Just bought an 06 TL need help.
01-16-2017, 12:09 AM
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Just bought an 06 TL need help.
Hey guys I'm 19 years old and college student who is new to the TL community I've done some snooping around on the forums for the past few weeks finally decided to make an account and post this question. Now before I get to the question, I know just by reading this title you guys will tell me to read the forums, knowing this, the questions I have will be in relevance to what I've read on the forums. I may ask some stupid basic questions since I'm new to the TL and to the car community as a whole so please bear with me.
1. Sound - Reading through this forum I noticed that most users here say that sound and performance are hard to go hand in hand. I also read that when it comes to modifying the exhaust, the sound will vary from person to person even if the same mods are done, this is due to welding, piping material or what ever it may be. Now here's where my question comes in, I really like the sound of the stage 3 exhaust, but I've read on this forum that adding a J-Pipe to a staged exhaust can change the sound due to alterations with the CATs. Now I want more power and I also want a good sound, I want a J-Pipe and I also want stage 3. You see how this contradicts with what I mentioned earlier about what I read on the Forums, well that's my problem. I want power and sound without rasp, but that will be difficult to do so do you suggest either any other alternatives or do you suggest a specific setup that has worked well most of the time with the highest chance of success or should I just stick with power or sound?
2. Performance Mods - Lets assume for this question I'm not getting a J-Pipe because getting a J-Pipe will matter based on the answer for Question 1. Now I want to increase performance, for now mostly Horse Power and Torque, I'm aware of the basic Parts to get like a Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body and Intake Manifold Spacers, Crank Pulleys and Obviously a Supercharger (I excluded Cams for a latter question). Is there any other lesser known form of increasing HP and Torque that I may have missed out on (if not ignore this)?
3. CAMS - I have no clue whats up with Cams, I hear the Type S cams really don't do much and the only good Cams available besides them are Bismoto Cams. Here's my issue, from my understanding Bismoto requires I send my Cams in correct? (if this is wrong ignore this part of the question, I swear if I'm wrong I'm gonna feel stupid) if so do they send me temporary cams or do I wait until he sends mine back and how long does the process take? Also I cant find an exact estimate in the Gain on HP for the Type S cams on the Threads I read.
4. ECU Tuning - I've read that the 04-06 Model has nothing on Hondata (here's where my car N00b question comes in) how do I tune it if I want to?
That really is all the questions I have, I really appreciate all the help I can get and I'm excited to be part of the TL community.
1. Sound - Reading through this forum I noticed that most users here say that sound and performance are hard to go hand in hand. I also read that when it comes to modifying the exhaust, the sound will vary from person to person even if the same mods are done, this is due to welding, piping material or what ever it may be. Now here's where my question comes in, I really like the sound of the stage 3 exhaust, but I've read on this forum that adding a J-Pipe to a staged exhaust can change the sound due to alterations with the CATs. Now I want more power and I also want a good sound, I want a J-Pipe and I also want stage 3. You see how this contradicts with what I mentioned earlier about what I read on the Forums, well that's my problem. I want power and sound without rasp, but that will be difficult to do so do you suggest either any other alternatives or do you suggest a specific setup that has worked well most of the time with the highest chance of success or should I just stick with power or sound?
2. Performance Mods - Lets assume for this question I'm not getting a J-Pipe because getting a J-Pipe will matter based on the answer for Question 1. Now I want to increase performance, for now mostly Horse Power and Torque, I'm aware of the basic Parts to get like a Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body and Intake Manifold Spacers, Crank Pulleys and Obviously a Supercharger (I excluded Cams for a latter question). Is there any other lesser known form of increasing HP and Torque that I may have missed out on (if not ignore this)?
3. CAMS - I have no clue whats up with Cams, I hear the Type S cams really don't do much and the only good Cams available besides them are Bismoto Cams. Here's my issue, from my understanding Bismoto requires I send my Cams in correct? (if this is wrong ignore this part of the question, I swear if I'm wrong I'm gonna feel stupid) if so do they send me temporary cams or do I wait until he sends mine back and how long does the process take? Also I cant find an exact estimate in the Gain on HP for the Type S cams on the Threads I read.
4. ECU Tuning - I've read that the 04-06 Model has nothing on Hondata (here's where my car N00b question comes in) how do I tune it if I want to?
That really is all the questions I have, I really appreciate all the help I can get and I'm excited to be part of the TL community.
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EvilVirus (01-17-2017)
01-16-2017, 06:31 AM
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First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to ask thoughtful questions!
now on to the answers!
1) you're going to have to ask yourself what is MORE IMPORTANT to you, sound or performance.
2) IF Performance is more important to you, get the Jpipe as your first performance mod. then you can build the sound and performance from there!
3) it's better if you have an extra set of cams(preferably RL cams but type-s works too) to be reground from Bisimoto, that way....no down time!
4) if you have an auto... YOU SIMPLY can't tune...because there is no offerings!
now on to the answers!
1) you're going to have to ask yourself what is MORE IMPORTANT to you, sound or performance.
2) IF Performance is more important to you, get the Jpipe as your first performance mod. then you can build the sound and performance from there!
3) it's better if you have an extra set of cams(preferably RL cams but type-s works too) to be reground from Bisimoto, that way....no down time!
4) if you have an auto... YOU SIMPLY can't tune...because there is no offerings!
01-16-2017, 04:15 PM
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I agree with justnspace, a Jpipe is definitely a good first mod! Its cheaper then a catback exhaust system, but still offers a slight change in sound, all with pretty decent gains! It seems like that's the best of both worlds; a performance upgrade, and something to start giving you the exhaust sound you're looking for!
And unfortunately there aren't many tuning options for that car. If it is the Type-S, Hondata requires a ECU adapter, FlashPro, and a new ECU to load that on. Otherwise, there isn't much out there. I'm not sure how well it would work, but you could retrofit a 07-08 TL ECU and load Hondata on that since they offer software for that platform.
Hope this helps, and feel free to check us out for all your performance needs! http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/
And unfortunately there aren't many tuning options for that car. If it is the Type-S, Hondata requires a ECU adapter, FlashPro, and a new ECU to load that on. Otherwise, there isn't much out there. I'm not sure how well it would work, but you could retrofit a 07-08 TL ECU and load Hondata on that since they offer software for that platform.
Hope this helps, and feel free to check us out for all your performance needs! http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/
01-17-2017, 07:13 AM
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Tls camshaft vs stock on a accord v6 untuned. I have RL camshafts in the fs. They have a little bit more agressive profile than the TLs and will net more mid range and a few HP up top. Now if you want regrind or billet. Get ready to shell out anywhere between 900-1600 for the camshaft alone and another 400-500 for valve springs and retainers
Tls and RL camshaft can be dropped in without upgrading the valve train with springs and retainers. Best to do them when you are doing timing belt.
01-17-2017, 08:19 AM
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First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to ask thoughtful questions!
now on to the answers!
1) you're going to have to ask yourself what is MORE IMPORTANT to you, sound or performance.
2) IF Performance is more important to you, get the Jpipe as your first performance mod. then you can build the sound and performance from there!
3) it's better if you have an extra set of cams(preferably RL cams but type-s works too) to be reground from Bisimoto, that way....no down time!
4) if you have an auto... YOU SIMPLY can't tune...because there is no offerings!
now on to the answers!
1) you're going to have to ask yourself what is MORE IMPORTANT to you, sound or performance.
2) IF Performance is more important to you, get the Jpipe as your first performance mod. then you can build the sound and performance from there!
3) it's better if you have an extra set of cams(preferably RL cams but type-s works too) to be reground from Bisimoto, that way....no down time!
4) if you have an auto... YOU SIMPLY can't tune...because there is no offerings!
Sorry for replying so late, and you're welcome, lol I actually saw you in a thread complaining about Newbs not reading forums so I went ahead and did my best. Anyways some quick responses I have.
1. I guess I'll just work with power.
2. Again same thing I'll get a Jpipe
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3/4. Will getting RL cams give a huge Gain in HP I haven't found any real numbers on any CAMs to be honest. Also Won't I have to Tune the car after getting CAMs? If so can I find a tuning shop that will do a Custom tune or is that not how tuning works?
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EvilVirus (01-17-2017)
01-17-2017, 08:21 AM
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I agree with justnspace, a Jpipe is definitely a good first mod! Its cheaper then a catback exhaust system, but still offers a slight change in sound, all with pretty decent gains! It seems like that's the best of both worlds; a performance upgrade, and something to start giving you the exhaust sound you're looking for!
And unfortunately there aren't many tuning options for that car. If it is the Type-S, Hondata requires a ECU adapter, FlashPro, and a new ECU to load that on. Otherwise, there isn't much out there. I'm not sure how well it would work, but you could retrofit a 07-08 TL ECU and load Hondata on that since they offer software for that platform.
Hope this helps, and feel free to check us out for all your performance needs! Excelerate's Honda & Acura Store - Japanese Performance Specialist - Homepage
And unfortunately there aren't many tuning options for that car. If it is the Type-S, Hondata requires a ECU adapter, FlashPro, and a new ECU to load that on. Otherwise, there isn't much out there. I'm not sure how well it would work, but you could retrofit a 07-08 TL ECU and load Hondata on that since they offer software for that platform.
Hope this helps, and feel free to check us out for all your performance needs! Excelerate's Honda & Acura Store - Japanese Performance Specialist - Homepage
How much would it cost to retro fit the ECU? Off course not looking for an exact price just an estimate. Would i be better off going for a junk yard search and replacing the ECU or buying one?
01-17-2017, 08:23 AM
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@ Killo608 did you not see the dyno graph I posted? 6whp/5wtq max gains and gains 5-10 throughout the rev range untuned.. Tuning will net better gains.
and to do hondata it is around 1000-1500 depending if you can find the stuff cheap. K-tuner is another option and is 200 cheaper but will still require everything you needed for flashpro minus the flashpro of course. Might be cheaper if you are a 6MT without navi since you only need a 50 dollar harness vs the 350 dollar harness and the TL ecu + flashpro or ktuner.
and to do hondata it is around 1000-1500 depending if you can find the stuff cheap. K-tuner is another option and is 200 cheaper but will still require everything you needed for flashpro minus the flashpro of course. Might be cheaper if you are a 6MT without navi since you only need a 50 dollar harness vs the 350 dollar harness and the TL ecu + flashpro or ktuner.
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01-17-2017, 08:25 AM
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Tls camshaft vs stock on a accord v6 untuned. I have RL camshafts in the fs. They have a little bit more agressive profile than the TLs and will net more mid range and a few HP up top. Now if you want regrind or billet. Get ready to shell out anywhere between 900-1600 for the camshaft alone and another 400-500 for valve springs and retainers
Tls and RL camshaft can be dropped in without upgrading the valve train with springs and retainers. Best to do them when you are doing timing belt.
Hm, Interesting I see you have the RL CAMs, im asuming the dynoruns are of the TLs CAMs so about how much Increase did you see with RL CAMs?
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I don't have them installed on my car. I have them FS. My car is turbo with 09 MDX camshaft, which is equivalent to TLs camshaft, so I am around 405+ whp/ and about 345wtq @ 8.5 psi
look at the FS thread and I have the camshaft specs per acura/honda manual. **click below**
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-par...shafts-953631/
look at the FS thread and I have the camshaft specs per acura/honda manual. **click below**
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-par...shafts-953631/
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Bisi camshaft are 800 + you must use their core now I think it was like 4 or 500 bucks. I need to ask my friend how much they charged him for core on his stage 2.5 camshaft. Just note that the centerline might be off with higher stage camshaft regrinds. The front and rear camshaft have different centerline to help maintain the smooth idle on OEM camshaft.
J30, J32, J35 Camshaft Profiles: Level 1,1.2 turbo, 2, 2.4 turbo, 3 | Bisimoto Engineering
and another 550 for springs and retainers
J-series Vtec Spring and Titanium Retainer Kit: J30, J32, J35 | Bisimoto Engineering
I called webcamshaft and they can make billet camshaft to any profile for 1600 bucks.
J30, J32, J35 Camshaft Profiles: Level 1,1.2 turbo, 2, 2.4 turbo, 3 | Bisimoto Engineering
and another 550 for springs and retainers
J-series Vtec Spring and Titanium Retainer Kit: J30, J32, J35 | Bisimoto Engineering
I called webcamshaft and they can make billet camshaft to any profile for 1600 bucks.
01-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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As far as labor goes, it's about an hour and a half to take out the ECU and swap it with a OEM one. For all the trouble that job would have behind it with it's different manifold runner flaps, different compression rates, and the simple fact that these two parts are meant to run two different setups, I couldn't even take a good guess. Assuming it is possible (but very labor intensive), once everything is plugged in you'd still need software, and at the end of it all I'm not sure if the gains would even be worth it.
The Jpipe is a much more tangible start, and those I can give you a price on! We have them on our site ready to ship here: http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/xlr8-performance/xlr8-jpipe/jpipev2ua67/i-1804833.aspx
01-17-2017, 06:35 PM
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You would be better off going on a junk yard search to save a couple bucks. Even if you bring it to a shop, you'll still need the ECU. They'll give you a choice to buy one yourself, or have them source it for you; and 9/10 times its cheaper to do that yourself.
As far as labor goes, it's about an hour and a half to take out the ECU and swap it with a OEM one. For all the trouble that job would have behind it with it's different manifold runner flaps, different compression rates, and the simple fact that these two parts are meant to run two different setups, I couldn't even take a good guess. Assuming it is possible (but very labor intensive), once everything is plugged in you'd still need software, and at the end of it all I'm not sure if the gains would even be worth it.
The Jpipe is a much more tangible start, and those I can give you a price on! We have them on our site ready to ship here: http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/xlr8-performance/xlr8-jpipe/jpipev2ua67/i-1804833.aspx
As far as labor goes, it's about an hour and a half to take out the ECU and swap it with a OEM one. For all the trouble that job would have behind it with it's different manifold runner flaps, different compression rates, and the simple fact that these two parts are meant to run two different setups, I couldn't even take a good guess. Assuming it is possible (but very labor intensive), once everything is plugged in you'd still need software, and at the end of it all I'm not sure if the gains would even be worth it.
The Jpipe is a much more tangible start, and those I can give you a price on! We have them on our site ready to ship here: http://hoa.excelerateperformance.com/xlr8-performance/xlr8-jpipe/jpipev2ua67/i-1804833.aspx
Thank you I really appreciate it, but do i really need a Tune for the CAMs?
01-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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Bisi camshaft are 800 + you must use their core now I think it was like 4 or 500 bucks. I need to ask my friend how much they charged him for core on his stage 2.5 camshaft. Just note that the centerline might be off with higher stage camshaft regrinds. The front and rear camshaft have different centerline to help maintain the smooth idle on OEM camshaft.
J30, J32, J35 Camshaft Profiles: Level 1,1.2 turbo, 2, 2.4 turbo, 3 Bisimoto Engineering
and another 550 for springs and retainers
J-series Vtec Spring and Titanium Retainer Kit: J30, J32, J35 Bisimoto Engineering
I called webcamshaft and they can make billet camshaft to any profile for 1600 bucks.
J30, J32, J35 Camshaft Profiles: Level 1,1.2 turbo, 2, 2.4 turbo, 3 Bisimoto Engineering
and another 550 for springs and retainers
J-series Vtec Spring and Titanium Retainer Kit: J30, J32, J35 Bisimoto Engineering
I called webcamshaft and they can make billet camshaft to any profile for 1600 bucks.
Thank you, I just read all your replies and i appreciate the help, I may just go with Type S CAMs.
01-18-2017, 01:50 AM
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Hey guys I'm 19 years old and college student who is new to the TL community I've done some snooping around on the forums for the past few weeks finally decided to make an account and post this question. Now before I get to the question, I know just by reading this title you guys will tell me to read the forums, knowing this, the questions I have will be in relevance to what I've read on the forums. I may ask some stupid basic questions since I'm new to the TL and to the car community as a whole so please bear with me.
1. Sound - Reading through this forum I noticed that most users here say that sound and performance are hard to go hand in hand. I also read that when it comes to modifying the exhaust, the sound will vary from person to person even if the same mods are done, this is due to welding, piping material or what ever it may be. Now here's where my question comes in, I really like the sound of the stage 3 exhaust, but I've read on this forum that adding a J-Pipe to a staged exhaust can change the sound due to alterations with the CATs. Now I want more power and I also want a good sound, I want a J-Pipe and I also want stage 3. You see how this contradicts with what I mentioned earlier about what I read on the Forums, well that's my problem. I want power and sound without rasp, but that will be difficult to do so do you suggest either any other alternatives or do you suggest a specific setup that has worked well most of the time with the highest chance of success or should I just stick with power or sound?
2. Performance Mods - Lets assume for this question I'm not getting a J-Pipe because getting a J-Pipe will matter based on the answer for Question 1. Now I want to increase performance, for now mostly Horse Power and Torque, I'm aware of the basic Parts to get like a Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body and Intake Manifold Spacers, Crank Pulleys and Obviously a Supercharger (I excluded Cams for a latter question). Is there any other lesser known form of increasing HP and Torque that I may have missed out on (if not ignore this)?
3. CAMS - I have no clue whats up with Cams, I hear the Type S cams really don't do much and the only good Cams available besides them are Bismoto Cams. Here's my issue, from my understanding Bismoto requires I send my Cams in correct? (if this is wrong ignore this part of the question, I swear if I'm wrong I'm gonna feel stupid) if so do they send me temporary cams or do I wait until he sends mine back and how long does the process take? Also I cant find an exact estimate in the Gain on HP for the Type S cams on the Threads I read.
4. ECU Tuning - I've read that the 04-06 Model has nothing on Hondata (here's where my car N00b question comes in) how do I tune it if I want to?
That really is all the questions I have, I really appreciate all the help I can get and I'm excited to be part of the TL community.
1. Sound - Reading through this forum I noticed that most users here say that sound and performance are hard to go hand in hand. I also read that when it comes to modifying the exhaust, the sound will vary from person to person even if the same mods are done, this is due to welding, piping material or what ever it may be. Now here's where my question comes in, I really like the sound of the stage 3 exhaust, but I've read on this forum that adding a J-Pipe to a staged exhaust can change the sound due to alterations with the CATs. Now I want more power and I also want a good sound, I want a J-Pipe and I also want stage 3. You see how this contradicts with what I mentioned earlier about what I read on the Forums, well that's my problem. I want power and sound without rasp, but that will be difficult to do so do you suggest either any other alternatives or do you suggest a specific setup that has worked well most of the time with the highest chance of success or should I just stick with power or sound?
2. Performance Mods - Lets assume for this question I'm not getting a J-Pipe because getting a J-Pipe will matter based on the answer for Question 1. Now I want to increase performance, for now mostly Horse Power and Torque, I'm aware of the basic Parts to get like a Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body and Intake Manifold Spacers, Crank Pulleys and Obviously a Supercharger (I excluded Cams for a latter question). Is there any other lesser known form of increasing HP and Torque that I may have missed out on (if not ignore this)?
3. CAMS - I have no clue whats up with Cams, I hear the Type S cams really don't do much and the only good Cams available besides them are Bismoto Cams. Here's my issue, from my understanding Bismoto requires I send my Cams in correct? (if this is wrong ignore this part of the question, I swear if I'm wrong I'm gonna feel stupid) if so do they send me temporary cams or do I wait until he sends mine back and how long does the process take? Also I cant find an exact estimate in the Gain on HP for the Type S cams on the Threads I read.
4. ECU Tuning - I've read that the 04-06 Model has nothing on Hondata (here's where my car N00b question comes in) how do I tune it if I want to?
That really is all the questions I have, I really appreciate all the help I can get and I'm excited to be part of the TL community.
1) If you get a j-pipe it is not going to remarkably change the sound. The RV6 V3 j-pipe is a great part but is more likely to add a raspy tone, as opposed to the ATLP or XLR8 options. I believe this is due to the merge design, but who knows really. I really don't agree with the idea that you can't have sound and performance. People say that because they go to extremes...past the point of reasonable performance. MAXIMUM performance is going to carry a sound compromise to a degree, but by no means should you feel like upgrading the performance of the car is going to make it sound like crap. This statement has your whole line of thinking skewed. Keep the stock primary cats on, get an ATLP V2 J-pipe and enjoy max gains and a smooth sound.
2) This is a poor assumption because you WILL get a j-pipe. I think you pretty much covered the basics here. Most all these mods will help your performance without messing the car up or making it less luxurious. You might also add in a J37 Intake Manifold.
3) Cams are not the greatest tree to bark up unless as mentioned you are already going to pull the timing side off and be doing a valve adjustment....the Type-S cams are a good bet for a few drop-n ponies but I am not sure I'd go there until you can tune for them.
4) Do you have an Auto or Manual transmission? I didn't see where you might have stated it...because if you have an Auto, then we can stop talking right there. If you have a Manual...you'd be getting a new or used ECU, plus a Harness, Plus a Flashpro or KTuner.
All the links above point to our product suggestions and/or informative posts in our blog. As you can see, Heeltoe is a great place to get everything you need to tune your TL. I can tell you right now I am impressed that at your age you are articulate and informed enough to make such a legible and sensible post. We hope to be working with you soon! #HTinyourcorner
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01-18-2017, 08:59 AM
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Hi there, here is our Heeltoe input:
1) If you get a j-pipe it is not going to remarkably change the sound. The RV6 V3 j-pipe is a great part but is more likely to add a raspy tone, as opposed to the ATLP or XLR8 options. I believe this is due to the merge design, but who knows really. I really don't agree with the idea that you can't have sound and performance. People say that because they go to extremes...past the point of reasonable performance. MAXIMUM performance is going to carry a sound compromise to a degree, but by no means should you feel like upgrading the performance of the car is going to make it sound like crap. This statement has your whole line of thinking skewed. Keep the stock primary cats on, get an ATLP V2 J-pipe and enjoy max gains and a smooth sound.
2) This is a poor assumption because you WILL get a j-pipe. I think you pretty much covered the basics here. Most all these mods will help your performance without messing the car up or making it less luxurious. You might also add in a J37 Intake Manifold.
3) Cams are not the greatest tree to bark up unless as mentioned you are already going to pull the timing side off and be doing a valve adjustment....the Type-S cams are a good bet for a few drop-n ponies but I am not sure I'd go there until you can tune for them.
4) Do you have an Auto or Manual transmission? I didn't see where you might have stated it...because if you have an Auto, then we can stop talking right there. If you have a Manual...you'd be getting a new or used ECU, plus a Harness, Plus a Flashpro or KTuner.
All the links above point to our product suggestions and/or informative posts in our blog. As you can see, Heeltoe is a great place to get everything you need to tune your TL. I can tell you right now I am impressed that at your age you are articulate and informed enough to make such a legible and sensible post. We hope to be working with you soon! #HTinyourcorner
Marcus
1) If you get a j-pipe it is not going to remarkably change the sound. The RV6 V3 j-pipe is a great part but is more likely to add a raspy tone, as opposed to the ATLP or XLR8 options. I believe this is due to the merge design, but who knows really. I really don't agree with the idea that you can't have sound and performance. People say that because they go to extremes...past the point of reasonable performance. MAXIMUM performance is going to carry a sound compromise to a degree, but by no means should you feel like upgrading the performance of the car is going to make it sound like crap. This statement has your whole line of thinking skewed. Keep the stock primary cats on, get an ATLP V2 J-pipe and enjoy max gains and a smooth sound.
2) This is a poor assumption because you WILL get a j-pipe. I think you pretty much covered the basics here. Most all these mods will help your performance without messing the car up or making it less luxurious. You might also add in a J37 Intake Manifold.
3) Cams are not the greatest tree to bark up unless as mentioned you are already going to pull the timing side off and be doing a valve adjustment....the Type-S cams are a good bet for a few drop-n ponies but I am not sure I'd go there until you can tune for them.
4) Do you have an Auto or Manual transmission? I didn't see where you might have stated it...because if you have an Auto, then we can stop talking right there. If you have a Manual...you'd be getting a new or used ECU, plus a Harness, Plus a Flashpro or KTuner.
All the links above point to our product suggestions and/or informative posts in our blog. As you can see, Heeltoe is a great place to get everything you need to tune your TL. I can tell you right now I am impressed that at your age you are articulate and informed enough to make such a legible and sensible post. We hope to be working with you soon! #HTinyourcorner
Marcus
Thank you so much for all the info you provided and sadly I have an auto
i guess no ecu tunes for me.
01-18-2017, 01:59 PM
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You should just strip the interior, weight reduction ftw!
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01-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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01-19-2017, 07:48 PM
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01-20-2017, 11:52 AM
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Don't strip the interior for DD use, get a nice set of tires and and exhaust to get some noise if you want, but keep it simple and maintain it. The TL is my DD and for the price it can't be touched, I have done minor upgrades as things wore out. I needed new struts so I bought OEM A-specs before they discontinued them, got Aspec kit to dress it up, RV6 exhaust for noise, upgraded clutch since it was on it's way out, if the CATS need to be replaced, get some hi performance ones. Spreads the cost out some.