Acc20yrs

Hi everyone, is it me or do these new digital odometers pile up the miles quicker?? Any thoughts??

hondu

I would say it is just you. A mile is a mile, no matter how you measure it.

justnspace

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^

Acc20yrs

Could it be possible (since its all electronic) for the manufacturer to finnagle with it to have you come in for service more often and thus make more money off of you? I know it sounds weird but anything's possible I've seen weirder things than that hahaha

hondu

Could it be possible that you are just paranoid over nothing? I still stand by my earlier post.

justnspace

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great thread is great!

Majofo

OP is correct.. they round up the fraction of each trip. Say you do weekend errands.. you make ten stops, instead of 20 miles, the ODO reads 21 miles. I mean just think about it.. you drive to work, do an errand on the way home, drive home, then skirt around town during the weekend. Your ODO could be off ~10... 20 miles a month. After one year of ownership, 200 miles! I mean, after 15 years, that's an extra oil change and filter change. It's a fucking conspiracy!!!

hondu

Well maybe more like 25 years, since you can easily go 5000 miles between oil changes.

Acc20yrs

Yeah you are right, thanks

Acc20yrs

hahahhaha thanks I needed the laugh!!

rockstar143

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You sound like one of the anti smart meter people I deal with at work...

Also, look into:
flu shots
effects of EMF
ethanol being added to fuel
all things Obama

Majofo

On the real though, Honda/Acura has admitted to inaccurate ODOs reading up to 4%, possibly more. After a class action suit, they bumped warranties and lease limits by 5%.

rockstar143

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Wow, really?
Shoulda learned their pythagorean theorem, man!

mrgold35

I was notified on a TSB for my 06 TSX about the odo reading incorrectly up. The just extended my basic warranty to cover the % of mis-read to 52,000 or 53,000 miles by the odo (can't remember). I was at 55,000 miles when I found out. My 06 now has 111,000 miles on the odo; but, it could only have 105,000.

Acc20yrs

hondu

Yes, all silliness aside, I believe all auto manufacturers actually calibrate your speedometer to read "high", so your odometer reads "high" as well.

I think Honda/Acura got slapped for going a little too far on the high side (not to mention lawyers loving class action suits). I believe when I had my '06 Civic, I received a letter saying my warranty was extended by 3%, to 37,200 miles, instead of 36,000 miles.

In the great scheme of things, nothing but bug-dust to me.

rockstar143

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from a company that had to adjust their power ratings too, this doesn't shock me to find out.

What pisses me off is I coulda waited another 8 months to do my 105K based on Majofo's calculations.

KeithL

Most car odometers overstate the MPH by 1-2% usually sometimes as high as 2 MPH, but that should not be that big of a deal.

rockstar143

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It's not...to me. Don't we fuck it up by going with different sized wheels anyway...I know the miles per hour would be off, never really thought about the effect of that on actual distance traveled in the car.

Comfy

Why is it restricted to digital odometers only. Why can't the old style mechanical / analogue ones be miscalibrated ? We won't know the difference anyway.

Acc20yrs

Yeah, both could be miscalibrated for sure. It's best not to worry about it and I would think fairly easy to tell if they are what with navigation and and maps already providing the exact mileage from point A to point B. I remember in the old days whe all cars had mechanical odo's. I guess eventually all mechanical odo's will be phased out if not already.....

ceb

Nope. The odometer and speedometer are separate. The speedometer is designed to read a bit high but the odometer is calibrated to be dead-on.

Most European countries mean the speed limit when they say speed limit and 1 kmh over the speed limit is speeding. To keep their customers from getting lots of tickets (and to account for minor variations like tire size and tire wear), manufacturers calibrated speedometers to read high.

If a manufacturer intentionally calibrated an odometer to read high, then the execs would be rotting in jail for fraud.

ceb

Wheel size doesn't change anything as long as you compensate for that with the correctly sized tire to keep the rolling diameter the same (a variance of about 1% is OK). If you intentionally change the rolling diameter (either up or down) then your car effectively becomes one with an "odometer reading cannot be verified", must be sold as such, may have the title branded and is one of the few ways to void an entire warranty.

rockstar143

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Jeez

hondu

The odometer issue must not have been intentional then, since I did not read about any Honda employee going to jail. I really like to know how someone actually determined their odometer was off by 3% and were confident enough to sue over it?

Rocket_man

If you have a navigation system you could plan a long trip and compare the nav's mileage to the odometer... assuming the nav is the 'ground truth' it would be pretty easy to see a difference. There would be some error due to which lane you are in etc... but over a long distance that may average out.

hondu

I'm sure there is some +/- error in the distance traveled on a nav system as well. It is not like it is a calibrated NIST standard. I imagine Honda could have just settled so as not to have to deal with a trial jury and lengthy litigation.