General Car Talk Discussion Thread
Those places just neuter the point of the car. If I have a Lambo for a day, I'm doing 60-140 runs in that bitch.
I ain't spending $2500 on laps at a track 
I also don't think I would spend that much for a rental. IF I did, it would be for like some special project, that was covered by the budget of some larger entity. Like a production of some kind.
i.e. I'm not the one paying for it. 
I hear you though, track time is always good.

I also don't think I would spend that much for a rental. IF I did, it would be for like some special project, that was covered by the budget of some larger entity. Like a production of some kind.
i.e. I'm not the one paying for it. 
I hear you though, track time is always good.
Sorry Yummy.....

Video: man crashes into Pagani Zonda he's filming | Top Gear
Using a mobile phone while driving is a terrible thing to do for more reasons than the internet has space to list.
But on top of the danger you’ll cause yourself, your passengers and other road users, you can add the damage you’ll cause Pagani Zondas. This bloke in Uruguay didn’t heed such warnings, and ploughed straight into the back of the Zonda F he was using his mobile phone to film. Just to really hammer home the offensiveness, he was filming it all in portrait, too.
Now, there’s no footage of the impact, the villain of the story attempting to avoid said impact when it happened. But you hear the sickening touch. There’s even another angle, Premier League replay style, provided by another road user. Who also shouldn’t have been using a phone while driving.
Really, the only winner in this story is the company charging to fix the rear diffuser of a Pagani Zonda F. UK rules could soon see fines for use of phones while driving top out at £1,000. This indiscretion, though, probably cost a fair bit more still…
Just don’t do it. Please.
But on top of the danger you’ll cause yourself, your passengers and other road users, you can add the damage you’ll cause Pagani Zondas. This bloke in Uruguay didn’t heed such warnings, and ploughed straight into the back of the Zonda F he was using his mobile phone to film. Just to really hammer home the offensiveness, he was filming it all in portrait, too.
Now, there’s no footage of the impact, the villain of the story attempting to avoid said impact when it happened. But you hear the sickening touch. There’s even another angle, Premier League replay style, provided by another road user. Who also shouldn’t have been using a phone while driving.
Really, the only winner in this story is the company charging to fix the rear diffuser of a Pagani Zonda F. UK rules could soon see fines for use of phones while driving top out at £1,000. This indiscretion, though, probably cost a fair bit more still…
Just don’t do it. Please.
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There's just something about ownership to me. I understand why people consider cars appliances, but I don't want to drive around in a car a bunch of other people have driven.
I made an exception for my ex. though since she really enjoyed my Acura (her father owned one; hit it off immediately).
And I only have an F150, I imagine I'd be worse with a sports car of some sort.
LA and Atlanta has a Porsche-sponsored Porsche driving experience and of course Vegas has tons of exotic experiences.
These two are scary experiences though:
2 die in fiery crash at SpeedVegas racetrack | Las Vegas Review-Journal
Two men died after a car crash and fire Sunday at the SpeedVegas racetrack, 14200 Las Vegas Blvd. South.
The car’s driver, a male customer in his 30s, and an instructor, a male in his 50s who was in the passenger seat, were killed in the crash Sunday afternoon, Metropolitan Police Department Sgt. Steve Summers said.
The driver lost control of the car, a white Lamborghini, and spun out. The car crashed into a barrier wall and burst into flames.
On its website, SpeedVegas says its driving experiences let people bring their “driving fantasies to life on the longest and fastest racetrack in Las Vegas.”
SpeedVegas lets customers drive exotic cars including Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Corvettes. Participants must wear helmets as they navigate the 1.5 mile Formula One-inspired racetrack.
The site said the track includes sweeping and banked turns, an elevation change and a straightaway.
The federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration will investigate. It has been classified as an industrial accident.
In a statement, SpeedVegas CEO and co-founder Aaron Fessler confirmed the deaths and said the track is cooperating with authorities.
“We are devastated by this tragic event and extend our heartfelt sympathy to the families and to our SpeedVegas team members who have lost a beloved colleague,” Fessler said.
The car’s driver, a male customer in his 30s, and an instructor, a male in his 50s who was in the passenger seat, were killed in the crash Sunday afternoon, Metropolitan Police Department Sgt. Steve Summers said.
The driver lost control of the car, a white Lamborghini, and spun out. The car crashed into a barrier wall and burst into flames.
On its website, SpeedVegas says its driving experiences let people bring their “driving fantasies to life on the longest and fastest racetrack in Las Vegas.”
SpeedVegas lets customers drive exotic cars including Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Corvettes. Participants must wear helmets as they navigate the 1.5 mile Formula One-inspired racetrack.
The site said the track includes sweeping and banked turns, an elevation change and a straightaway.
The federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration will investigate. It has been classified as an industrial accident.
In a statement, SpeedVegas CEO and co-founder Aaron Fessler confirmed the deaths and said the track is cooperating with authorities.
“We are devastated by this tragic event and extend our heartfelt sympathy to the families and to our SpeedVegas team members who have lost a beloved colleague,” Fessler said.
Last edited by nist7; Feb 15, 2017 at 09:31 AM.
I really would like to know more of the details behind the Vegas crash. Granted I went years ago when they were still inside the oval, but I still went through an actual, brief class and introductory ride along in a Cayenne to understand the track.
Even in the car, the instructor was very clear on braking zones, turning/throttle input, etc. He never let me push the car near its limits or allow it to get away. I'm guessing they were really starting to push the car and it just got away.
Even in the car, the instructor was very clear on braking zones, turning/throttle input, etc. He never let me push the car near its limits or allow it to get away. I'm guessing they were really starting to push the car and it just got away.
I think with anything, safety record matters. I learned a lot from visiting New Zealand where bungee jumping and zip lining are among the most popular activities. Basically, this type of driving is an extreme sport, and safety records are critical. It goes without saying that no worthwhile instructor would let this happen.








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