caligirl2k

Im thinking about increasing my horsepower so what's better to get a Turbo Kit or Supercharger? What's the pros & cons. All info would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Blazing GT

I belive there is no TURBOCHARGER for the TL

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

thats why you custom build it..

or just but he 98-02 accord V6 one and do some modification to it or something like that.

fsttyms1

I like the SC and the simplicity of it. I also like the sound of the Roots style SC's

black label

In terms of pros and cons.....
A SC is driven by the engine, it takes some power away to make more power in the end. The benefit would be that you get boost instantly.

A TC is driven by exhaust back pressure. It doesn't take any of the existing engine power to run it however, you have to deal with "turbo lag". Turbo lag is the time it takes before you have enough pressure from the exhaust to spin the turbo effeciently and get the boost to the engine.

I like a turbo myself. I like the surge of power they produce when the turbo gets spooled up. The biggest problem you will run into with a turbo is that there isn't one available for our cars and you would have to do a custom job.

acitydweller

which is better for what? speed from stand still? high end power? fuel economy? amazingly people respond to incomplete questions.

TL|GTX

Honestly there both horrible for fuel economy.

fsttyms1

And why is that? When not boosting (normal driving) you arent causing it to cause worse mileage.

bibledriver

Normal driving, I have a friend who actually gained economy with a SC. Turbos are a bit funky to drive normal due to turbo surge. You have to start with moderate throttle, then back off when it is hitting.

02type-s

try again

MurdaZ

iTrader: (1)

turbo, i just dont like the whine of a sc, plus the way a turbo looks in the engine bay is sick..

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

i don't kno why.. but..

jumbosizeme79

does anyone here on az have a tc TL?

rob-2

Can our already iffy tranny handle more power/

mcflyguy24

Not me though...A few people on here have the comptech S/C.

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

yes? and no?

jumbosizeme79

yea i kno plenty w. sc, but havent seen any tc

black label

I think the closest thing you'll find is ThinJim who had an insane TC CL-S. It was a custom build for a CL-S 6MT.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

No, if you have your foot in it all the time perhaps. My S/C'd CLS-6 gets 28-29 mpg at 75-80 mph consistently on the highway (where I spend most of my time). Knock 1-1.5 mpg off that with the A/C blasting.

I only have the HBP, Mugen cooling mods, lightweight drive pulley and a CSF #3011 aluminium radiator (which is slightly larger than stock). Even in the horrible S. Florida heat during stop-and-go traffic the car gets resonable city mileage, though I have to admit I don't track that.

With the investment, boost can be your friend with level headed driving.

FirePR2002

For me, this is the delta. I had an 07 RDX as a loaner when I had my tranny replaced (or SRS repaired) and I couldn't stay out of the turbo - zipping around traffic and such. I loved the additional power so much - granted it was a novelty / toy that I had for a short period of time and I got terrible mileage, although this was compared to the TL and not another RDX as I had no other baseline for comparison. Admittedly, this was not a fair comparison though.

dnd2984

iTrader: (6)

trade the TL in and the money that was gonna go towards the TC or SC use as a down on a TL Type S

MurkyRiversTL

screw both of those, and go for the leaf blower....

bibledriver

What, a scooter?

bibledriver

Then we'll just want more. MORE. GIMMIE MORE.

03aspec

You guys are hilarious, turbo charging and supercharging a family sedan... sounds like some of you have lost your marbles . But i think I'm on the right track,










ohh ya, SUPERCHARGER FTW!

jumbosizeme79

lol with a pack of nos!

IlovemyAcura

Ok one....TL isnt Family you want family go get a buick

2 get a supercharger

turbo's arent that great.

gorne

dont know but u can find info for sure if u go at 35th ave and union hills late evening. east of fletchers.

fsttyms1

Yes. There are a few TLs (one or 2 members that have been banned) and a few CLs with them.

Station

hahaha that is the best thing i have seen yet. and why were those members with the TC banned? i would go TC i love the way they sound and you could custom build one for cheaper than a SC

Sweet07TL-S

Which one is better? That depends on what yuo're looking for.

Roots Style S/C- I had one of these on my 03 Cobra. These make full boost right off of red line. As soon as you matt the gas pedal you get full boost. I personally loved this fact. They also have a really cool whine from the blower. These respond great to simple mods. The easiest one is changing the blower pulley. Using a smaller pulley from the Lightning gives you an additional 3psi of boost.

Centrifugal S/C (vortech, paxton, prochager)- I had one of these on my 98 Mustang GT. These take time to build boost. Not much, but the amount of boost being made depends on the engine rpm's. The more rpm's you spin the more boost you will make until you reach the blower's limit or max out rpms. These are more difficult to mod, but once done they respond well. To mod these you usually have to make echanges inside the blower housing itself.

Turbo- I don't know crap about these. I've never had one or even been in a car with one. Hear them a million times at the racetrack. They sound bad ass.

All three definitely kill your gas mileage, because you won't be able to stay off the go fast pedal.

sbuswell

if I had a SC my gas mileage would go down big time because I would not drive like a granny. I'd be pushing the pedal down hard multiple times every time I took my car for a drive. Alas, I still want one.

ssmtl2nv

iTrader: (2)

I just got my tl back and I used 1/2 tank a gas just fuckin around, but the speed was tempting...

sbuswell

I assume you just got a SC put on. Must be lovin' it. Do you have any other mods?

6MTUA5

iTrader: (2)

SC will give you power at all RPMs and TC has to build it up.
TC can be fine tuned more.

phee

iTrader: (5)

i hope we can get specs.. im pretty bummed that all the azine members who get turbos dnt want to help anybody else with building one. if they would just give the piping lengths/diameters. theyw could save others 1000$ of dollars..

/rant

im just sad because i went to an underground race meet last night and i was the only one without a turbo

6MTUA5

iTrader: (2)

You couldn't be any more wrong. Joe's making a complete DIY for the turbo install. When he's done with his, he is putting together a bunch of kits for the TL.

phee

iTrader: (5)

joe is banned. he was my last hope

bibledriver

Surely, being banned doesn't mean he is no longer a part of modding his TL

CL Platano

Yeah its funny you say that I saw a thread a while ago someone said he is putting together XSPower kits for the TL and I asked the dude at XSPower and he no clue about a J32 kit. I'm installing the XSPower kit on my GS and I had questions about my turbo kit so I just mentioned the TL kit to this guy. So XSPower doesn't have any plans on making a turbo kit for the TL/CL. You can customize a kit for a reasonable price around 2k just in parts but the key to turbo is your tuner, if you got a wack tuner your turbo install is useless.

Supercharger is pretty much plug and play but you are capped on horsepower compared to turbo. Regardless with each of these I wouldnt put it on an auto tranny, thats why I sold mine cause I wanted more power, rwd, and no tranny issues.