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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:15 PM
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I am sure TLX is faster, quieter, fuel efficient and will pull more gs with right size and summer tires. That bmw 3 series is piece of crap. you can see this in used car lots pricing.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
That bmw 3 series is piece of crap. you can see this in used car lots pricing.
TLX must be bigger crap when they have to heavily discount ($8K-$10K) a new car to get sales.

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I got this quote from a dealer a couple weeks back:

2017 Acura TLX V6 w/Technology Package (A9) 4dr SH-AWD Sedan

MSRP: $42,650
INVOICE: $40,784.41

OUR PRICE: $33,099
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:43 PM
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Is this real quote or make up numbers.
2016 BMW X5 xdrive asking $35k. These are SUV more in demand

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6137249054.html
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Is this real quote or make up numbers.
2016 BMW X5 xdrive asking $35k. These are SUV more in demand

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6137249054.html
Trying to defend TLX, goes and finds a price quote on a SUV...
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:47 PM
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this thread needs more meaningless pictures and diagrams, so here's a giraffe. It has as much relevance to this thread as the 2016 BMW X5

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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:48 PM
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also, private sales are always priced lower than dealer sales. What a guy.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 03:50 PM
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also, private sales are always priced lower than dealer sales. What a guy.
But with summer tires, you can hit light speed on his TSX
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Old May 18, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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Trying to defend TLX, goes and finds a price quote on a SUV...
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
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Old May 18, 2017 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
Doubles down on silly comparison...
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Old May 18, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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He's also forgetting that people who can afford to buy BMWs, keep buying BMWs. They don't have to slang a 10 year old Honda.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 06:01 PM
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2018 TLX Press Releases

Looks like these were released today.

Press Kit - Overview
2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Overview - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Pricing and EPA Ratings
2018 Acura TLX Pricing and EPA Ratings - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Specifications and Features
2018 Acura TLX Specifications and Features - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Powertrain
2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Powertrain - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Exterior
2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Exterior - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Interior
2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Interior - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

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2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Chassis - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

Safety and Driver Assistance
2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Safety and Driver Assistance - Acura Automobiles - Honda News

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2018 Acura TLX Press Kit - Accessories - Acura Automobiles - Honda News
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Old May 18, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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Why do i feel like we had this conversation already with him???

and i remember i said... Hey Corolla only lose a few thousand every year, then it must be the best car in the world.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Why do i feel like we had this conversation already with him???

and i remember i said... Hey Corolla only lose a few thousand every year, then it must be the best car in the world.
Right.

Rating a luxury automobile by value is like rating a marathon runner by his bench press. It doesn't matter very much.

Speaking of the Corolla, at least we (and Toyota) know what that is for. If you need transportation for a modest living, there really isn't a better car in the market than the Corolla or Civic.
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The fact that he used dollar amount instead of %...
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Old May 18, 2017 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
1-2 year old BMW depreciate $20K or $2.46 per mile. That's not bad. Comparison:

Acura that demand $200,000 depreciating $15,000 in less than 1 year and with only 477 miles. That's $31.47 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Beverly Hills, CA 90211: Coupe Details - 452130889 - Autotrader

Another Acura that demand $198,500 depreciating $13,550 in 7 months and with only 163 miles. That's $83.13 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Los Angeles, CA 90064: Coupe Details - 447110719 - Autotrader

It gets worse. Acura that demand $183,700 depreciating $13,800 in less than 1 year and with only 8 miles. That's $1,725 per mile depreciation!!! -- Cars for Sale: New 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Indianapolis, IN 46240: Coupe Details - 449916429 - Autotrader

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Old May 18, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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1-2 year old BMW depreciate $20K or $2.46 per mile. That's not bad. Comparison:

Acura that demand $200,000 depreciating $15,000 in less than 1 year and with only 477 miles. That's $31.47 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Beverly Hills, CA 90211: Coupe Details - 452130889 - Autotrader

Another Acura that demand $198,500 depreciating $13,550 in 7 months and with only 163 miles. That's $83.13 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Los Angeles, CA 90064: Coupe Details - 447110719 - Autotrader

It gets worse. Acura that demand $183,700 depreciating $13,800 in less than 1 year and with only 8 miles. That's $1,725 per mile depreciation!!! -- Cars for Sale: New 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Indianapolis, IN 46240: Coupe Details - 449916429 - Autotrader

Clearly the seller has the wrong tires.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
1-2 year old BMW depreciate $20K or $2.46 per mile. That's not bad. Comparison:

Acura that demand $200,000 depreciating $15,000 in less than 1 year and with only 477 miles. That's $31.47 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Beverly Hills, CA 90211: Coupe Details - 452130889 - Autotrader

Another Acura that demand $198,500 depreciating $13,550 in 7 months and with only 163 miles. That's $83.13 per mile depreciation -- Cars for Sale: Used 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Los Angeles, CA 90064: Coupe Details - 447110719 - Autotrader

It gets worse. Acura that demand $183,700 depreciating $13,800 in less than 1 year and with only 8 miles. That's $1,725 per mile depreciation!!! -- Cars for Sale: New 2017 Acura NSX for sale in Indianapolis, IN 46240: Coupe Details - 449916429 - Autotrader

the problem you can find one or two Acura that depreciated but i can find tons of BMW that depreciates.

that 2016 BMW is 8000 mile on it. only use 6 to 8 months. that BMW cost 1/3 of NSX.

now this i8 has only 18000 mile on it and it already lost $50k.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/6128972709.html

2015 BMW I8 PURE IMPULSE WORLD,CAMERA PACKAGE,WARRANTY,POWERFUL, FUN - $99881 (ACTIVE DRIVING ASSIST,FINANCING AVAILABLE

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/6130118295.html

2016 BMW M6 Only 800 Miles COMPETITION EDITION MSRP $167K - $139995 (

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Old May 18, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Why do i feel like we had this conversation already with him???

and i remember i said... Hey Corolla only lose a few thousand every year, then it must be the best car in the world.
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
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Old May 19, 2017 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
In order for a car to be "used", they have to be sold first.

And you know what happened when that BMW went to the used car lot? Another newer BMW replaced it in the owner's driveway.
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Old May 19, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
You know what is more rare than TLX SHAWD on used lot? RLX
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Old May 19, 2017 | 11:59 AM
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Oh, I thought you were going to say ILX
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Old May 19, 2017 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Oh, I thought you were going to say ILX
well ILX is next on the list after RLX.
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That was supposed to be a red text comment. C'mon!!
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Old May 19, 2017 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
Imagine that, there are more used Corolla's than used TLX's. I'm shocked! Could it be because Toyota sells 8.58 times more Corolla's than Acura sells TLX's in the U.S. ?

Instead of looking at total number, let's look at it as a percentage, which would be a more fair comparison.

An unscientific look at the numbers:

2015-2017 Toyota Corolla sales:
2015: 363,332
2016: 360,483
2017: 105,222

Total: 829,037
There are 10,664 used/certified used 2015-2017 Corolla's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 829,037 new Corolla's sold, 1.29% of them are now being sold as used.


2015-2017 Acura TLX sales:
2015: 47,080
2016: 37,156
2017: 12,382

Total: 96,618
There are 1,713 used/certified used 2015-2017 TLX's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 96,618 new TLX's sold, 1.77% of them are now being sold as used.

As a percentage, there are more used TLX's for sale than Corolla's

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Old May 19, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Old May 19, 2017 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
They will have to offer better products than Germans and charge less... once they have enough buyers and pose a real threat in sales number, and that is how they can slowly adjust their pricing.

But by simply charging less for inferior products don't work in this segment. It has worked before but not anymore. Your comparison between the V6 SHAWD TLX vs. a 4 banger 330 just proved that point.
lol your first sentence is pretty much what I said.

But ya, this is where I'm hoping the Precision stuff will deliver. The next 5 years will be important and we will see if Acura has learned anything, and if Honda has the balls to invest in Acura.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 12:09 AM
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Imagine that, there are more used Corolla's than used TLX's. I'm shocked! Could it be because Toyota sells 8.58 times more Corolla's than Acura sells TLX's in the U.S. ?

Instead of looking at total number, let's look at it as a percentage, which would be a more fair comparison.

An unscientific look at the numbers:

2015-2017 Toyota Corolla sales:
2015: 363,332
2016: 360,483
2017: 105,222

Total: 829,037
There are 10,664 used/certified used 2015-2017 Corolla's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 829,037 new Corolla's sold, 1.29% of them are now being sold as used.


2015-2017 Acura TLX sales:
2015: 47,080
2016: 37,156
2017: 12,382

Total: 96,618
There are 1,713 used/certified used 2015-2017 TLX's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 96,618 new TLX's sold, 1.77% of them are now being sold as used.

As a percentage, there are more used TLX's for sale than Corolla's
autotrader sales only corrolla that are not in rentals. It's inaccurate statistics
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Old May 20, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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So I just read somewhere that the TLX A-Spec suspension is a whopping 3% firmer dampening than standard.

What the what?
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Old May 22, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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forget about the suspension. I am more curious if A Spec comes with the upgraded tires.....
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Old May 23, 2017 | 03:12 AM
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^^^^^

But factory-tuned suspension comes with full warranty coverage, over aftermarket modded suspension; whereas for tires, it is cheap in cost to upgrade after vehicle sales.
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Old May 23, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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So I just read somewhere that the TLX A-Spec suspension is a whopping 3% firmer dampening than standard.

What the what?
Advanced, That kind of Thrill thinking by Acura!
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Old May 23, 2017 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
So I just read somewhere that the TLX A-Spec suspension is a whopping 3% firmer dampening than standard.

What the what?
Been Acura's MO since like 2001...the sportier models sportier bits only increased by a small margin.
Almost akin to how Honda handles their sport models...
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Old May 23, 2017 | 10:44 AM
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Isn't 3% like within or slightly out of their margin of error for manufacturing? If so, that means these were from the "bad" batch of dampers. Instead of tossing them, they saved them and called them A-Spec.
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Old May 23, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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Depends on what the tolerance is set at for quality during manufacturing. 3% seems like a lot...

Most of our parts are at a tolerance of thousandths.
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Old May 23, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the dampers, steering ratio, larger rims, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
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Old May 23, 2017 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the upgraded tires, tire ratio, larger tires, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
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Old May 25, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the dampers, steering ratio, larger rims, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
You could achieve 3% just by changing tires size/ratio with stiffer sidewall alone
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Old May 25, 2017 | 10:33 AM
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forget about the suspension. I am more curious if a spec comes with the upgraded tires.....
245/45/19 michelin
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Old May 25, 2017 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
You could achieve 3% just by changing tires size/ratio with stiffer sidewall alone
Hmmm, I think it's 3% just for the dampers...not sure what the total effect is with all the changes combined together.

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Unfortunately those aren't summer tires, just MXM4. Still better than the Goodyear tires though.
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