brian6speed

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I noticed this company modifies the aem ems 2 so it is plug and play for our 01-03 cl 6 speed cars. I just thought some people might be interested. It is pricey though. Hope this hasn't been posted before.

Here is the company/website page with ecu for cl
http://www.dezod.com/pd-dezod-motors...03-6-speed.cfm

gnuts

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I Remember civic saying you just have to open the unit up and switch some jumper to Hall sensors.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=782866&page=2

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Man it would be awesome if I could finally tweak the stock ecu on my auto..

I still find it weird how the ecu reprogramming or whatever has never been a viable option for us CLers.

That's the only mod left I could do to my car... Common wtf lol

brian6speed

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Here is what civic typed "Along with the sensors you will also need to swap the entire engine harness and wire the gauge cluster and temp sensors to work properly with external signal modifiers. "

I am not good with electronics so not sure I want to try and do that solo without help.

I am undecided if I want the ecu. I am just staying N/A so not really necessary and having to swap back to stock ecu every year to pass emissions does sound annoying.

fsttyms1

The AEM isnt tweaking the stock ECU. Nothing has changed with that and never will. The ECU simply cant be rewritten. That is the problem and the need for a standalone.

gnuts

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The piggybacks for the CL have always worked for automatic CLs.

i think he wrote that before he spoke to Paul and was shown that the AEM can be opened up and the jumpers can be switched and it's good to go. No need to switch everything to auto sensors etc. Didn't Civic end up using the AEM himself?

01CLinprocess

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I don't think he ever installed and tuned with full aem ems. He never dyno'd the car with a full tune on aem ems, if he would have his numbers would have been over 300whp, NA. If I'm not mistaken he was tuned on FI/C.

In my opinion is you have enough supporting mods to justify it, full aem ems is the way to go. 2 step launch control and so much more, but I can see how the price is a huge deterrent.

01CLinprocess

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Just a disclaimer, I'm not talking out my ass here. I've known Morgan for about 6 years now, and the history of his CL is of particular importance to me since its now mine .

johndo18

I also read somewhere that the ecu works with the 6 speeds in the end however not seamlessly. Supposedly the the water temp gauge doesn't work properly and the car takes extra cranks to start up. Can anyone confirm this?

rush

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thats too much

brian6speed

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It is expensive, but Cl owners would say that about all aftermarket parts besides Chinese knockoffs. Atleast they offer a choice for ppl who can't or are unwilling to modify ecu/harness themselves.

johndo18

With the already limited aftermarket for the CL anything that we can get...we'll take!!!!

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I cannot agree that the cl has a limited aftermarket.

Considering it's a luxury coupe that parents bought in the day, I am surprised there is the aftermarket that exists at all for this car.

i was totally surprised I could get all the mods I did for the CL.

yes u can argue the g35 which is very similar had a shit load of aftermarket and so did the 350z... but they were actually sporty cars unlike the CL which is more of a grocery getter..... hate to say

so if u weigh it all out we are pretty lucky we got the support we have. at least that's just what i think.. sure there could be a bunch more goodies but all in all we got a decent amount of options for what the car is.

Accord316

so why did you buy the cl over the g35...Im thinking about trading my cl for a g35 coupe

R J Poseidon 6

Hey guys, Paul's the man.

I've had my CL-S Superchaged since '07 & has sucked w/the piggyback. Ever since I installed the ecu & had it tuned by Sergio @ www.KingsPerformance.com - it's fucking perfect!

No more surging. Ever.

Karanx7

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Well fuck dude, give some more info. Are you using the auto sensor setup, or the manual sensors? Speedo, tach, coolant, reverse lights all work?

R J Poseidon 6

Haa!

Manual of course. Yes, everything works fine. I am super anal & wanted everything to work down to the seat heaters & pass. mirror going down in reverse! Before we did this I made sure that I would not loose 1 amenity.

It's amazing now.

AnthraciteTypeS

Can you shed some light on how to wire the pass. mirror tilt when in reverse? I lost that function when I swapped my car to 6 speed and till this day can't figure it out!

Marcelechka

For you s/c guys looking for alternative / standalone solution:

I just heard back from Sergio; $2,250 turnkey. Includes AEM unit, sensors, plug & play adapter, installation, tuning w/ dyno time... up to two weeks to complete once car is delivered.

Sergio Reyes - VP / Shop Manager / Tuner
serge@kingsperformance.com
(321) 235-2699

Kings Performance
6200 E. Colonial Drive
Suite A
Orlando, FL 32807

Just an fyi.

CL-Future

That is actually not bad all things considered

R J Poseidon 6

I wish I could however, it was all done by www.KingsPerformance.com so I would call Sergio & maybe he can help. Sorry man, they did it since that was WAY out of my knowledge...

The things is that everything works perfect & driveability is perfect, something I've missed since installation of the s/c.

JarrettLauderdale

I'd usually think twice about that installed price, but the resume of Kings Performance makes me feel better about it. I may end up moving to Orlando shortly, too.

R J Poseidon 6

Yea, I was in the same boat. Having said that, having a s/c'd Honda & having it NOT surge is one in a million. There would be times that I pull up to a light & you know what happens .... or I'd be taking a chick for a ride & I'd get on it ... surge after surge after surge & it just SUCKED.

Now, it's spot on every single time - no issues.

Almost worth more!

johndo18

An AEM would be so sweet and just be like icing on the cake..It would be perfect

Well if it was RWD then it would be perfect

gnuts

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RJ, what hp numbers did you put down and on what psi?

R J Poseidon 6

329whp & 305ft.lb. GNuts, the psi is 6

wickedpr1nce

Any chance you have a dyno graph of your tune? Would love to see the before and after.

johndo18

Impressive


It's good to hear that the 6 speed cls can run the AEM and retain drivability. I think your the first person i heard of running it consistently with no issues

AnthraciteTypeS

BUT what happens when it comes time for emissions? Swap back to manual sensors & stock ecu? This is the problem

brian6speed

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That is one of the reasons I am still using stock ecu, plus I still have a lot of modding left. Would have to swap ecu's once a year.

Nice to see this thread is still active.

Marcelechka

Be it E-manage or AEM, a knowledgeable tuner with proper tools will save you a lot of $$$ & headaches in the long run; trust me on this.

Now that we know the AEM unit is fully functional and in use with RJ's car; if you can swing it, I highly recommend as it allows you to adjust much more than the Emanage system. Specially for the N/A guys...

AnthraciteTypeS

Emissions has a lot to do with why no one has tried it. It's not that it won't work. We know it will work there are loads of swap cars running it. I just have a hard time believing it's plug and play to work with the manual engine's hall cam/crank sensors.

*IF* it is, then yes- ground breaking progress for the platform. And for the $2000 they're charging, I really hope it works. Care to elaborate R J?

R J Poseidon 6

Yes, w/it being a Plug & Play, according to Sergio, all you have to do is revert back to the stock ECU & you should be fine.

Having said that, we do not have testing here in Florida (w00t!) so I, personally, have no clue.

zeta

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It appears the dyno for his tune (R J Poseidon 6) is included on the link brian6speed provided in his original post, just page down a little below the kit Dezod is selling:

Dezod Motorsports. Dezod Motorsports AEM EMS Standalone Engine Management System-CL Type S 01-03 6 Speed