue with the airbag sensor which was resolved no problem and that was it. It actually was in the shop way less than my TL-S was.
10-30-2017 | 10:51 AM
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do consumers even read these surveys?
our our Taco forum, we can see the horrible 3rd gen problems. This survey says third gen is most unreliable.
But dealers can't even keep them in stock, and sales numbers bore that out
our our Taco forum, we can see the horrible 3rd gen problems. This survey says third gen is most unreliable.
But dealers can't even keep them in stock, and sales numbers bore that out
10-30-2017 | 03:09 PM
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10-30-2017 | 03:48 PM
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10-30-2017 | 04:59 PM
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All methods of measuring data have their limitations. Some limitations are a result of the method of collecting data -- what questions are asked, for instance. It's up to the compilers to understand and list the limitations, and up to the consumers to read and understand them.
I am perfectly fine with entertainment system errors being lumped with engine failures resulting in tows. I don't want to take my car to the dealer for any reason outside of normal maintenance. I don't want a poorly designed car, I don't want a poorly executed design, and I don't want a poorly built car. Therefore I find the data sets to be useful. If someone were to apply weights it'd smack to me of artificial, subjective tampering with objective data to change the conclusion.
I am perfectly fine with entertainment system errors being lumped with engine failures resulting in tows. I don't want to take my car to the dealer for any reason outside of normal maintenance. I don't want a poorly designed car, I don't want a poorly executed design, and I don't want a poorly built car. Therefore I find the data sets to be useful. If someone were to apply weights it'd smack to me of artificial, subjective tampering with objective data to change the conclusion.
Obviously I can see where a car with 50% infotainment problem is going to be preferable to a consumer than a car with 50% engine mechanical problem...which is where something like "consumer reports" should help with as each reliability issue can have vastly different outcomes. Even if both go into dealer, the bigger issue may be bigger headache.
But also keep the pure all data set too. Some people want nothing to be weighted either.
10-30-2017 | 05:05 PM
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thats the land cruiser prado (narrow body)
its sold in the usa USA as the lexus GX only
the real land cruiser sold here (200 series), should be getting an all new version in the 300 aeries as it’s been around since 2008
10-31-2017 | 11:15 AM
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You guys see this Audi Post?
this is a 2010 Audi A4 Avant that is in like-new COSMETIC condition. It was purchased over my wife’s strong objection, as none of our four prior Audis has made it past 80,000 miles without suffering a complete and total meltdown. This one suffered an oil consumption meltdown at 65,000 and required a new set of pistons and rings – paid for by Audi! It now has 99,378 miles on it and a Blue Book trade value of $6,000.
The other day the check engine light came on. I correctly internet diagnosed a loose bypass valve on the turbocharger and was ready to write a $2,200 check to replace it. Not so fast said the Audi man! To get the light off it requires (1) a new turbo, (2) a new PCV valve, (3) a new cooling fan, (4) and some other new item at the back of the engine. On top of the typical A4 oil consumption and turbo failure issues, the Audi man says it has the third typical A4 issue – carbon valve build-up, which causes it to chug and spew vast amounts of smoke on startup periodically. Finally, it needs all new front end bushings. This is set to cost a grand total of about $6,000.
Piston Slap: Escaping the Four Rings of Hell?
The other day the check engine light came on. I correctly internet diagnosed a loose bypass valve on the turbocharger and was ready to write a $2,200 check to replace it. Not so fast said the Audi man! To get the light off it requires (1) a new turbo, (2) a new PCV valve, (3) a new cooling fan, (4) and some other new item at the back of the engine. On top of the typical A4 oil consumption and turbo failure issues, the Audi man says it has the third typical A4 issue – carbon valve build-up, which causes it to chug and spew vast amounts of smoke on startup periodically. Finally, it needs all new front end bushings. This is set to cost a grand total of about $6,000.
Piston Slap: Escaping the Four Rings of Hell?
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