Am i getting really bad gas milage or is this normal?
Am i getting really bad gas milage or is this normal?
well i live in LA and i have a daily commute of about 15-20 miles each day, usually not during rush hour. i drive 30% highway 70% city....but im getting 16-18 MPG. this cant be normal, can it?
I've learned that the TL is one of those wonders of the world... You can get some pretty bad gas mileage in stop and go driving, but will compete with some compact cars on the highway. My stats are opposite of yours 70% highway / 30% city, and I average bewteen 25 and 26 mpg.
You will get a firestorm of different answers. It really depends on your average miles per hour as indicated in your MID. Also, I think we have some of the worst gas in the nation in Cali. My driving is about the same mix as yours. For the year, I'm averaging 17.6 MPG in the TL. My worst tank was @ 14.7 MPG, the best has been 20.0. When driving mostly highway I get closer to 30 MPG. The mileage average is very sensitive to stop and go driving. For the same period my MDX averages 15.2 MPG and my Del Sol is averaging 24.5 MPG.
I enter all of my data into Gas Cubby on my Iphone to keep track. Tonight I paid $2.96/Gal for Regular Unleaded (DelSol) and this is what I'm mostly driving right now.
I enter all of my data into Gas Cubby on my Iphone to keep track. Tonight I paid $2.96/Gal for Regular Unleaded (DelSol) and this is what I'm mostly driving right now.
please dont use 87 regular gas in the TL
yes the computer will compensate but its bad for it
91 or higher- meaning 93 or 94 if thats what they sell in your area
the first 15 miles/minutes are when the car is just getting warmed up- recharge the battery from starting the car, and trying to dry out overnight moisture from the oils
Worst mileage of the day right there
The book says if thats your normal drive.. to take it on the freeway for an hour cruise once a month to get it all dried out- really important to the life and running of the car
with the recent temp increases in most areas:
check your tire pressure- when it gets hot the pressure goes down- molecule yadayada they can be run higher than what the door sticker says in most cases
36 psi average for most tires that book says 32, less rolling resistance and wont hurt tire
How many miles on the car? 50k? its ready for a seafoam treatment- it really does clean out crud buildup -the ethanol 10 gas is messing up cars across the country
thats why makers are adding cleaners to every octane now- not just the 91
They HAVE to!
yes the computer will compensate but its bad for it
91 or higher- meaning 93 or 94 if thats what they sell in your area
the first 15 miles/minutes are when the car is just getting warmed up- recharge the battery from starting the car, and trying to dry out overnight moisture from the oils
Worst mileage of the day right there
The book says if thats your normal drive.. to take it on the freeway for an hour cruise once a month to get it all dried out- really important to the life and running of the car
with the recent temp increases in most areas:
check your tire pressure- when it gets hot the pressure goes down- molecule yadayada they can be run higher than what the door sticker says in most cases
36 psi average for most tires that book says 32, less rolling resistance and wont hurt tire
How many miles on the car? 50k? its ready for a seafoam treatment- it really does clean out crud buildup -the ethanol 10 gas is messing up cars across the country
thats why makers are adding cleaners to every octane now- not just the 91
They HAVE to!
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Our commutes are similar and my average is a little over 24 MPG with my '04 manual. I once had a high of 27.98 for a work week commute in the summer (remember, you get higher mileage in the warmer months). I was really trying to milk it then plus I had the stock EL42's on the car.
please dont use 87 regular gas in the TL
yes the computer will compensate but its bad for it
91 or higher- meaning 93 or 94 if thats what they sell in your area
the first 15 miles/minutes are when the car is just getting warmed up- recharge the battery from starting the car, and trying to dry out overnight moisture from the oils
Worst mileage of the day right there
The book says if thats your normal drive.. to take it on the freeway for an hour cruise once a month to get it all dried out- really important to the life and running of the car
with the recent temp increases in most areas:
check your tire pressure- when it gets hot the pressure goes down- molecule yadayada they can be run higher than what the door sticker says in most cases
36 psi average for most tires that book says 32, less rolling resistance and wont hurt tire
How many miles on the car? 50k? its ready for a seafoam treatment- it really does clean out crud buildup -the ethanol 10 gas is messing up cars across the country
thats why makers are adding cleaners to every octane now- not just the 91
They HAVE to!
yes the computer will compensate but its bad for it
91 or higher- meaning 93 or 94 if thats what they sell in your area
the first 15 miles/minutes are when the car is just getting warmed up- recharge the battery from starting the car, and trying to dry out overnight moisture from the oils
Worst mileage of the day right there
The book says if thats your normal drive.. to take it on the freeway for an hour cruise once a month to get it all dried out- really important to the life and running of the car
with the recent temp increases in most areas:
check your tire pressure- when it gets hot the pressure goes down- molecule yadayada they can be run higher than what the door sticker says in most cases
36 psi average for most tires that book says 32, less rolling resistance and wont hurt tire
How many miles on the car? 50k? its ready for a seafoam treatment- it really does clean out crud buildup -the ethanol 10 gas is messing up cars across the country
thats why makers are adding cleaners to every octane now- not just the 91
They HAVE to!
And how much stock do you have in Seafoam? I don't think I've seen you post without mentioning it.
With my current tires (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus), my mileage for this commute is a little over 24 MPG. When I had the stock EL42's on the car, I managed 27.98 MPG for this commute during one week in the summer (remember you get better mileage in the warmer months than the colder months).
OOPS. I just noticed that my last attempt at posting, which appeared to have failed, actually worked.
i do 80% highway and 20% back roads. i usually get 30mpg and sometime 28mpgs. When i change my oil and get some air in the tires clean my air filter, and seafoam. i got 32mpgs but it does not last long. I would drive around for a week or two and it will go back down to 28MPG or sometime 26MPGs
clean the TB plate too- it gets dirty from the PCV system and effects the air coming in to feed the engine
I wish I had stock in foam! it and a few others like bg44 and wynns do an amazing job removing carbin buildup and combustion crud
With our zero tolerance hi compression engines its particularly important to keep everything clean
My Honda bike manual requires a `decarbonizing` now and then- warning that contact between the carbon layer on the piston to valves is possible if left to build up! Yikes!!
Anyone who has done or read the egr port cleaning thread knows how bad these engines get inside quickly
Many hi end cars require induction cleaning (many machines use guess what?!) every year -15k miles.
Acura dealers have signs in the service dept for it at $100-$149
No, its not in the book of `scheduled maitenance`- a lot of things are not in the book but are helpful and smart in the long run- like induction cleaning and new plugs at 60, not 100k miles
The car will run better
sorry I missed the 87 octane driver is in a delsol- not wearing my glasses~
but the info is valid for the TL- which is what I think about on this forum
I wish I had stock in foam! it and a few others like bg44 and wynns do an amazing job removing carbin buildup and combustion crud
With our zero tolerance hi compression engines its particularly important to keep everything clean
My Honda bike manual requires a `decarbonizing` now and then- warning that contact between the carbon layer on the piston to valves is possible if left to build up! Yikes!!
Anyone who has done or read the egr port cleaning thread knows how bad these engines get inside quickly
Many hi end cars require induction cleaning (many machines use guess what?!) every year -15k miles.
Acura dealers have signs in the service dept for it at $100-$149
No, its not in the book of `scheduled maitenance`- a lot of things are not in the book but are helpful and smart in the long run- like induction cleaning and new plugs at 60, not 100k miles
The car will run better
sorry I missed the 87 octane driver is in a delsol- not wearing my glasses~
but the info is valid for the TL- which is what I think about on this forum
I bought my 2005 TL used and have only had it since April or May (time flies - I forget now). Anyway, I have always put only gasoline WITHOUT any ethanal. I drive 32 miles one way to work. 2 miles city, 28 miles interstate, then 2 more mile city. However, sometimes the interstate miles there will be some stop and go. Anyway, my average according to the display over several fill-ups is 27 to 28 mpg. If I go to see my daughter in Cincinnati - I have gotten as high as 31, but usually at least 30. Depends on how much I stay at 80 MPH, or slow down a little around 65 to 70.
I have friends who have compared running gas with no ethanol vs. gas with ethanol and they say that their mileage is about 10% worse with the ethanol gas.
Robert
I have friends who have compared running gas with no ethanol vs. gas with ethanol and they say that their mileage is about 10% worse with the ethanol gas.
Robert
Last edited by Trek7300; Jun 20, 2009 at 04:14 PM. Reason: corrected misspelling
Sorry 01tl4tl, you are incorrect in your post above that tire pressure decreases in warmer weather. Air pressure in your tire does the exact opposite. Tire pressure increases as temp rise and decrease as temp goes falls. General rule is for every 10 degrees of change in tempetature you gain or lose about 1 psi of tire pressure.
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