MP90 supercharger retrofitted to the MP62 Comptech Kit

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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MP90 supercharger retrofitted to the MP62 Comptech Kit

These are some pics of the MP90 retrofitted to the MP62 parts from comptech. All of it is done I just need to have it tuned with the emanage ultimate with boomslang harness and 440 RC injectors at 9psi. I will be using the stock FPR. I should have some numbers for you guys/gals in December or January. The lower output collector is all that had to be modified with extensive aluminum welding. I figured some of you were probably curious since I have been talking about it. Jim













































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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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I will take more later these are just what I had on the computer. I have since had the bypass valve relocated to the other side like on the comptech kit and completed the rest of the kit. I also machined down that lip on the blower where it was touching the EGR valve. there is now about 2-3mm of clearance.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Looks badass!

Can't wait to see what this bad boy produces!!
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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i guess we'll have to see what kind of #'s it puts out as compared to a turbo setup though. how much is an MP90?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Job shit Jim, I remember when you were explaining this to me a month ago, I didnt know what you were talking about till now. lol
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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nice work
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 02:55 AM
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Funny posted pics

Look great!
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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damn Jim, you went through with it huh? Seeing that wrench brings back good times. How come you're contemplating on selling the car (your sig)?

You do the custom welding yourself? I wouldn't be surprised if you did

Stay in touch, bro

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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Ever thought about mass producing these? Because I would be VERY interested in purchasing one. :3
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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Great project and good execution so far. You'll have to consider a water intercooler as 9 psi probably will be too much for the motor to handle without some sort of cooling of the air charge. It will detonate! An alternative to this would be methanol injection. Way back when, scalbert made 370whp with the mp62 at about 9psi, you may be able to get that much at a slightly lower psi. He also had the TB enlarged. Very nice!
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Very nice work so far. Can't wait to see the numbers.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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A little added info for those of you going to attempt this

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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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my god, I didn't realize it was this much bigger
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
Great project and good execution so far. You'll have to consider a water intercooler as 9 psi probably will be too much for the motor to handle without some sort of cooling of the air charge. It will detonate! An alternative to this would be methanol injection. Way back when, scalbert made 370whp with the mp62 at about 9psi, you may be able to get that much at a slightly lower psi. He also had the TB enlarged. Very nice!
This is probably true. I am thinking from talks with the engineers at Magnuson that since the RPM will be changing on the blower from ~17,500 at redline with the MP62 to ~12,500rpm with the MP90 the Intake air temps should drop dramaticaly at redline since the air isnt "getting the shit beaten out of it" to make 9psi. I am going to try it at 9Psi and see what happens. If there is detonation I cant eleminate with fuel I will go to 7psi and leave it at that. I have the best tuner in the region doing the work so I am very comfortable it will be done right.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nbennettksu
my god, I didn't realize it was this much bigger
that's what she said

but i hope someone's taking notes on this
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Hmm...you're doing this now too? Good job.
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that's what she said

but i hope someone's taking notes on this



























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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jproy
This is probably true. I am thinking from talks with the engineers at Magnuson that since the RPM will be changing on the blower from ~17,500 at redline with the MP62 to ~12,500rpm with the MP90 the Intake air temps should drop dramaticaly at redline since the air isnt "getting the shit beaten out of it" to make 9psi. I am going to try it at 9Psi and see what happens. If there is detonation I cant eleminate with fuel I will go to 7psi and leave it at that. I have the best tuner in the region doing the work so I am very comfortable it will be done right.
Who are you going to get it tuned?
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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this is the info we need........ thanks.....
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Very cool, glad to see this occuring. I always felt the M90 would have been a better bet with this vehicle.

The blower will certainly be in a more efficient range to where I would suspect about a 50 - 75 F drop in charge temp at nearly 9 PSI. At that point you may get away with just running it a little rich up top.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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hell yeah, scalbert is back.
Nice to see you are here. Once again, it is great seeing so many familiar names.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Scalbert, Long time no see!!! I saw you were back making posts. Thanks for the props. Its great to get input from people like you and ThinJim. I really hope to see a significant drop in the intake temps at the top end. If it gets crazy up there I will look toward an intercooler but we will have to see. Anyone who can do simple math can see I could have already bought a nice turbo system for what I have into this. Its different and no one else has done it yet on this car.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Scalbert, anyone, I know it wont make much of a difference on the FI motor but did you ever P&p your upper intake manifold UIM and port match your lower runners. I have done the UIM but not the Lower runners. I thing there may be some gains for even the FI people with the port match of the lower runners. They look awful from the factory casts.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CG2PROJECT
Who are you going to get it tuned?
I am taking it to Jotech in Dallas probably in December or January. I have talked with them quite a bit and they are on top of it.
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Originally Posted by jproy
Scalbert, anyone, I know it wont make much of a difference on the FI motor but did you ever P&p your upper intake manifold UIM and port match your lower runners. I have done the UIM but not the Lower runners. I thing there may be some gains for even the FI people with the port match of the lower runners. They look awful from the factory casts.
You mean like this:

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Wow! Great work! Subscribing to this thread...
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Freakin Jim, you pulled it off! Guess I won't be getting that pulley
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Nice!! I love seeing custom fab work. Hopefully we get to se the power difference.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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You mean like this:

LOL!! Yes, Like that sir. I think I am going to pull mine and do it next weekend. nice response!
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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How much of a weight difference is there between the two units? Also, was the relocation of the bypass diaphram easy?
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Originally Posted by jproy
Scalbert, Long time no see!!! I saw you were back making posts. Thanks for the props. Its great to get input from people like you and ThinJim. I really hope to see a significant drop in the intake temps at the top end. If it gets crazy up there I will look toward an intercooler but we will have to see. Anyone who can do simple math can see I could have already bought a nice turbo system for what I have into this. Its different and no one else has done it yet on this car.
THats BRAVE, thats GUTs.
Good work, But why so much work if u going to sell it. Especially if u going to pay so much to have it donee rght. ( Not like u had free labor or u did all the work ursef <..i.e did not incur any cost other than ur time and effort>) and then decide selling it for a Big profit.

HAve fun with it 4 like 4 yrs then sell it after it u have got tired of it.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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I do all the work. I did pay ~350 for some of the fab work I didnt want to do. My car has not seen a wrench outside of alignments that wasnt mine in 4 years. If it is crazy fun and all goes well I will probably hold on to it for a bit, maybe not. These cars are learning tools for me. Exploit one and if it isnt where you really wanted to be, get another and exploit it. Get where you want to be and learn everything you can getting there. Once I do all this work, the car will be maxed out as a luxo street car. I will enjoy it but I have other plans for a Sunday RWD SCCA road course car. The FWD boat just cant cut it out on the track.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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How much of a weight difference is there between the two units? Also, was the relocation of the bypass diaphram easy?
I will have to weigh them to see what the weight diff was but it is probably about 15lbs more. The relocation of the bypass was done by Magnuson. There isnt much to it and I wanted to tryi it myself but Magnuson did it for free so I sent it back to them. You also have to use a different bypass on the other side so that had to be exchanged anyway. The big deal was how easy magnuson said it was to damage the bearings and seals the bypass shaft sits on. There was also some special tool necessary to line up the bearings correctly with the change it sides. So, no it wasnt to easy beign that I had to ship it back to them. I will say Magnuson has been a pleasure to work with.
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Originally Posted by jproy
I will have to weigh them to see what the weight diff was but it is probably about 15lbs more. The relocation of the bypass was done by Magnuson. There isnt much to it and I wanted to tryi it myself but Magnuson did it for free so I sent it back to them. You also have to use a different bypass on the other side so that had to be exchanged anyway. The big deal was how easy magnuson said it was to damage the bearings and seals the bypass shaft sits on. There was also some special tool necessary to line up the bearings correctly with the change it sides. So, no it wasnt to easy beign that I had to ship it back to them. I will say Magnuson has been a pleasure to work with.
I would agree with the ease of working with Magnuson as well as the ease of killing a blower. I had a failed attempt at porting an M90 for a GTP many many years ago. The thing was grinding the bearings right away after the reinstall. Ended up purchasing a pre-ported unit from them.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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LOL!! Yes, Like that sir. I think I am going to pull mine and do it next weekend. nice response!
I did that back in 2002 with about 1500 miles on the car (the 6MT of course, after I traded the 5AT in on it). Below is the directory for the various images if interested:

http://www.flwse.com/images/steve/IntakeManifold/
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