Karanx7

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Does anyone have any suggestions for an aluminum radiator that would fit the 2G TL/CL?

I know that XLR8 and CSF made them in the past, but the CSF one is discontinued. Will an Accord radiator fit?

zeta

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Besides the S/C'er and, believe it or not, the Legend calipers, this was one of best top three mods that I've ever done , actually this one was forced, hehe. I distinctly remember, about ten years ago, I was told by other members how CSF radiators were bad quality , here ten years later I have not had one problem, other than the radiator cap needing replacement.

If you look at the 19010-P8C-A51 Denso radiator from an '02 Accord and compare it to the '02 TL-P or 03 CL-S; 19010-PJE-A51 they look identical. Therefore, if someone makes an aluminium radiator for the '02 Accord, it should fit .

'02 TL-P:
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...tor-denso-scat

'02 Accord EX:
http://www.realhondaparts.com/rwhond...s=&view=normal

Karanx7

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Damn, they really look similar. Thanks for those links, I didn't think they'd be that close.

I contacted XLR8 to see if he can still get the TL/CL ones made. If that doesn't work out, then the Accord option is my only choice. It's getting too hot in AZ.

thoiboi

Understatement of the century

zeta

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If possible, it may be prudent to go forward with research in finding a compatible Accord one in the meantime. That way you get exposure to price details, dimensions et al. IIRC, the griffin one XLR8 championed fit like a glove at a premium price.
Good Luck.

ExcelerateRep

Hey Karanx7,

Unfortunately it's been a couple years since we've made any of those radiators and we don't have anymore kicking around.

If you reach out to Griffin Radiators they may have something that will work for you, no promises, but it's worth a shot!

If it comes down to it, the Accord radiator does look super close so that may fit with minimal modifications.

Good luck on the search!

zeta

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I'd be real careful recommending a 'reach out' to Griffin Radiators.

brian6speed; 18Aug2011;page 9; post#355 & 357:

[/QUOTE]So I purchased/paid for a radiator from excelerate that will be made by griffon. I gave them my car info and was told they already had the dimensions to make radiator. Keep in mind I paid over 4 months ago. When I received the radiator it did not fit so I sent it back. They asked me to take measurements of my stock radiator to fix it. I sent them dimensions multiple times and waited. Then weeks or a month later they tell me that I have to send in my stock radiator or they refuse to fix it. So I bought a brand new knockoff stock radiator I had to pay for and I had to pay shipping. Then I don't hear anything from them for another fee weeks. Now they tell me modifying the radiator to fit is not possible and they would have to make a whole new one. According to griffon i am liable for this problem. They refuse to do this unless I pay them another 500 on top of the 6-700 I have already spent. I told them I will not pay another cent. Now my only option is to take legal action. [/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE] I got email today from excelerate that he will work it out and pay them. I must say excelerate is an amazing vendor and I really appreciate what he is doing. He has always answered my emails promptly. I feel bad about the whole situation and just wish it went smoothly and noone had to lose out on this deal. The only winner in this situation is Griffon since they are getting paid twice.[/QUOTE]

04Oct2011;pg10;post#389:
[/QUOTE]I just got an email today from excelerate saying Griffon will not return his emails. It looks like the radiator will never happen. Excelerate offered me credit toward another purchase so I will most likely use it to buy clutch. [/QUOTE]

teh CL

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Zeta > *

zeta

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You may have another manufacturer in mind. So the info. below is just a comparison of the available CSF radiators outlined:

'02 TL; CSF #2720; OEM replacement for 19010-PJE-A51
1 row OEM Style Plastic tanks, Aluminum core.
Core Size:15 3/4 x 28 1/4 x 5/8
Tank Size Inlet: 28 3/4 x 1 3/16
Outlet: 28 3/4 x 1 9/16
Hose Fittings: Top 1 1/4; Center
Bottom 1 1/4 Left
No of Rows: 1
Oil Cooler: NO

'98-02 Honda Accord; CSF #2740;
1 row All Aluminum Tanks & Core.
Core Size:15 3/4 x 28 1/4 x 15/16
Tank Size Inlet: 28 3/4 x 1 7/8
Outlet: 28 3/4 x 1 7/8
Hose Fittings: Top 1 1/4; Center
Bottom 1 1/4 Left
No of Rows: 1
Oil Cooler: NO

'01-03 CL; CSF #3011; discontinued.
1 row All Aluminum Tanks & Core; STREET RACING model.
Core Size 16-3/4 x 28-1/4 x 15/16
Tank Size Inlet 28-3/4 x 1-7/8
Outlet 28-3/4 x 1-7/8
Hose Fittings Top 1-1/4 Centre
Bottom 1-1/4 Left
No of Rows 1
Oil Cooler NO

Conclusion:
The 2740 Accord radiator core is one inch smaller then the discontinued 3011 CL radiator core; otherwise, they are the same dimensions.
The 2740 Accord radiator is ALMOST the same dimension as the 2720 OEM replacement. :

Karanx7

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So I've been doing some reading on the Accord forums, and it seems that the 6th gen Accord guys have some options. Assuming that the 2002 Accord radiator drops into the TL/CL chassis (I think it should), then we also have those same options.

94-97 Accord Radiator: This radiator is a bit shorter and has the coolant outlet on the passenger side, so it requires radiator stays from eBay and a longer 4 foot outlet coolant hose. This option seems to have the most aftermarket support.

98-02 Accord Radiator: This option has the outlet on the passenger side, so it requires a longer 4 foot outlet coolant hose. I'm not sure about the height, but I imagine it should be the same as ours.

03-07 Accord Radiator: This option is a bit shorter and has the coolant inlet port a little closer to the driver's side. This requires eBay radiator stays, and some mild trimming of the upper radiator hose. The lower radiator hose does not need to be changed.

I'm going with the 94-97 Accord radiator because it's a bit shorter which will help me clear my M90 supercharger. Also, I got a full setup with built in radiator shroud and slim fans for around $200. I'll have to buy a longer lower radiator hose, but that's no big deal.

All of this is assuming the lower pegs on the Accord radiator have the same dimensions as the TL/CL radiator. I'll write a review when I get mine.

zeta

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Will your 94-97 Accord radiator be custom made? Or do you have a brand/part # lined up so I can get a visual.

Definitely go with the lower profile type that you described, since you are fitting an M90 in there. You would definitely have fitment issues with the CSF#2740. I had to trim my fan shroud when fitting in my discontinued #3011 with the M62.

Karanx7

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Here's a link to the radiator I bought:
Yonaka Honda Accord 94-97 Lightweight Aluminum Race Radiator + Fan Shroud Kit | eBay

It's a Yonaka radiator made for 5G Accords, Preludes, and the 1G CL. Here's a link to the guy who used a 5G Accord radiator in his 6G Accord V6:
Mishimoto Aluminum Performance Radiator(56k) - 6th Gen Accord DIY and Performance Forums

Also, here's a link to a guy who used a 7G Accord in his 6G Accord V6:
DIY:03-07 Accord V6 aluminum rad on 98 Accord V6 - 6th Gen Accord DIY and Performance Forums

So as long as the 6G Accord radiator fits in our TL/CL chassis, then we could theoretically use any of these options with small modifications (longer hose, aftermarket radiator stays).

zeta

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Your analysis is correct from what I can find, in regards to the 'lower pegs on the Accord radiator' and the 6G Accord radiator fitting the TL/CL chassis:

The '02 TL front (lower) cross member set; 04603-S87-A00ZZ, where the lower radiator peg holes reside, share the same part # with the 6G Accord and TL/CL:
'02 TL; #3 on link below:
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...-bulkhead-scat

'03 CL-S6; #3 on link below:
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...-bulkhead-scat

'98 Accord; #3 on link below:
http://www.realhondaparts.com/rwhonda/jsp/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=ACCORD&catcgr y2=1998&catcgry3=4DR+EXV6&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5= FRONT+BULKHEAD&ListAll=All&vinsrch=no&systemcomp=L ist All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

Can't get the last link to work. click on 'Front bulkhead'.

brian6speed

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Yea, my experience with Griffon was awful. They make a good product, but customer service is garbage.

I thought ppl were just using the CSF one for 98-02 Accord.

zeta

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lol, I hope you don't mind that I quoted from your unfortunate experience back in 2011. When I observed ExcelerateRep make his recommendation, I felt compelled.

Anyway, it turns out Karanx7 needs a lower profile one for his S/C'er project so the CSF #2740 won't fit his agenda.

How about you? There is alot of good info in this thread should you opt, again, for an aluminum rad.
If the one in my car sh*t the bed tomorrow I would be looking at all of the one's listed by the OP as well.

brian6speed

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Naw I don't mind. Griffon never even sent me back the new oem radiator I shipped them. No cooling issues for me yet, so will stick with what I have till issues arise. Have not really looked into it since 2011.

ComptechV6

Ive been using a koyo radiator from a 94-97 with custom hoses and no issues what so ever..