Possible to replace navigation with standard climate controls?
I recently picked up an ‘02 TL-P with navigation, but the navigation screen is ruined. It looks like peeling plastic behind the screen. Since the system is outdated anyway, is it possible just to take out the screen and install the basic climate controls? I already have all the parts needed from the junkyard. |
I looked at this for my 2001. My Navi works but it's not worth updating. I looked at the Non-Navi complete dash and it seems plug and play as long as you have the right switches. You would also need the non-Navi storage tray to fill the gap where the current climate control dash is located.
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Originally Posted by Saudade
(Post 16357431)
I looked at this for my 2001. My Navi works but it's not worth updating. I looked at the Non-Navi complete dash and it seems plug and play as long as you have the right switches. You would also need the non-Navi storage tray to fill the gap where the current climate control dash is located.
Post back with before and after pics!
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
(Post 16357449)
OP, why not just... https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Acura-...-/153312377239
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I'm also replacing the factory radio with a double-din I removed from my old CL-S, so the voice options won't wok with my new headunit.
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Hey CL-Slick, let me know how that goes! I'm thinking of going the other way around, '99 TL-P non-NAVI to NAVI for that sweet screenspace.
You said the AC control board has the same connectors in both the NAVI and non-NAVI models? |
Swap parts, you guys!
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Honestly I'm down. I can't give you the CD tray thing because mine has switches installed in it and I'm sure you don't it, but the bezel and climate controls I'm more than down to pull out and shop.
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I know people have gone non-nav to nag, but I’ve never seen anyone go the route I want. I have all of the parts for the swap already, I’m just waiting until my tranny swap is done and the car is running right before I start on the interior projects. I’ve also got type-s black wood to go in after it’s all done. As cheap as the used screen is I’m tempted just to throw one of those in there. |
Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
(Post 16358048)
Swap parts, you guys!
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I had the same problem with my navi screen.
I knew I wanted to keep my screen though. So.... I started looking for the best place to find it for the least amount possible. Long story short:
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Changing nav screen to standard climate control.
Originally Posted by CL-Slick
(Post 16357099)
I recently picked up an ‘02 TL-P with navigation, but the navigation screen is ruined. It looks like peeling plastic behind the screen. Since the system is outdated anyway, is it possible just to take out the screen and install the basic climate controls? I already have all the parts needed from the junkyard. This will not work.. just tried, two plugs,, one will work the other will not! |
Originally Posted by Lakebum 1245
(Post 16760762)
This will not work.. just tried, two plugs,, one will work the other will not! https://imgur.com/a/YC4Wsmz in that album you'll see I went from oem nav, tablet on nav screen, single din, double din, non nav, to nav with ac relocation. |
On that note, I'm selling my kit to transform any non-Navi 2nd gen TL to a Navi model - like what sfw posted, and what you can find in my post history.
https://m.imgur.com/a/3M3Il4p ^picture of my kit and all the parts that come with it. I'll post on the marketplace tomorrow or early next week, but hit me in a PM if you're interested. |
Know this is kind of old, but I was looking into doing this too. Just wanted to confirm that everything is basically plug and play except for extending the hazard switch wiring as well as finding a way to rewire the clock. If this is all I need, anyone know which wires I need for the clock?
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The clock just needs +12v and ground, if I recall correctly. The hazard switch is a different shape between the Navi / non-Navi dashboards but the plug is identical. I didn't have to extend it for my non-Navi to Navi swap.
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The Navi hazard button is on the left of the screen. The non-Navi is on the right of the climate controls.
When I looked into this (didn't end up doing it), the hazard "extension" was the only mod needed. I don't recall anything about the clock. The Navi also has a separate control panel for the auto function for the climate control just above the radio. In the non-Navi, this is a storage compartment. |
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I recall seeing that before, just couldn't remember where. Thanks!
I now recall the clock was not an issue since the new head unit I would have used had a clock. When you extend the Hazard, soldering with heat shrink would be much cleaner and less prone to problems down the road. |
The swap was a success on my TL, unfortunately it recently got totaled. I just picked up a CL-S 6-Speed with a bad nav so I’ll be doing the swap again. The only wiring I had to do was to extend the hazard harness, as stated above. I never messed with trying to make the clock work though.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you're OK.
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Originally Posted by Saudade
(Post 16879378)
Sorry to hear that. Hope you're OK.
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I just wanted to thank everyone for making this thread. I just finished the navi to non-navi climate control conversion on my '03 TL and it went great.
The navigation system was really outdated and it had that notorious screen tearing so it was really hard to see the AC controls on the screen. I purchased the non-navi dash trim and storage tray on eBay and I also purchased an Alpine ILX-650 to upgrade the antique radio along with American International ACU-K862 Dash Kit, Metra 70-1721 Wiring Harness, AXXES ASWC-1 for steering wheel controls, brake bypass adapter from eBay, and lastly a subwoofer retention adapter from mobilemaxcaraudio to keep stock subwoofer. I highly recommend the Alpine ILX-650, so far I really like the radio. It has a really sleek design, interface is very easy to use, and so far I have not had a single issue with it. Another benefit to this conversion is that you can remove the CD changer from the trunk freeing up cargo space. You can't remove it if you have the navigation system as it kills power to the navigation. The only modification needed is to extend the hazard light switch, I ended up cutting the wires and used Wago connectors to extend the wires. Why in the world does a single hazard switch need 8 wires is beyond me lol. The clock wiring is: Black = Ground White/Red = Constant Yellow = Ignition Red/Black = Illumination Red = Dimmer I wired the clock to my upgraded Alpine ILX-650 radio. It appears you can wire the clock to the AC connector but I didn't want to mess with the AC wiring as I live in Florida. The only unusual thing with the clock wiring is that the yellow is the ignition and the white/red is the constant. I originally wired the yellow to the constant and the white/red to the red ignition wire but the clock would turn off and lose the time setting every time I would turn the ignition off so I switched the wires and the clock is now working great. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...7365d5d06b.jpg |
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