'05 TL Front Doors Won't Stay Open--Dealer Says No Adjustment Possible

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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'05 TL Front Doors Won't Stay Open--Dealer Says No Adjustment Possible

The front doors on my 05 TL will not stay open when getting in or out of the car. Tension needs to be added to the mechanism that is supposed to hold the door open much the same as added tension to the "closer" on a office door. Dealer says they have had complaints from other TL owners on this issue but Acura does not have a fix. Does anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Have them replace the stopper on the doors. I forgot the exact name, but it should have 2 or 3 stops on it.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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check strap.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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No ideas, but my 07 TL try's to nail me everytime I'm getting out. So far the door has smashed my head, hit me back in the car while I was bent over getting something and hit my shin in that same spot that hits the coffee table
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Assuming its not broken, they just have weak detents. Call it the "auto-close" feature. It helps to not throw the door open also, it tends to just bounce back. Try opening and steadying it before letting go. Very annoying, I've gotten banged in the shins a few times, too.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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i am really suprised this hasnt been discussed more on this forum... both my TL's (06 & 08TL-S) have the same issue, especially when they were new... if you push the door open, reach around to grab something, and go to get out.. the door CLOSES ON YOU !! it never fails..

it pisses my girlfriend off so much... but i'll tell ya, after a while and alot of use, the door doesnt do it as violently and as often...
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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actually i like that lol i concider it a feature!

when i get out of my car i never have to turn around to shut the door,i love that lol...
the reason it does it is because we have heavy ass doors,and i highly doubt its a faulty check strap.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Cordray
The front doors on my 05 TL will not stay open when getting in or out of the car. Tension needs to be added to the mechanism that is supposed to hold the door open much the same as added tension to the "closer" on a office door. Dealer says they have had complaints from other TL owners on this issue but Acura does not have a fix. Does anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
OK, now that we know this is a real issue, what can we do to get Acura to fix it. Does anyone have any inside contacts within Acura who will fight for a fix?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Cordray
OK, now that we know this is a real issue, what can we do to get Acura to fix it. Does anyone have any inside contacts within Acura who will fight for a fix?

we could ask for carbon fiber doors maybe?

like i said..its cause our doors our heavy,there is nothing to fix.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by deltaboxxx
we could ask for carbon fiber doors maybe?

like i said..its cause our doors our heavy,there is nothing to fix.
I called Acura Customer Care @ (800) 382-2238. They have never had anyone complain about this door closing issue. I did and was issued a Case#. The only way we can get Acura to do something is if enough complaints are filed. I would love for everyone to call and file a complaint. This is more than an inconvenience, but a safety issue. The way the door is curved toward the top, if it hits someone in the back while they are getting something out of the car it will be very painful. We already know what is does to legs! HELP!
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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like i said before,i dont have any issues with this "problem"

honestly its all about how heavy our doors are and that maybe they used a check strap that was designed to loose for our cars,maybe they should have used one with a tighter weight limit
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Is it me, but the door has 3 points where it can stop, on other cars I think it's 2 points.
Yes these doors are heavy and they open wide.
I guess the engineers figured that it's for the American market and that all American are big, so it couldn't hurt to have a huge opening.
But if you time it correctly you can make the door close when you get into your seat.
Bystanders may think it some sort of Acura technology
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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haha like i said before i love that cause i hardly ever have to close my door for myself,ive gotten so used to it that i get mad when i have to reach out to shut my door.lol
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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I think they got the wide door opening thing from European cars. Benz, Audi, BMW all have doors that open really wide.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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i miss my benz sometimes. too bad it was a peice
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
i am really suprised this hasnt been discussed more on this forum... both my TL's (06 & 08TL-S) have the same issue, especially when they were new... if you push the door open, reach around to grab something, and go to get out.. the door CLOSES ON YOU !! it never fails..

it pisses my girlfriend off so much... but i'll tell ya, after a while and alot of use, the door doesnt do it as violently and as often...
and here i was thinking its because i haven't been working out lately lol

Originally Posted by korrupted
...if you time it correctly you can make the door close when you get into your seat.
Happens to me all the time too, its pretty cool knowing all the little characteristics of our cars
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Cordray
I called Acura Customer Care @ (800) 382-2238. They have never had anyone complain about this door closing issue. I did and was issued a Case#. The only way we can get Acura to do something is if enough complaints are filed. I would love for everyone to call and file a complaint. This is more than an inconvenience, but a safety issue. The way the door is curved toward the top, if it hits someone in the back while they are getting something out of the car it will be very painful. We already know what is does to legs! HELP!
I actually think this is a design feature. It has been discussed before. There are two stop positions when the door is opened wide enough. It does take some practice but opening the door slowly and wide does work. As you have read, opionions vary.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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it is a design feature


the doors are weight balanced to close all the way from an open posistion with just your pinky pushing
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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One prob is that I opened the door for a cop and it boomaranged and hit him. I thought he was going to kill me.................
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Doors not staying open: dangerous and poor design.

The passenger and driver side doors will not stay open, and often close on to legs, shins, hands, head etc. I have a 2006 TL and this defect is extremely annoying and dangerous, especially since I have children that could be seriously injured from this problem. My drive is on a very, very, very slight incline (10 degrees at the most) and EVERY time I park I have to take about 5-10 seconds to hold the door open w/ my foot or hand while it is fully open to ensure it doesn't slam back on to me. I told the local dealer/repair shop regarding the problem in 2008 and 2009, and they claimed to have never heard of such a problem (yeah, right). Some other websites have made the very unhelpful suggestions: there is no problem, it is a neat European feature to have the door close automatically, etc. Bottom line is that the problem is dangerous and Acura is hiding the complaints or unprofessional, in my opinion. Hell, the door just slammed back on to my wife's head today and gave her a golf-ball size lump on her head. After today's accident, I am considering selling it to get another manufacturer's sedan that won't endanger me and my family every time we get in or out it.
BTW: does "DeltaBoxxx" work for Acura? Anyone that thinks this is not an actual problem needs to have their head examined (hopefully before the door(s) slam back on to their own head).
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Well there is a fix for this problem.
Search the forum about the accord stopper (i dont record the number of that part)
It is simply a plug and play no modification necessary (just replace the acura one with accord one)
After that you door does not bonce back at all
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Once you figure it out, it is actually quite nice. Problem is that is is very frustrating until you do.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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I have to do the same thing...open the door and make sure it doesnt want to close by itself. I really have no idea how you could possibly hurt your head though when exiting the vehicle...what do you do lead with your head? Make it the last thing out of the car? The idea behind you having a huge knot on your head makes me laugh...sorry but it seems kind of ridiculous. I open my door..with my hand on it at all times and step out...than i let go of the door and it politely closes itself. I dont see where your big issues is honestly. If i were you I'd get a safety 2x4 or something else to prop it open while your family pops out head first.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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I've never had a problem - at least not after the first few days of ownership. I mean really, how many times do you need to get your shins whacked before you figure it out?




Use the detents in the "strap". If those are missing/worn/defective, then yeah, I hear ya and you need to replace the part. Hopefully warranty or good will.

But if they are working properly, you just need to take your time and make sure the door catches a detent before entering/exiting.

It's not that hard to be smarter than your car door.


(And, BTW, a 10 degree incline is actually quite a lot and I could see where that would require extra care.)
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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Looking for a lawsuit are we? Seriously, learn how to use the doors. ALL car doors can be dangerous, just like EVERYTHING. It is not a "problem", it is a feature that has been there since day 1 when you bought the car, if you didn't like it then, you shouldn't have bought it. I mean really, how hard is it to open a car door and hold it open until you get out. Its not like acura is going out of their way to try and harm you like you seem to think.

Originally Posted by msalaben
The passenger and driver side doors will not stay open, and often close on to legs, shins, hands, head etc. I have a 2006 TL and this defect is extremely annoying and dangerous, especially since I have children that could be seriously injured from this problem. My driveway is on a very, very, very slight incline (10 degrees at the most) and EVERY time I park I have to take about 5-10 seconds to hold the door open w/ my foot or hand while it is fully open to ensure it doesn't slam back on to me. I told the local dealer/repair shop regarding the problem in 2008 and 2009, and they claimed to have never heard of such a problem (yeah, right). Some other websites have made the very unhelpful suggestions: there is no problem, it is a neat European feature to have the door close automatically, etc. Bottom line is that the problem is dangerous and Acura is hiding the complaints or unprofessional, in my opinion. Hell, the door just slammed back on to my wife's head today and gave her a golf-ball size lump on her head. After today's accident, I am considering selling it to get another manufacturer's sedan that won't endanger me and my family every time we get in or out it. BTW - the previous posting/suggestions of installing Honda parts does sound helpful; it is pretty f****** sad that the dealer/manufacturer will not (and did not) offer such remedy in the first place.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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Posts moved from the other zombie thread on this topic. The other thread contains info on the Accord stopper which is reported to address the (too) easy-close feature.

Here is the link for that thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13129891


Relevant post on the Accord stopper quoted below:

Originally Posted by speedy4ever
good news
the accord door checkers did eliminate the self closing feature on the tl. i did the driver side door this weekend and took me about 20 mins to swap out the door checkers. the door still feels a little "light" but it has more of a drag which causes the door to no longer self swing back.
great mod for those who are tired of the "automatic closing doors"
i plan on doing the passenger side this coming weekend.

stock tl "groved door checker"


accord "flat" door checker


compared side by side


accord door checker installed

Last edited by Bearcat94; Aug 1, 2011 at 02:44 PM.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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great info - i have the same door problems as everyone else. Thought it was kinda neat (self closing door) until my gf got wacked by the door - not so cool now.
Anyhow Acura says it's not a problem and no one has complained about it.
any other ideas? I like the honda part approach but my '08 is still in warranty

jon
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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I am 6'5" so I am implying that I probably got pretty long arms...ie: I got a pretty good reach. When I get into my car and the door is left wide open, it is a bit of stretch for me to reach out and pull the door closed. And, as time went by, and I got more and more used to the car, I sort of got into a pattern of how to get into the car and have the door close behind me. And I like that.
So, if/when, you get your TL door to be left hanging wide open, won't your girlfriend then just have another problem of having to practically step back out of the car to pull the door closed, once she is in?
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ny_blacura
great info - i have the same door problems as everyone else. Thought it was kinda neat (self closing door) until my gf got wacked by the door - not so cool now.
Anyhow Acura says it's not a problem and no one has complained about it.
any other ideas? I like the honda part approach but my '08 is still in warranty

jon
sir, no disrespect to you.
but the honda accord part approach is the only viable solution to this "feature" that we have.
as you can see in the pictures above, the checker is a shorter piece without the two notches.

if you're not wanting to do the fix above, tell your gf to learn how to operate this feature.
Do not swing the door open.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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I'm a new owner of an '06 TL. I also discovered that "automatic door close" feature. I'm used to it now and I like it. If I want the door to stay open, I just open it wider. Otherwise, I open it, slide in, and the door closes nicely behind me. If it's a problem for you, how about just keeping a hand on the door handle as you enter the car?
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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.... how about just keeping a hand on the door handle as you enter the car?
Dude. Stop! Please.

Next thing you'll be expecting people to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Thanks for the tips on the Honda closers! I'm going to get this done next time I take it in.

It's funny, but like most other owners, I've learned how to deal with this but my g/f absolutely hates this feature; it bugs her enough to nag me to get a different car! What I've learned is - you open the door to one of the available 'detent' positions, and it will hold. But she just can't seem to get the hang of that! And even I still get 'hit' once in a while ...
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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haha like i said before i love that cause i hardly ever have to close my door for myself,ive gotten so used to it that i get mad when i have to reach out to shut my door.lol

This! haha
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