Motorsports: History and Legacy Discussion Thread
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Bobby Unser's comments are also classic.
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The troubled car that was a game-changer for F1
I thought the 641 (640 successor) is one of the most beautiful F1 cars ever.
Didn't know the 639 had torsion bar front suspension (knew the 641 did).
https://autos.yahoo.com/troubled-car...100214016.html
Didn't know the 639 had torsion bar front suspension (knew the 641 did).
https://autos.yahoo.com/troubled-car...100214016.html
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The Ferrari that would have won the Indy 500? Tale of the unraced 637
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...he-unraced-637
Looked good, woulda been really interesting to see how well Ferrari have done at Indy
Looked good, woulda been really interesting to see how well Ferrari have done at Indy
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The Alfa Romeo IndyCar engine though...
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S!@# Nelson Piquet says
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Ranking Michael Schumacher's 7 F1 world championships
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/j...an-gp/4803307/
Car: Maserati 250F
In my life there have been so many great races, so it's hard to pick one. But a good race is where you don't think you have a chance of winning. So a very spectacular race was the one at the Nurburgring in 1957.
Nurburgring was one of my favourite circuits, because a driver always had a chance. It's a circuit of 23km with 166 turns and ups and downs. If you got there with less, you could always do a lot. It's one of the circuits I liked most to race on.
I was driving the Maserati. It was a good car with lots of stability. It came from a small factory, but the mechanics were excellent; there was a good union between the mechanics and myself. The Ferrari was an excellent car as well – I had won at the Nurburgring with Ferrari in 1956.
In practice the cars were not working well; they were consuming too much rubber. So we decided that during the race I would have to stop to change them. The mechanics knew before the race that there would be a problem, so they practised changing. They got a best time of 30 seconds, and at that time that was very good.
In the race itself, I already had a 30s advantage over second place when I came into the pits. I don't know what happened in the pits, but when I came out to start again I'd lost 30s plus another 48s!
The Ferraris were first and second. It was two Englishmen, Mike Hawthorn (left) and Peter Collins (right) – they were two good drivers, so I never thought I could get an advantage over them. I was 51s behind them when I started again, and there were only 10 laps to go.
I always had in my head the possibility of winning a race, and this race was almost lost for me. So I had to risk – that's something I never did before in my life.
So, I started to switch from using fourth gear to fifth. I started to pull stronger using the longer gears. And I thought, maybe once is OK, I can take one turn like this – but it's crazy if I take two...
I made the right decision. If in one turn I was using second gear, then I went into third. When it was third, I used fourth gear. And the car went better into the turns. Then there is much more risk, this is much less safe, but you go faster. And then in one of the downhills I saw the other two cars; they were one behind the other. There were only two laps to go. And that was the first moment that I really thought I could get them.
I've never been a spectacular racer, but I did things I had never done in my life, driving from one side of the circuit to the other, using the maximum revs. And that's how I caught them and won the race; I won by 3s. I made record laps in the last 10 laps.
But I had a problem; one of the screws in the back of my seat broke on the last lap. I got my leg hurt trying to get the seat straight. I couldn't grab hard on the steering wheel; I had to drive with it, it's not to grab yourself with!
For me, this was the most emotional race. I was named meister; if you win three times at the Nurburgring then you are something special. And this race helped to give me the fifth world championship. When I was waiting for my laurels, I was very emotional. In 1954 a driver I took there to race had died [Onofre Marimon], so this circuit had given me happiness and sadness.
Simply, now I can say it; I never thought I could win this race. I risked for the first time in my life.
It was my last grand prix win. I took the decision to retire the next year - I was getting old. People think I retired because Luigi Musso was killed at Reims. But I wasn't retiring because of that. I saw the accident – he was right in front of me when he crashed – but I didn't know he was killed.
But while I was driving in that race, I started to think, what am I doing? I came here [to Europe] to race for a year. I never thought I was going to win races, and I have 10 years racing and won five world championships. What am I looking for?
Interview by Adam Cooper, first published in Autosport magazine, 21/28 December 1989
The latest episode in Autosport’s Race of My Life podcast series we look back at the race five-time Formula 1 world champion Juan Manuel Fangio chose as his greatest – the 1957 German Grand Prix.
Race: 1957 German Grand Prix, NurburgringCar: Maserati 250F
In my life there have been so many great races, so it's hard to pick one. But a good race is where you don't think you have a chance of winning. So a very spectacular race was the one at the Nurburgring in 1957.
Nurburgring was one of my favourite circuits, because a driver always had a chance. It's a circuit of 23km with 166 turns and ups and downs. If you got there with less, you could always do a lot. It's one of the circuits I liked most to race on.
I was driving the Maserati. It was a good car with lots of stability. It came from a small factory, but the mechanics were excellent; there was a good union between the mechanics and myself. The Ferrari was an excellent car as well – I had won at the Nurburgring with Ferrari in 1956.
In practice the cars were not working well; they were consuming too much rubber. So we decided that during the race I would have to stop to change them. The mechanics knew before the race that there would be a problem, so they practised changing. They got a best time of 30 seconds, and at that time that was very good.
In the race itself, I already had a 30s advantage over second place when I came into the pits. I don't know what happened in the pits, but when I came out to start again I'd lost 30s plus another 48s!
The Ferraris were first and second. It was two Englishmen, Mike Hawthorn (left) and Peter Collins (right) – they were two good drivers, so I never thought I could get an advantage over them. I was 51s behind them when I started again, and there were only 10 laps to go.
I always had in my head the possibility of winning a race, and this race was almost lost for me. So I had to risk – that's something I never did before in my life.
So, I started to switch from using fourth gear to fifth. I started to pull stronger using the longer gears. And I thought, maybe once is OK, I can take one turn like this – but it's crazy if I take two...
I made the right decision. If in one turn I was using second gear, then I went into third. When it was third, I used fourth gear. And the car went better into the turns. Then there is much more risk, this is much less safe, but you go faster. And then in one of the downhills I saw the other two cars; they were one behind the other. There were only two laps to go. And that was the first moment that I really thought I could get them.
I've never been a spectacular racer, but I did things I had never done in my life, driving from one side of the circuit to the other, using the maximum revs. And that's how I caught them and won the race; I won by 3s. I made record laps in the last 10 laps.
But I had a problem; one of the screws in the back of my seat broke on the last lap. I got my leg hurt trying to get the seat straight. I couldn't grab hard on the steering wheel; I had to drive with it, it's not to grab yourself with!
For me, this was the most emotional race. I was named meister; if you win three times at the Nurburgring then you are something special. And this race helped to give me the fifth world championship. When I was waiting for my laurels, I was very emotional. In 1954 a driver I took there to race had died [Onofre Marimon], so this circuit had given me happiness and sadness.
Simply, now I can say it; I never thought I could win this race. I risked for the first time in my life.
It was my last grand prix win. I took the decision to retire the next year - I was getting old. People think I retired because Luigi Musso was killed at Reims. But I wasn't retiring because of that. I saw the accident – he was right in front of me when he crashed – but I didn't know he was killed.
But while I was driving in that race, I started to think, what am I doing? I came here [to Europe] to race for a year. I never thought I was going to win races, and I have 10 years racing and won five world championships. What am I looking for?
Interview by Adam Cooper, first published in Autosport magazine, 21/28 December 1989
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Great story.
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Are These F1's Ugliest Race Winning Cars?
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I quite liked the Martini liveried FW38
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I've liked all of the MB F1 cars since 2014
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If the W10 didn't have the halo, it would look even better
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Yeah, the Mercedes doesn't have the nose hump.
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Button's Win, Mega Schumacher Overtake + More! | Emirates Best Onboards | 2011 Canadi
Love Rosberg saying " What's the RIS?"
some of the saves in this video are pretty unreal, Montreal doesn't have alot of room when you go off the track.
One of my fav rain races
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Top 10 Moments Of Alain Prost Brilliance
The Professor!!!
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Almost Ferrari drivers: Michael Andretti and Juan Pablo Montoya
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1...cline-ferrari/
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1...-italian-team/
Montoya is not surprising but Andretti in '91/92 surprised me
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1...-italian-team/
Montoya is not surprising but Andretti in '91/92 surprised me
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I had no idea about Andretti and Ferrari. Montoya's decision to leave F1 is still a puzzle for me.
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THE MOST ADVANCED F1 CAR! The Story of the Williams FW15C (1992-1993)
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Podcast: Patrick Head | Engineering the Greats
Sir Patrick Head!!!!
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Podcast: Adrian Newey | Engineering the Greats
OBE Adrian Newey!!!
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Nice!
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Frank Dernie - the Car is the Star
Not a rockstar but still extremely brilliant F1 car engineer who greatly affected alot of F1 innovations.
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John Barnard | Engineering the Greats
John Barnard!!!!
Barnard's apprehension of Prost is apparent at 10:00
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Podcast: Gordon Murray | Engineering the Greats
Not quite as good and Dernie, Head and Bernard but still good interview.
Murray's praise of Piquet was expected, they got on very well.
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9 things that led to Alain Prost being fired by Ferrari
ALOT of things I never heard or read before
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Always drama at Ferrari.
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^^ truth, however if you've ever been to Italy and seen the fanaticism over the Scuderia, you'd know why there's so much passion, drama and tension there. I've never seen anything like it, especially when Ferrari went 1-2 at the Italian GP I attended 1998. It literally was like the second coming of Christ, the track, surrounding town and country went nuts.
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Rain is not expected this weekend. So no outside passing heroics this time.
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