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I am sure TLX is faster, quieter, fuel efficient and will pull more gs with right size and summer tires. That bmw 3 series is piece of crap. you can see this in used car lots pricing.
Trying to defend TLX, goes and finds a price quote on a SUV...
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
Why do i feel like we had this conversation already with him???
and i remember i said... Hey Corolla only lose a few thousand every year, then it must be the best car in the world.
Right.
Rating a luxury automobile by value is like rating a marathon runner by his bench press. It doesn't matter very much.
Speaking of the Corolla, at least we (and Toyota) know what that is for. If you need transportation for a modest living, there really isn't a better car in the market than the Corolla or Civic.
the prices of bmw sedans too pathetic to post . I gave example of BMW largest SUV that is in demand. 2016 BMW 550 certified asking $53k. depreciating $20k per year for certified. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/6131258250.html
1-2 year old BMW depreciate $20K or $2.46 per mile. That's not bad. Comparison:
Why do i feel like we had this conversation already with him???
and i remember i said... Hey Corolla only lose a few thousand every year, then it must be the best car in the world.
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
In order for a car to be "used", they have to be sold first.
And you know what happened when that BMW went to the used car lot? Another newer BMW replaced it in the owner's driveway.
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
BMW has become a corrolla. Almost every type of BMW avaiable on used car lot at bargain basement prices.
You know what is more rare than TLX SHAWD on used lot? RLX
how TLX SH-AWD you can find on used car lot compared to Corrolla?.
Imagine that, there are more used Corolla's than used TLX's. I'm shocked! Could it be because Toyota sells 8.58 times more Corolla's than Acura sells TLX's in the U.S. ?
Instead of looking at total number, let's look at it as a percentage, which would be a more fair comparison.
An unscientific look at the numbers:
2015-2017 Toyota Corolla sales:
2015: 363,332
2016: 360,483
2017: 105,222
Total: 829,037
There are 10,664 used/certified used 2015-2017 Corolla's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 829,037 new Corolla's sold, 1.29% of them are now being sold as used.
2015-2017 Acura TLX sales:
2015: 47,080
2016: 37,156
2017: 12,382
Total: 96,618
There are 1,713 used/certified used 2015-2017 TLX's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 96,618 new TLX's sold, 1.77% of them are now being sold as used.
As a percentage, there are more used TLX's for sale than Corolla's
They will have to offer better products than Germans and charge less... once they have enough buyers and pose a real threat in sales number, and that is how they can slowly adjust their pricing.
But by simply charging less for inferior products don't work in this segment. It has worked before but not anymore. Your comparison between the V6 SHAWD TLX vs. a 4 banger 330 just proved that point.
lol your first sentence is pretty much what I said.
But ya, this is where I'm hoping the Precision stuff will deliver. The next 5 years will be important and we will see if Acura has learned anything, and if Honda has the balls to invest in Acura.
Imagine that, there are more used Corolla's than used TLX's. I'm shocked! Could it be because Toyota sells 8.58 times more Corolla's than Acura sells TLX's in the U.S. ?
Instead of looking at total number, let's look at it as a percentage, which would be a more fair comparison.
An unscientific look at the numbers:
2015-2017 Toyota Corolla sales:
2015: 363,332
2016: 360,483
2017: 105,222
Total: 829,037
There are 10,664 used/certified used 2015-2017 Corolla's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 829,037 new Corolla's sold, 1.29% of them are now being sold as used.
2015-2017 Acura TLX sales:
2015: 47,080
2016: 37,156
2017: 12,382
Total: 96,618
There are 1,713 used/certified used 2015-2017 TLX's on autotrader listed for sale across the U.S. That means that of the 96,618 new TLX's sold, 1.77% of them are now being sold as used.
As a percentage, there are more used TLX's for sale than Corolla's
autotrader sales only corrolla that are not in rentals. It's inaccurate statistics
But factory-tuned suspension comes with full warranty coverage, over aftermarket modded suspension; whereas for tires, it is cheap in cost to upgrade after vehicle sales.
So I just read somewhere that the TLX A-Spec suspension is a whopping 3% firmer dampening than standard.
What the what?
Been Acura's MO since like 2001...the sportier models sportier bits only increased by a small margin.
Almost akin to how Honda handles their sport models...
Isn't 3% like within or slightly out of their margin of error for manufacturing? If so, that means these were from the "bad" batch of dampers. Instead of tossing them, they saved them and called them A-Spec.
lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the dampers, steering ratio, larger rims, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the upgraded tires, tire ratio, larger tires, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
lol 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it seems like most reviewers enjoy driving the new A-spec. Perhaps the overall setup, including the dampers, steering ratio, larger rims, wider tires, stiffer suspension components etc all contribute to the overall improvement.
You could achieve 3% just by changing tires size/ratio with stiffer sidewall alone
05-18-2017, 03:15 PM
