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Old Oct 30, 2025 | 05:27 PM
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Didn't even know he was racing.
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Old Nov 17, 2025 | 03:55 PM
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Damon Hill turned down Ferrari!

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Old Nov 17, 2025 | 04:13 PM
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Schumacher and Hill on the same team? Wild alternate universe.
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Old Nov 20, 2025 | 09:32 AM
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Didn't want to start a new thread, but also didn't have anywhere [other than the F1 thread] to put this.
@F-C : Thoughts on having a General Motorsports thread?

https://www.the-race.com/endurance/v...chleife-rules/

Max Verstappen’s shock GT3 debut (and victory) at the Nürburgring didn’t just win headlines earlier this year. It helped trigger the biggest rewrite of the Nordschleife’s licensing system in a decade.

Back at the start of his career, Verstappen prompted Formula 1 to change the rule regarding drivers’ minimum age - the bar being raised to 18 after he’d made his debut at 17.

Now he’s been the driving force behind a major rule change in a different championship in a rather different way.

When Verstappen showed up for his first-ever race at the Nürburgring Langstrecken-Serie (NLS), few expected the four-time F1 champion to shake the foundations of German motorsport governance.

As a reminder, before taking part in an NLS race at the wheel of a GT3 car, all drivers must obtain the DMSB Nordschleife Permit Grade A. This involves theoretical classes, laps completed behind an instructor, and a race at the wheel of an underpowered car.

There are no exemptions for anyone, and Verstappen went through the process in good spirits on Friday 12 and Saturday 13 September, notably taking part in the race aboard a Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 CS with an engine restricted to 300bhp.

Two weeks later, he returned at the wheel of his Ferrari 296 GT3 and won the race with Chris Lulham, a simracer for his Red Line simracing team, who also had to secure his Permit A.

While Verstappen’s patience and passion were widely praised, this story had a major consequence for the series. Verstappen didn’t push for this reform directly, but the impact of his preparation made the case impossible to ignore.

This week, the DMSB announced a historic overhaul of the Permit Nordschleife (DPN) system. For the first time ever, sim racing - specifically DNLS, the Digital Nürburgring Langstrecken-Serie - now counts toward a real-world Nordschleife permit. In short: the world’s most intimidating racetrack just acknowledged that virtual laps can be as meaningful as real ones.

“Since the introduction of the DNLS in 2020, we've known that simracing is not just a fun pastime, but accurately reflects reality in a more than adequate form,” said VLN sporting director Christian Vormann, who last year, alongside his role as race director in the real NLS, also oversaw the DNLS races.

“Furthermore, Max Verstappen’s recent participation in an NLS race has shown how important virtual preparation is, especially on the notorious Nordschleife.”“Without a doubt, as a four-time Formula 1 world champion, he is an exceptionally skilled driver,” he added. “Nevertheless, the fact that he could win his first GT3 race outright surprised many.

“Verstappen completed countless laps in the ‘Green Hell’ in the iRacing simulation, including in the DNLS. He adapted extremely quickly.

“The DMSB deserves great praise for this bold step in recognising virtual racing as proof for the DPN, and we are proud to offer the DNLS as the first platform to do so.”

It’s rare for a governing body to make such a dramatic regulatory shift, rarer still for that shift to be openly linked to one superstar’s performance. But isn't this done at the expense of safety?

“The DNLS is successful not only due to its international and highly competitive grid, but also because of its professional, reality-based overall set-up,” replied Robin Strycek, sports coordinator of DMSB e.V., who will take over as head of sports at the DMSB from January 1, 2026.

“Alongside the NLS organisation, Porsche is represented with PEETN [Porsche’s works sim programme], and stewards and officials from the real NLS and motorsport scene are actively involved.”

Under the new system, drivers holding an International D licence (Circuit) or higher can now follow a hybrid digital-to-real pathway. They can have their participation in a DNLS season - held during the winter break - counted as driving experience for the DPN Level B.

To do so, they must have completed three of the four DNLS races cleanly and classified. Additionally, participation in an RCN (Rundstrecken-Challenge) performance test is required. That’s a session where drivers must demonstrate that they have the necessary skills to drive on the circuit, often with specific criteria such as consistency, compliance with rules, and safety). And here it is sufficient to be one of two drivers. Previously, drivers had to take part in two RCN races or compete solo in a single event.

The option to progress directly from the D-License to DPN Level B through a training course, as Verstappen did this year, remains in place.

The consequences could ripple across global motorsport. Simracing specialists now have a legitimate, recognised path to real GT and endurance racing. Fewer RCN races means lower entry costs, a major concern for amateurs.

But above all, this simplified system could convince some renowned drivers to take the plunge. In particular, some former F1 drivers, who have been tempted to participate in the Nürburgring 24 Hours but never took the step due to the requirements for obtaining the DMSB Nordschleife Permit Grade A.

Verstappen is expected on the grid for the 2026 edition of the Nürburgring 24 Hours on May 16-17 next year. Will he be joined on track by other superstars? Time is running out: the Season 7 opener of the DNLS is on December 6, 2025, followed by races on December 20, 2025, and February 21 and 28, 2026. The season registration is already open.
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The 11th Rallye Bandama; 3500 miles in Côte d´Ivoire (Ivory Coast), December 1979.

Won by Arne Hertz and Hannu Mikkola in a Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC 5.0.

For German to English subtitles, CLICK on "Settings" > "Subtitles/CC" > "German (auto-generated" > "Auto-Translate" > "English"



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Old Nov 22, 2025 | 04:42 PM
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Walter Röhrl and Jochen Berger, overall winners of the 1974 European Rally Championship in their Opel factory Ascona 400.








Last RWD car to win (1982) before Audi's Quattro AWD system became dominant.





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Old Dec 21, 2025 | 08:14 PM
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Pure Genius of Williams F1

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Old Dec 21, 2025 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nanxun
The 11th Rallye Bandama; 3500 miles in Côte d´Ivoire (Ivory Coast), December 1979.

Won by Arne Hertz and Hannu Mikkola in a Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC 5.0.

For German to English subtitles, CLICK on "Settings" > "Subtitles/CC" > "German (auto-generated" > "Auto-Translate" > "English"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEqyDJPHvs&t=73s
That's wild. Transport on a raft in the river. Barreling down a dirt road with a cyclist peddling nonchalantly. And I didn't even know Mercedes ever did rallying.
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Old Dec 22, 2025 | 06:55 AM
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Thx for sharing. Learned a lot, including that the FW15C was actually the pinnacle of the development process.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 06:35 PM
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FWIW, this FaceBook page has some amazing detail pics of McLaren F1 cars but also incredible words to describe what it is, who designed it and the car it was used on

Hand painted historically significant F1 cars created by former McLaren design engineer (1980-2005), Matthew Jeffreys.
https://www.facebook.com/Carprofileart




​​​​​​​MP4/4 Rear wing mounting plates.. Fun fact..

The MP4/4 rear wing mountings were an evolution of the design John Barnard had introduced on the MP4/2 in 1984. The twin plates (each about ⅜" wide) consisted of a pair of unidirectional carbon fibre laminate skins bonded either side of an enclosed CNC-machined Tufnol (10G42) frame. Aluminium honeycomb was bonded as the sandwich material between the skins and carried the shear loading. Each frame had a rounded leading edge and chamfered trailing edge for aero efficiency. The frames mounted to the gearbox casing and end cover (via Nylon bushes for vibration resistance) through one of two sets of fixing holes that allowed for ride height options.

The frames' unidirectional carbon fibre skins were 'herringboned' I.e. the fibres aligned in the direction of the loads transmitted to the upper and lower fixings.

There was a design challenge in how best to mount the plates to the rear wing mainplane. This was solved by machining a Tufnol spacer block (with holes for 4 10-32 UNF bolts pre-machined through it), to the profile of the mainplane lower surface. It's width set the distance between the plates. Next, how to bolt it all together.. This was done by moulding a rectangular pocket shape into the lower central part of the mainplane and using a drill jig to accurately position 8 (4 in each side) 0.191" diameter holes through the carbon walls of the moulded pocket. Captive anchor nuts were attached internally to one of the pocket side walls to accept the 4 bolts that then had to threaded through the wing from the outboard side prior to the endplate being attached. The whole assembly was very stable and carried all the aero loading generated by the wing.
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 06:44 PM
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Automobile Legends: 1992 Ferrari F92A Formula 1, driven and owned by Jean Alesi

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Old Jan 19, 2026 | 09:55 AM
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THE MCLAREN HONDA DIVORCE! The Story of McLaren's 2017 Formula One Season

Great look back of the 2017 McLaren season (last with Honda power)

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Old Jan 20, 2026 | 04:19 PM
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Incredibly ugly car.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 09:28 AM
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/n...ease/10793868/

Netflix has confirmed that a new Michael Schumacher documentary will be released on the streaming service in 2026.

The documentary, Schumacher ’94, is set to centre around the seven-time champion's first title-winning season in 1994, and will be a German-speaking non-fiction feature.

Schumacher, in his first season with Benetton in 1994, won eight of the 12 grands prix, finished second in two races and retired from the remaining two, clinching his first championship title.

Directed by Christin Freitag and produced by LEONINE Documentaries, the documentary will feature Schumacher's wife, Corinna, as well as others who are close to the former Ferrari driver.

"1994 marks a turning point in Formula 1 history: 25-year-old Michael Schumacher wins the first Grand Prix of the racing season in Brazil, setting the stage for an unprecedented career," the synopsis from Netflix reads.

"The year 1994, which is among the most dramatic and exciting racing seasons in Formula 1 history, featured impactful events such as Ayrton Senna's lethal accident, as well as accusations of manipulation and unfair driving maneuvers. At the same time, a true 'Schumi Mania' emerged.

"Michael Schumacher's wife, Corinna Schumacher, and other people close to him reminisce about him at that time. They remember an uncompromising fighter on the racetrack and a sensitive, empathic man off the course.

"Corinna Schumacher, who has always been his emotional support, also offers insight into the beginnings of an extraordinary love story - one that is still going strong today."

Katja Hofem, Netflix vice president content DACH, said at a Berlin event where Netflix announced all of the upcoming German-speaking shows and films: "The successes of recent years shows how truly diverse entertainment today can be. But we’re not stopping there.

"2026 is our most ambitious year yet, with more German-language series, films and non-fiction projects and in greater variety than we have ever seen before.

"This is only made possible by years of work to develop the right projects, the courage to try something new, and close collaboration with our creative partners and producers on the ground. With ‘What Next’, we show what Netflix stands for: strong local stories, executed at the highest level."

A release date is yet to be confirmed.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 09:29 AM
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Hopefully available with English subtitles
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 12:46 PM
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Can't wait to see it. That season is hard etched in my brain.
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Old Mar 25, 2026 | 11:03 PM
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One of the races I wished I could have watched. After watching Rush, I felt that maybe Hunt didn't fully deserve to win the title. Lauda missed a few races, came back severely injured, and sat out the finale. Different eras obviously.
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KICKED OUT OF HIS OWN EMPIRE! The Final Years of Ron Dennis at McLaren

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Old Mar 26, 2026 | 08:58 AM
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One of the races I wished I could have watched. After watching Rush, I felt that maybe Hunt didn't fully deserve to win the title. Lauda missed a few races, came back severely injured, and sat out the finale. Different eras obviously.
Lauda missing three races due to his crash and injuries made it far easier for Hunt to become WDC. Hunt won two and 4th in another of the three races Lauda missed while recovering from his injuries.

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Old Mar 27, 2026 | 10:45 PM
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I'd have to think that the British media bias gave Hunt's championship a bigger mystique than it deserved.
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Last RWD car to win (1982) before Audi's Quattro AWD system became dominant.






An incredible story about the recovery and restoration of Rohl's RA40.





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