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Possible to replace navigation with standard climate controls?
I recently picked up an ‘02 TL-P with navigation, but the navigation screen is ruined. It looks like peeling plastic behind the screen. Since the system is outdated anyway, is it possible just to take out the screen and install the basic climate controls? I already have all the parts needed from the junkyard.
I looked at this for my 2001. My Navi works but it's not worth updating. I looked at the Non-Navi complete dash and it seems plug and play as long as you have the right switches. You would also need the non-Navi storage tray to fill the gap where the current climate control dash is located.
I looked at this for my 2001. My Navi works but it's not worth updating. I looked at the Non-Navi complete dash and it seems plug and play as long as you have the right switches. You would also need the non-Navi storage tray to fill the gap where the current climate control dash is located.
Post back with before and after pics!
Once my AV6 tranny swap is complete I’ll tackle this project, I’ll post pics of it works.
Hey CL-Slick, let me know how that goes! I'm thinking of going the other way around, '99 TL-P non-NAVI to NAVI for that sweet screenspace.
You said the AC control board has the same connectors in both the NAVI and non-NAVI models?
Honestly I'm down. I can't give you the CD tray thing because mine has switches installed in it and I'm sure you don't it, but the bezel and climate controls I'm more than down to pull out and shop.
I know people have gone non-nav to nag, but I’ve never seen anyone go the route I want. I have all of the parts for the swap already, I’m just waiting until my tranny swap is done and the car is running right before I start on the interior projects. I’ve also got type-s black wood to go in after it’s all done. As cheap as the used screen is I’m tempted just to throw one of those in there.
I started looking for the best place to find it for the least amount possible.
Long story short:
Downloaded the LKQ pick your part app
Configured the garage portion of the app to include the 99-03 Acura TL with push notifications set to ON when a car shows up in the nearby yards
Picked up a navi screen for about $25
Of course the condition of parts varies, but with a little patience I definitely found what i was looking for and was able to do it relatively inexpensive.
I recently picked up an ‘02 TL-P with navigation, but the navigation screen is ruined. It looks like peeling plastic behind the screen. Since the system is outdated anyway, is it possible just to take out the screen and install the basic climate controls? I already have all the parts needed from the junkyard.
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This will not work.. just tried, two plugs,, one will work the other will not!
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This will not work.. just tried, two plugs,, one will work the other will not!
it is a pretty direct swap, I don't know what this guy is talking about. the hazard button needs to be moved so extending that wire is the only "modification".
On that note, I'm selling my kit to transform any non-Navi 2nd gen TL to a Navi model - like what sfw posted, and what you can find in my post history.
Know this is kind of old, but I was looking into doing this too. Just wanted to confirm that everything is basically plug and play except for extending the hazard switch wiring as well as finding a way to rewire the clock. If this is all I need, anyone know which wires I need for the clock?
The clock just needs +12v and ground, if I recall correctly. The hazard switch is a different shape between the Navi / non-Navi dashboards but the plug is identical. I didn't have to extend it for my non-Navi to Navi swap.
The Navi hazard button is on the left of the screen. The non-Navi is on the right of the climate controls.
When I looked into this (didn't end up doing it), the hazard "extension" was the only mod needed. I don't recall anything about the clock.
The Navi also has a separate control panel for the auto function for the climate control just above the radio. In the non-Navi, this is a storage compartment.
The swap was a success on my TL, unfortunately it recently got totaled. I just picked up a CL-S 6-Speed with a bad nav so I’ll be doing the swap again. The only wiring I had to do was to extend the hazard harness, as stated above. I never messed with trying to make the clock work though.
Thanks man, I was all good, just sick about my TL. Even though it was just a Premium, I had lots of work into it and it was my favorite car. I’m enjoying the 6-Speed CL-S now though!
I just wanted to thank everyone for making this thread. I just finished the navi to non-navi climate control conversion on my '03 TL and it went great.
The navigation system was really outdated and it had that notorious screen tearing so it was really hard to see the AC controls on the screen.
I purchased the non-navi dash trim and storage tray on eBay and I also purchased an Alpine ILX-650 to upgrade the antique radio along with American International ACU-K862 Dash Kit,Metra 70-1721 Wiring Harness,
AXXES ASWC-1 for steering wheel controls, brake bypass adapter from eBay, and lastly a subwoofer retention adapter from mobilemaxcaraudio to keep stock subwoofer.
I highly recommend the Alpine ILX-650, so far I really like the radio. It has a really sleek design, interface is very easy to use, and so far I have not had a single issue with it.
Another benefit to this conversion is that you can remove the CD changer from the trunk freeing up cargo space. You can't remove it if you have the navigation system as it kills power to the navigation.
The only modification needed is to extend the hazard light switch, I ended up cutting the wires and used Wago connectors to extend the wires. Why in the world does a single hazard switch need 8 wires is beyond me lol.
The clock wiring is:
Black = Ground
White/Red = Constant
Yellow = Ignition
Red/Black = Illumination
Red = Dimmer
I wired the clock to my upgraded Alpine ILX-650 radio. It appears you can wire the clock to the AC connector but I didn't want to mess with the AC wiring as I live in Florida.
The only unusual thing with the clock wiring is that the yellow is the ignition and the white/red is the constant. I originally wired the yellow to the constant and
the white/red to the red ignition wire but the clock would turn off and lose the time setting every time I would turn the ignition off so I switched the wires and the clock is now working great.
12-30-2018, 01:16 AM
