Acura: NSX News
06-07-2016, 12:56 PM
#7321
Senior Moderator
negatory - the LFA's predecessor was the Supra.
06-07-2016, 12:57 PM
#7322
Senior Moderator
ALRIGHT - that was tongue-in-cheek.
BUT - the LFA was regarded as the next step from the Supra, in many circles.
BUT - the LFA was regarded as the next step from the Supra, in many circles.
06-07-2016, 01:15 PM
#7323
Team Owner
LFA has nothing to do with Supra IMO, other than it is probably 3 or 4 levels above Supra.
1. LFA is a Lexus with MSRP over $300k on limited run, very limited vs. Supra under Toyota at $35k MSRP with a production run for the 80s to the late 90s.
2. When LFA was on sale, its targeted buyers are completely different.
Very very different from NSX and now the new NSX....
1. LFA is a Lexus with MSRP over $300k on limited run, very limited vs. Supra under Toyota at $35k MSRP with a production run for the 80s to the late 90s.
2. When LFA was on sale, its targeted buyers are completely different.
Very very different from NSX and now the new NSX....
06-07-2016, 01:48 PM
#7324
Senior Moderator
LFA has nothing to do with Supra IMO, other than it is probably 3 or 4 levels above Supra.
1. LFA is a Lexus with MSRP over $300k on limited run, very limited vs. Supra under Toyota at $35k MSRP with a production run for the 80s to the late 90s.
2. When LFA was on sale, its targeted buyers are completely different.
Very very different from NSX and now the new NSX....
1. LFA is a Lexus with MSRP over $300k on limited run, very limited vs. Supra under Toyota at $35k MSRP with a production run for the 80s to the late 90s.
2. When LFA was on sale, its targeted buyers are completely different.
Very very different from NSX and now the new NSX....
When the LFA began and started evolving, it was supposed to be around $100k.
Also when the MKIV Supra came out it cost $55k out the door.
06-07-2016, 02:11 PM
#7325
Team Owner
well we are talking about MSRP... Market adjustment is just that... what the market wanted to pay.
06-07-2016, 03:04 PM
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06-07-2016, 07:27 PM
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Perhaps another example is the Nissan R35 GT-R.
First concept unveiled in 2001 Tokyo Autoshow - October 26, 2001.
The first production R35 GT-R came out in Japan on December 7, 2007.
Not sure which years were leap years, but assuming 365 days a year, it's about 2235 days.
R35 GT-R: 2235 days from unveiling GT-R concept to production.
NSX: 1598 days from unveiling first NSX concept to production.
For me, I see 2 stages. The first stage, from 2003 to 2011, is when Honda didn't know what they wanted to do about the NSX replacement. There were a lot of ideas and changes - HSC, ASCC, and HSV.
But when they finally confirmed the 2nd gen NSX, I feel that the time to market isn't that bad, as calculated above. And that's the second stage.
So, it really depends on how you see it.
06-07-2016, 07:42 PM
#7328
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Perhaps another example is the Nissan R35 GT-R.
First concept unveiled in 2001 Tokyo Autoshow - October 26, 2001.
The first production R35 GT-R came out in Japan on December 7, 2007.
Not sure which years were leap years, but assuming 365 days a year, it's about 2235 days.
R35 GT-R: 2235 days from unveiling GT-R concept to production.
NSX: 1598 days from unveiling first NSX concept to production.
For me, I see 2 stages. The first stage, from 2003 to 2011, is when Honda didn't know what they wanted to do about the NSX replacement. There were a lot of ideas and changes - HSC, ASCC, and HSV.
But when they finally confirmed the 2nd gen NSX, I feel that the time to market isn't that bad, as calculated above. And that's the second stage.
So, it really depends on how you see it.
First concept unveiled in 2001 Tokyo Autoshow - October 26, 2001.
The first production R35 GT-R came out in Japan on December 7, 2007.
Not sure which years were leap years, but assuming 365 days a year, it's about 2235 days.
R35 GT-R: 2235 days from unveiling GT-R concept to production.
NSX: 1598 days from unveiling first NSX concept to production.
For me, I see 2 stages. The first stage, from 2003 to 2011, is when Honda didn't know what they wanted to do about the NSX replacement. There were a lot of ideas and changes - HSC, ASCC, and HSV.
But when they finally confirmed the 2nd gen NSX, I feel that the time to market isn't that bad, as calculated above. And that's the second stage.
So, it really depends on how you see it.
06-07-2016, 08:13 PM
#7330
Moderator
I'm sorry, can you point out where you became God-of-Acurazine (aka Ron A), or even a mod for that matter? I'm afraid no one is compelled to follow your "orders." Moreover, no one is forcing you to read what some of us are saying.
06-07-2016, 09:08 PM
#7332
So from when Acura introduced the Advanced Sports Car Concept on January 7, 2007 at the North American International Auto Show until May 24, 2016?
That's over 3,400 days.
Acura | Press Releases Article | Acura.com
If from when Acura introduced the HSC at the 2003 Tokyo Motor Show.... Damn. Way too long.
That's over 3,400 days.
Acura | Press Releases Article | Acura.com
If from when Acura introduced the HSC at the 2003 Tokyo Motor Show.... Damn. Way too long.
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06-08-2016, 09:25 AM
#7333
Team Owner
06-08-2016, 11:10 AM
#7334
Senior Moderator
Well, we can talk about a few things. The potential of this car that has been teased and teased forever...and the fact that it FINALLY hit production and is rolling out of the factory.
Or, we can continue to complain and hatt about how it took forever to get to this point.
BTW, anyone on AZ actually buy this darn iteration of the car...?
Or, we can continue to complain and hatt about how it took forever to get to this point.
BTW, anyone on AZ actually buy this darn iteration of the car...?
06-08-2016, 11:31 AM
#7335
Safety Car
Well, we can talk about a few things. The potential of this car that has been teased and teased forever...and the fact that it FINALLY hit production and is rolling out of the factory.
Or, we can continue to complain and hatt about how it took forever to get to this point.
BTW, anyone on AZ actually buy this darn iteration of the car...?
Or, we can continue to complain and hatt about how it took forever to get to this point.
BTW, anyone on AZ actually buy this darn iteration of the car...?
Here's a nice slide from an internal "playbook" for the dealers it seeems. And they had a training session on "Connecting with the NSX Client"
Would be very interesting to see the actual details of the training but some teaser trivia on what seems are their market research shows:
source: https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...aybook-945969/
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06-08-2016, 11:43 AM
#7336
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$450K...? Yeah, no...apparently, I'm not in the demographics. 
06-08-2016, 11:43 AM
#7337
Senior Moderator
I do make up for the "HATTER" portion of the demographics though.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
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06-08-2016, 11:49 AM
#7338
Safety Car
Yeah, I'm about 400k off....!
I do fit some of the other checklist though:
25-49yo
0 miles at delivery
"True craftsmanship" (lol...whatever this means)
But would be interesting to see if anyone who is a semi board regular can afford this....
I do fit some of the other checklist though:
25-49yo
0 miles at delivery
"True craftsmanship" (lol...whatever this means)
But would be interesting to see if anyone who is a semi board regular can afford this....
06-08-2016, 11:57 AM
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06-08-2016, 01:11 PM
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The bolded portion above is the crux of the problem, IMO. The mathematical length of time, by itself, isn't that big of a deal (all things considered). But combine that length with the previous stops and starts and it's obvious why there is so much skepticism and cynicism.
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06-08-2016, 06:03 PM
#7342
I feel the need...
I think it means exactly what they are saying. Higher end spectrum consumers will pay a premium or full price for something crafted with an attention to quality.
But would be interesting to see if anyone who is a semi board regular can afford this....
06-08-2016, 06:05 PM
#7343
I feel the need...
We get your point, you're so sad and left out in the cold because Acura hasn't built your NSX yesterday. Move along.
06-08-2016, 08:22 PM
#7344
Senior Moderator
06-09-2016, 01:56 PM
#7345
Team Owner
^ i thought you were AZN... vapor requires water
06-09-2016, 02:05 PM
#7346
Senior Moderator
Were you sleeping in your Chem classes, foo? 
Didn't your
parents like mine demand that you get A++++ in your Science courses cuz you had to be a doctor, dentist, or similar...?
ANY vapor is a gas. If the temperatures are LOW enough, the molecules then slow down and become liquid. Yes? Ringing a bell?
I'm telling your mom...she gonna beat you good.
Didn't your
parents like mine demand that you get A++++ in your Science courses cuz you had to be a doctor, dentist, or similar...? ANY vapor is a gas. If the temperatures are LOW enough, the molecules then slow down and become liquid. Yes? Ringing a bell?
I'm telling your mom...she gonna beat you good.
06-09-2016, 04:04 PM
#7347
Team Owner
Were you sleeping in your Chem classes, foo?
Didn't your parents like mine demand that you get A++++ in your Science courses cuz you had to be a doctor, dentist, or similar...?
ANY vapor is a gas. If the temperatures are LOW enough, the molecules then slow down and become liquid. Yes? Ringing a bell?
I'm telling your mom...she gonna beat you good.
Didn't your
parents like mine demand that you get A++++ in your Science courses cuz you had to be a doctor, dentist, or similar...?ANY vapor is a gas. If the temperatures are LOW enough, the molecules then slow down and become liquid. Yes? Ringing a bell?
I'm telling your mom...she gonna beat you good.
i don't do good in school and my parents did not beat me with belt + cold water 
But my mom did bust a butcher knife on me once when I was young.
06-09-2016, 05:06 PM
#7348
Senior Moderator
06-10-2016, 06:29 AM
#7349
Race Director
NSX Pikes Peak Hill Climb
Acura is bringing three specially made NSXs to compete in the June 26 Pikes Peak hill climb. All of them are 2017 model years, but only one of them is how it would leave the factory.
The first NSX is given a custom high-flow racing exhaust, and also benefits from chassis lightening. Weight has been a point of contention around the new NSX, since the original only tipped the scales at 3,000 pounds, and the new one eclipses 3,800 pounds. Piloting this car in the Time Attack 1 class is James Robinson, who drove a first-generation NSX in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb from 2012-15. The twin-turbo V6 and electric motors from the stock car carry over unchanged here, so no more than the original 573 hp is on tap.
Nothing too special has been done to the NSX competing in the Time Attack 2 class, so we'll get to see how a stock NSX fares on the epic hill climb.
Acura’s third NSX is where they flip the script. Inspired by last year’s CR-Z-based electric prototype, this NSX turns full EV, and claims to make three times the output of the approximately 250 hp CR-Z. To do this and keep it sane, they’re using a four-motor setup that allocates torque to all four wheels independently. Tetsuya Yamano, the guy who drove last year's CR-Z prototype, will be behind the wheel of this NSX.
This being the 100th anniversary of the climb, we expect to experience a bit of nostalgia. Sadly, we won’t be getting it in the form of the original NSX, as Acura is only looking forward this time around.
Acura is bringing three specially made NSXs to compete in the June 26 Pikes Peak hill climb. All of them are 2017 model years, but only one of them is how it would leave the factory.
The first NSX is given a custom high-flow racing exhaust, and also benefits from chassis lightening. Weight has been a point of contention around the new NSX, since the original only tipped the scales at 3,000 pounds, and the new one eclipses 3,800 pounds. Piloting this car in the Time Attack 1 class is James Robinson, who drove a first-generation NSX in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb from 2012-15. The twin-turbo V6 and electric motors from the stock car carry over unchanged here, so no more than the original 573 hp is on tap.
Nothing too special has been done to the NSX competing in the Time Attack 2 class, so we'll get to see how a stock NSX fares on the epic hill climb.
Acura’s third NSX is where they flip the script. Inspired by last year’s CR-Z-based electric prototype, this NSX turns full EV, and claims to make three times the output of the approximately 250 hp CR-Z. To do this and keep it sane, they’re using a four-motor setup that allocates torque to all four wheels independently. Tetsuya Yamano, the guy who drove last year's CR-Z prototype, will be behind the wheel of this NSX.
This being the 100th anniversary of the climb, we expect to experience a bit of nostalgia. Sadly, we won’t be getting it in the form of the original NSX, as Acura is only looking forward this time around.
06-11-2016, 08:18 AM
#7351
Senior Moderator
06-11-2016, 11:55 AM
#7352
I feel the need...
Can you yawn, in the bot?
Can you hatt in the bot?
Can you say belated in the bot?
Can you pour whine in the bot?
What what in the bot, I said what what in the bot...
Can you hatt in the bot?
Can you say belated in the bot?
Can you pour whine in the bot?
What what in the bot, I said what what in the bot...
06-11-2016, 12:01 PM
#7353
Team Owner
All I can see is NSXs that could've gone to potential clients, but instead, Honda keeps building these and then I assume destroying them after. Good plan Honda. Keep the customers waiting. Bwa ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!!!!
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07-03-2016, 08:21 PM
#7357
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Looks...non-vapor. 
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07-04-2016, 08:18 AM
#7360
Senior Moderator
Sooooo it was only able to beat the Nissan GTR by .2 of a sec
