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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Power steering hose recall

My power steering is making that loud noise...I had my hose replaced under the recall a little while back. So my question, could this noise have anything to do with the dealership replacing my power steering hose?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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I dont see why not. Did it make this noise prior to the recall repair? If not I would return to the dealership and see what can be done.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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The dealership should honor any warranty work or recall work that may need done. Perhaps they didn't do the job properly. It's a safety issue, so get back in to have it taken care of.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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I had my car in and they told me the hose was replaced.. but ever since.. and typically only when it's cold.. the damn ps whirrs.. Ahhh!!!!

I'm going to take it back eventually but such a hassle.. seriously wtf.. I didn't verify if they flushed the ps fluid well but I would assume that is a given.. (lesson learned: never assume)

So again, we're in the same boat.. this issue isn't new.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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So I took the car in this afternoon and the dealership claims that this could not be a result of recall work. The power steering pump is going to have to be replaced which they estimated to be around $600 for parts and labor!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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^ what the! They should honor it. Normally the P/S pump shouldn't have gone bad.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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I agree the PS pump should not go bad. How old is the car? how many miles/km? this should be warranty, even if just out of warranty honda should give you a good faith repalcement.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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...thats exactly what i didn't want to hear. i've got a p/s hose recall but i've been procrastinating yet to have a dealership look at it. absolutely zero problems w/ the car but reading past post on this issue i guess its in my best interest. 2006 NBP TL
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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its a 2004 and the car just hit 100k last week! I've owned a few cars and this is the first time I've dealt with this issue. Why shouldn't the power steering pump go bad? and what would cause it to go bad?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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failure to change the fluid at 60 k miles or whatever your years owner book calls for it
Old fluid can eat seals or damage o-ring
Be glad its only the pump and not the whole steering rack
I would call the local auto parts recycler/junkyard and ask for a pump
100k miles--something is bound to wear out! Hows the transmission~
Be sure to do a full system/steering rack included, cleaning flush- before installing a new/used pump


others: dont wait on that p/s recall- its for a potential breakage at the hose fitting- loss of fluid onto hot exhaust- loss of power steering and possible underhood fire
Not likely- but possible none the less
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Honda/Acura power steering pumps are shit. I've had the steering pump replaced on my 03 V6 accord cpe at 70k miles and now my Tl's need to be replaced. I think there is a design flaw with them.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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I have a 99 honda civic with 147000 miles and have never changed the fluid in the PS. I have no noise and there has never been a problem. For a pump to wear out in 4-5 years is not normal.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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What does the dealership check to see if the power steering hose was replaced? I looked at mine and it looks pretty new. I just got the car two weeks ago from an acura dealership.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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I had the exact same problem and the dealership replaced the power steering hose under the recall. The morning have been cooler and not a noise from the power steering since the repair.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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well ever since I took the car to the dealership the power steering noise has stopped. any ideas why or what this might mean?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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What is the function of this pump exactly, would like to understand the mechanics.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
My power steering is making that loud noise...I had my hose replaced under the recall a little while back. So my question, could this noise have anything to do with the dealership replacing my power steering hose?
Can you explain what the noise is and where it's coming from?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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It sounds kinda like a high pitched vacuum and it seems to be coming from the right side of the engine bay close to the windshield. It only makes the noise when I first start the car and when I'm going slow/turning the wheel, but like I said it has not made the noise again since Tuesday.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NCTL05
What does the dealership check to see if the power steering hose was replaced? I looked at mine and it looks pretty new. I just got the car two weeks ago from an acura dealership.
If your p/s hose was replaced under warranty, the dealer was supposed to make a punch mark above the first few letters/number of your VIN against the firewall. It's kind of tough to see, but it's right behind the middle of our strut tower bar inside the engine bay.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Hey i have the same issue, bought my 04 TL and brought it for the recall, now im gettin the power steering noise...i will be bringing it to the dealer again next week i suggest you do the same
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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I was calling to bring in the car for servicing and they said there's a recall on the power steering hose and they'll get that replaced too. Didn't even think anything of it!
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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When the dealer tech swapped out the hose they should have purged the fluid. It's likely cavitation is what caused the whirring noise and ends up hurting the p/s pump. The internals don't like chewing air. No way would I accept the idea that replacing a part related to the steering system didn't somehow upset the other pieces.

If you get no response on customer good will (>100k miles, good luck) find a used piece or look online for a suitable aftermarket one.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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I had the same problem others are describing. I took my car in for service a couple of months ago and they did the power steering recall work. Then this week before I drove 500 miles for the holidays, the car starts making the loud power steering noise in the morning. This was the first time I heard the noise and it has happened every day since. Now I am 500 miles from home so I take it to the dealer in Louisville, KY. They looked at it and said the dealer in Richmond, VA likely did not replace the O ring but only the hose. They said I should go back to the Richmond dealer when I get home.

So has anyone been successful in going back to the dealer and get them to resolve this issue? It looks like the payment from Acura for the recall work is barely enough and the dealer is just trying to get it done quickly. It is probably going to be tough to get the dealer to admit they only did part of the recall. Any suggestions?
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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When they replaced the hose they probably didn't replace the O-ring. I had the same problem, and I bought the O-ring from Acura Dealership cost me 2 bucks then I simply replaced the O-ring took me and my cousin (who did most of the work) 5 minutes at most. I woke up this morning to a quiet pump, and it was 30 degrees. Supposedly the problem is that the old O-ring lets air in and bubbles form in the system and appear in your resevoir, turn ur car on and open the p/s reservoir if you have bubbles in there most likely its your o-ring. cost of repair 2 dollars and 5 min of your time.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mAC4rmthebACkoftheAC
When they replaced the hose they probably didn't replace the O-ring. I had the same problem, and I bought the O-ring from Acura Dealership cost me 2 bucks then I simply replaced the O-ring took me and my cousin (who did most of the work) 5 minutes at most. I woke up this morning to a quiet pump, and it was 30 degrees. Supposedly the problem is that the old O-ring lets air in and bubbles form in the system and appear in your resevoir, turn ur car on and open the p/s reservoir if you have bubbles in there most likely its your o-ring. cost of repair 2 dollars and 5 min of your time.
I've got bubbled and whirring. Just started noticing it as the weather has been getting colder.

Don't really feel like shelling out $300 for a power steering pump at the moment if the problem isn't the pump itself. Could you give a bit more detail as far as which o-ring you replaced?



Thanks!
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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mAC4rmthebACkoftheAC is right about the O-ring taking care of the noise, due to air being introduced into the system (assuming that is the specific noise that you are indeed hearing).

The O-ring he bought and replaced is part #13 on the diagram. It SHOULD have been replaced when the recall was done, as it comes with every recall kit. The old ones are black, the new ones are orange.

Bolt #18 is all that you have to remove to replace the O-ring. It's a 10mm.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Unhappy Steering Hose Recall Problems

Hi All,

This is the exact same problem that I have right now. Got the steering hose recall done and since then there was this clunking noise everytime the steering moved in either direction. Took the car back to another dealership since I had moved and they said the other dealer did not do the job correctly. The old dealership sent the hose to the current dealer and they replaced the hose.

Things got much better but still there was a noise sometimes. I got my car serviced for a B type at the same dealership and asked them to check the noise again. This time the dealer says that the steering pump has to be replaced and and the same old stuff.

I have started to notice that my car makes the same sound that of a vaccum specially in the mornings. The recall has bascially screwed up everything and so much time has already been waisted.

Has anyone found a way out from this situation. If so, please write your experience. I do not want to spend 675$ quoted by the dealer for the steering pump.

Advise from all is welcome.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedGuy
I have started to notice that my car makes the same sound that of a vaccum specially in the mornings. The recall has bascially screwed up everything and so much time has already been waisted.

Has anyone found a way out from this situation. If so, please write your experience. I do not want to spend 675$ quoted by the dealer for the steering pump.
Perhaps the dealership(s) forgot to change out the O-ring, which can result in air getting into the PS system.
Check out this thread, esp. the posts at the end: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/04-tl-5at-power-steering-whine-695741/

G/L!
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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Talking Thanks everyone

Hi everyone,

Here is what I did. As suggested by a lot of people, I took my car back to the dealership and after a lot of talking got them into replacing the Power steering pump for which they further consulted the Acura Markeeting guy on the situation.

After getting the PS pump the car is perfectly fine with no noise.

Thanks everyone for all the good advise.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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+1 on the PS pumps being shyt.

I've gone through 2 already and during the colder / winter seasons, it always acts up and always has a tiny-tiny-tiny small leak around that top part of the steering pump assembly. I'll have to check the o-ring to see if I'm upgraded to the orange.

Definitely get the PS hose recall done. I had mine leak prior to the whole recall ordeal and had to do a last minute MacGyver high-temp tape job to last long enough to get my car to the service shop. You definitely do not want power steering fluid to leak on a hot engine.

Also, if I remember from my Helms manual with regards to air getting into the system, if you turn your steering wheel from lock-to-lock positions, I believe there's an air release valve that's supposed to engage to rid your system of that cavitation.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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Does anyone know if the 2007 TLS is included in the recall of the power steering hose? Seems strange they would use a different hose.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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I have a 2008 TL. I purchased it used about a month ago and the dealer told me that there are no recalls on the car??? Was the power steering hose problem fix or was the dealership not sharing all information.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, the power steering hose recall is only for 04-06.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Davor519
I have a 2008 TL. I purchased it used about a month ago and the dealer told me that there are no recalls on the car??? Was the power steering hose problem fix or was the dealership not sharing all information.
Better check the recall notices to see if your TL's VIN is in the recall range. You can check the TSB thread for TSB 08-016 to see if your VIN is included.
Originally Posted by skd2k1
If I'm not mistaken, the power steering hose recall is only for 04-06.
You're mistaken.
The recall encompasses 04-08 model years: see towards the middle of the page for TSB 08-016 on the power steering recall: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553557; or check the TSB thread for the actual TSB.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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My 2008 TL VIN Not in recall?

I have a 2008 TL with 53k miles with the exact same power steering hose leak issue. Read the recall bulletin, and took it back to the dealership. They told me that my 2008 TL VIN# wasn’t on the recall list, and it will cost $450 to have it fixed

They said the design was changed and a heat shield was added to the hose. My VIN# wasn’t included because I had the mod. I told them that mine didn’t have a heat shield on it. So they got my old one out of the trash which didn’t have the shield, and looked at the new installed one which has one. So they said they will call Acura corp to see if they would cover it. Haven’t paid anything yet. Have to wait and see what happens next.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Happy camper

Acura came through, and covered 95% of the cost of the hose replacement.
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Is it just me, or is this thread in the completely wrong section? Looks like since its creation it has been in the audio section.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
Is it just me, or is this thread in the completely wrong section? Looks like since its creation it has been in the audio section.
weird...I don't remember posting this thread in the electronics section?!
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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One of the mods must have been on a bender last night and fucked shit up.

damn this thread is old.. I haven't posted here in 3 years.
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