cM3go

I went to get my TL washed at the dealer so I thought I would take another opportunity to play with the 05 TL. I know the 05 RL comes with Large 4 piston calipers in the front, but are they brembos? I took the time to look at both the 05 TL brosure and the 05 RL brosure and noticed something interesting. On the 05 TL, it says Brembo brake caliper, where on the 05 RL it says 4-piston caliper, with no brembo notation, did they switch brands? or did Acura develop they're own caliper for the RL?

EmuMessenger

As I understand things, the RL brakes are Acura designed, not Brembo.

DEI99662

I checked Acura's site and it had nothing on Brembo brakes on the 2005 RL.

http://www.acura.com/models/model_sp....asp?module=rl

PoochaKannInc

Yup. That is what I've heard also.

I just wish that if they were going to design brakes that perhaps the front and rear calipers would also match. Is it going to cost that much more to make sure the rear calipers are powdercoated black? Not really a performance issue, just an aesthetic one.

EmuMessenger

at $50k, I do not think it would matter if their cost was an extra $100 or the customer's cost was an extra $100.

Maybe next year.

cM3go

I kinda like the RL caliper better than our 6MT caliper

JackSprat01

I'd be interested in hearing if RL owners get less break dust with the Acura brakes. Our Brembos are sweet, but gush nastiness everywhere. Perhaps this little issue was too bothersome to subject the RL owners to hmmmm???????? Come on, you know I'm onto something here!

cM3go

being an AWD system on the new RL, I'm surprised they didn't put larger calipers all around

Linnley

The RL did the worst in the 70mph-0 Brake Test....it also got 3rd in the G's test....maybe the TIRES are the problem - not the brakes???

justinjsw

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...51&postcount=3

eaRL

The brakes on the RL are manufactured by Advics Co. Ltd., a subsidiary of Sumitomo Electric Automotive, that designs and manufactures brake systems and components. They have operations in the U.S., Japan, Thailand, Indonesia and China.

chuck abbott

My 02 TL S had poor brakes (warping and too long a distance to stop). Coming down mountain passes here in Colorado it would start to judder with what I would consider normal usage. I traded for a BMW X3 and never had this problem. I was hoping my 05 RL would have the Brembo brakes. I am wondering if they can be retrofitted with the 06 Brembo's? Any one have a thought on this?

RL06tech

The RL as explained above does not use brembos. The brakes are good but are fade prone. Compared to my TL's brembos I can safely attest that for "enthusiastic driving" the brembos were significantly better.

Rich in NC

I would guess the fading is much more a product of available cooling and pad material than the difference between Brembo and Oem.

Rich in NC

The X3 has a better air routing for cooling. Devise an air duct srategy and use higher temperature pads. You will be better off. The brakes themselves have precious little to do with heat rise. Heat is what causes fade.

Rich in NC

I hate brake tests in magazines. They have little to do with real world performance.

Most brake test are performed on cars with nearly new pads that haven't been seated properly or pads that have been so glazed over that they have no stopping power left.

I'll leave the car magazine's name out of it but a couple of "enginneers" from the magazine were testing, at the time, the new Z06 Vette at Gingerman. One of the tests was a 0 to 80 stopping time. This was after the 2 of them had abused the brakes to the point you could smell them from a mile away. The numbers were still somewhat respectable but longer than any other Vette we tried with the same proceedure that was at the track that night. 2 months later we saw the test with the not so hot burnt up pad numbers with a comment that the stopping power was a bit disappointing! Even after we pointed out it wasn't a fair test!

As a side note both of these "car guys" butchered their drives around the track. Neither had a clue on driving the right lines or throttle and braking. It now makes me read most reviews with a grain of salt. Some "experts"

gavine

My OEM pads on my '06 RL seem to be great in terms of brake dust. My Audi A4 was awful. The wheels needed to be cleaned daily on that thing.

In terms of fade, once that starts to happen it might be time to change the brake fluid. The owner's manual recommends it anyway. Brake fluid absorbs water from the atmosphere and water is more "compressable" than brake fluid so it makes them feel spongy. Also, water has a much lower boiling point so old fluid is prone to boil under extreme conditions such as decending a mountain.

The job is simple with a $15 one-man bleeder kit. Takes about the same time as changing the oil and in most cars you can do it without taking the wheels off.

gdevine

My Audi A6 is also horrible when it comes to brake dust, especially the fronts. They turn black in about 2 days. I was just telling my wife how the RL throws very little if any brake dust or at least is not visible.

Rich in NC

I would guess the RL uses ceramic pads with a compund color that is not conspicuous. Not the best for stopping but they can be quiet and hide dust.

RL06tech

I bet you are right. They really don't make any dust and are quiet. Surprisingly the bremboes on the TL were not too dirty (but dirtier) but were quiet. They had great fade resistance and ferocious braking power. The only brakes I have experienced to be better than the TL's brembos were on a 911.

bennetthall

This is an interesting thread looking back from 2015 to this - I am at the dealer with my 2005 RL and the dealers says that the larger Brembos are OEM on this model, whereas some above are saying otherwise - and not all likely the Brembo vs other pads for example...

hmmmm

BDoggPrelude

Wow. The last time somebody posted in this thread, G.W. was still president. Lol.

No, the RL brakes are not made by Brembo. They are made by Advics, IIRC.

oo7spy

The dealers seem to use "Brembo" to indicate big brake kits the way people use "Kleenex" to indicate tissues.

HEAVY_RL

iTrader: (1)

I'll leave this here:

Aftermarket

andrewmr

I know this is a very old post but I have to comment in case someone is now reading this as it was bumped.

It's not that water is more compressible than brake fluid, rather the water boils at a much lower temperature than brake fluid and once it boils then the gas can be compressed which creates the problem.

Put a decent pad on the car and it will stop much better than the OEM pad.

Tpalmer

I am going through this now. I brought my 2005 RL to the mechanic and he said I need calipers, only brembo calipers can go on it. Which I thought was only on TL's. So I called the Acura dealer and they said it is a necessity to have Brembo calipers on a 2005 RL. I'm so confused now!! is it or not?

justnspace

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Brembo's are a brand name for a Big Brake Kit
Kind of like NOS is the brand name of Nitrous

so, what is happening is people are throwing around the word Brembo's and confusing it for a BBK
it happens all the time.

the RL has a brand of Big Brake calipers called Advics
Advics and Brembos are BRAND NAMES! and they are both Big Brake Calipers

instead of calling it by the brand names, call it by its part # and you will never get confused

Tpalmer

I've been told I need Brembo calipers for my 2005 RL. I thought this was only for TL's??

justnspace

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p.s. I didnt even have to explain all that because everything i typed out...is in the posts above.

you simply did not read.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

you didnt have to make a seperate thread on your question that I answered, that has been answered 10 million times...


Brembo is a brand name for big brake calipers.
the RL has a Big Brake kit that is made by Advics.

people throw the Brand names around like its the actual object. IT IS NOT!
Kleenex is a brand of Tissue!
Brembo is a brand of big brakes!
Advics is a brand of big brakes!
NOS is a brand of Nitrous!
Charmin is a brand of bath Tissue!

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

if you go by part #, it will solve everything!
all you need to know and or give is
Driver side:45019-SJA-A02passenger side: 45018-SJA-A02

oo7spy

Threads merged. Do a search. Read the content. Don't make duplicate threads. It's in the rules. Read those too.

Tpalmer

My apologies I am new to this. I didn't realize it was a duplicate. No need to get nasty! But, thanks for the info!

justnspace

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sorry, wasnt intending to sound nasty. tone doesnt carry well through text..

cib16waker

I just reread this. You actually take your Acura TL from 10 years ago to the dealer to get washed? Are you serious?

oo7spy

When you read a post, you should also read the date in the top left corner.

You're lucky this is be nice to s week.

cib16waker

I barely get any brake dust with my carbon ceramics and powerstop rotors. Acura calipers are more than enough for me

ovcegon

Hello Everyone,

I tried to search what are the original brake pads , front and rear, on Acura RL 2nd Gen.

As everybody here suggest, so far I found that most likely they are Advics brake pads:
rear - AD1090
front - AD1091
The reason I am writing is that no one pointed what part# or model they are.
Can someone confirm that these are the right model numbers for our cars?

Thank you,
Paul

oo7spy

I can't say that anyone ever tried to buy the Advics outside of the dealer. Kind of wondering why you would want to.

Rockauto confirms that AD1090 is indeed the rear. They do not list a front part number from Advics though. The fronts definitely are Advics, they just don't have them in their list.

2006 ACURA RL 3.5L V6 Brake Pad | RockAuto

TonyCD

I think the calipers on the RL are pretty damn big. More than big enough for even enthusiastic street driving.

When the RL came out, Acura had magazine writers try out the car on a track because that's where SH-AWD showed to best advantage. I don't recall anyone complaining about brake fade. C/D in a comparision test flogged the car hard enough to bottom it out, and they didn't say a peep about fade either, saying "the readable brake pedal delivers strong, stable retardation." So, yes, I'd suspect the tires rather than the brakes.

On the other hand, I congratulate those who haven't experienced brake dust. I get plenty of it, especially on the fronts, and it's as dark as the usual brake dust. I've heard that carbon-ceramic brake pads are available for the RL (Akebono, if memory serves) that allay this issue considerably, but they're not factory issue. Lots of wheel cleaning here.