Formula One: 2024 Season News and Discussion Thread
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I'm almost certain that all of the promo shots (with the dark black backgrounds) are renders. So it doesn't matter if they are hiding anything, it's fake anyways.
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Red Bull launches investigation following F1 boss Horner allegations
Me Too at RBR? IDK if Horner is guity of not but he seems like the kind of guy who would be involved.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...any-rcna137359
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...any-rcna137359
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I was scrolling through the comments to see who would pick up this very fine point. Hamilton is 1 for 1 in team switches when it seems he is making a very bad decision. He must have some sort of inside knowledge as he just said last season he would never leave MBZ and wanted to finish his career there. Very interesting development indeed. Does that mean Sainz goes to RBR as rumored then to make way to LH?
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Albon is rumored to have signed a new deal with RBR. Curious where Saintz will wind up but perhaps MB if their main choices are not available. I was curious how many teams Alonso had switched to, eight teams in his career so he's 1 for 7 team switches in terms of getting WDC.
8 teams! Is that a record? He should keep going and race for Haas, Sauber, Red Bull, and Williams to complete his collection. (I think the 8 switches include 2 stints at Renault.)
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Me Too at RBR? IDK if Horner is guity of not but he seems like the kind of guy who would be involved.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...any-rcna137359
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...any-rcna137359
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Just my 6th sense, Horner's personality seems to be a creep to me.
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Marko for me .. but maybe he just like any other "creepy ol' white guy" to me
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...Qs1OnSnUL.html
Formula 1 has announced that the British Grand Prix will remain on the calendar until 2034 inclusive following a 10-year extension with promoter Silverstone and its owner, the British Racing Drivers’ Club (BRDC).
The new agreement between the three parties will see the Northamptonshire circuit race into its ninth decade, having hosted the first-ever F1 Grand Prix back in 1950.
A host of famous F1 names have taken the chequered flag at Silverstone over 74 years of competition, from Giuseppe Farina in 1950 to Max Verstappen in 2023, while Lewis Hamilton holds a record eight British Grand Prix victories.
Two other members of the 2024 grid have claimed victory around the 5.891km, 18-corner circuit, including two-time winner Fernando Alonso and Carlos Sainz, who took his maiden win at the venue in 2022.
Recent years have seen the British Grand Prix become one of the largest attended events on the F1 calendar, with 2023 attracting some of the biggest names in sport, music and culture, as the race drew in a record crowd of 480,000 across the weekend – with over 60,000 fans camping in the local area.
Having always played a pivotal role in F1, Great Britain is also home to seven of the sport’s 10 teams, many located just a few miles from the circuit.
The 2024 edition of the British Grand Prix will take place from July 5-7.
“I am delighted to announce that the British Grand Prix will remain on the calendar for 10 more years with this agreement,” said Stefano Domenicali, President and CEO of Formula 1.
“Silverstone is an iconic venue at the heart of F1 history and as it approaches its ninth decade hosting Grands Prix, the event continues to attract fans from around the world for fantastic racing on track and the amazing fan experience off it.
“I would like to thank Peter Digby from the BRDC, Stuart Pringle and the whole Silverstone team for their hard work and dedication to take the British Grand Prix to new heights and I look forward to working closely with them as they look to further improve the facilities and fan experience over the next 10 years.”
Peter Digby, Chairman of the British Racing Drivers’ Club, said: “I am delighted we have secured a 10-year extension to host the Formula 1 British Grand Prix at Silverstone.
“This contractual security will provide a solid base for the further development of the venue as we continue to improve and transform the circuit into a year-round international motorsport and leisure destination.
“The 2024 Formula 1 season will start with nine BRDC Full and Honorary members on the grid and the importance of our continued support of young drivers is particularly evidenced by the success of Lewis, Lando [Norris], George [Russell] and Alex [Albon].”
“This long-term commitment reflects the importance of the British Grand Prix to Formula 1 and their acknowledgement of our ability to deliver a world-class experience for the British fans who are among the most enthusiastic and knowledgeable in the world,” added Stuart Pringle, Chief Executive Officer, Silverstone.
“The cheers of support for the home teams, and particularly for the British drivers on the grid, makes the Silverstone atmosphere unique and I am looking forward to harnessing this passion for our sport and taking the event to the next level in the coming decade.”
The new agreement between the three parties will see the Northamptonshire circuit race into its ninth decade, having hosted the first-ever F1 Grand Prix back in 1950.
A host of famous F1 names have taken the chequered flag at Silverstone over 74 years of competition, from Giuseppe Farina in 1950 to Max Verstappen in 2023, while Lewis Hamilton holds a record eight British Grand Prix victories.
Two other members of the 2024 grid have claimed victory around the 5.891km, 18-corner circuit, including two-time winner Fernando Alonso and Carlos Sainz, who took his maiden win at the venue in 2022.
Recent years have seen the British Grand Prix become one of the largest attended events on the F1 calendar, with 2023 attracting some of the biggest names in sport, music and culture, as the race drew in a record crowd of 480,000 across the weekend – with over 60,000 fans camping in the local area.
Having always played a pivotal role in F1, Great Britain is also home to seven of the sport’s 10 teams, many located just a few miles from the circuit.
The 2024 edition of the British Grand Prix will take place from July 5-7.
“I am delighted to announce that the British Grand Prix will remain on the calendar for 10 more years with this agreement,” said Stefano Domenicali, President and CEO of Formula 1.
“Silverstone is an iconic venue at the heart of F1 history and as it approaches its ninth decade hosting Grands Prix, the event continues to attract fans from around the world for fantastic racing on track and the amazing fan experience off it.
“I would like to thank Peter Digby from the BRDC, Stuart Pringle and the whole Silverstone team for their hard work and dedication to take the British Grand Prix to new heights and I look forward to working closely with them as they look to further improve the facilities and fan experience over the next 10 years.”
Peter Digby, Chairman of the British Racing Drivers’ Club, said: “I am delighted we have secured a 10-year extension to host the Formula 1 British Grand Prix at Silverstone.
“This contractual security will provide a solid base for the further development of the venue as we continue to improve and transform the circuit into a year-round international motorsport and leisure destination.
“The 2024 Formula 1 season will start with nine BRDC Full and Honorary members on the grid and the importance of our continued support of young drivers is particularly evidenced by the success of Lewis, Lando [Norris], George [Russell] and Alex [Albon].”
“This long-term commitment reflects the importance of the British Grand Prix to Formula 1 and their acknowledgement of our ability to deliver a world-class experience for the British fans who are among the most enthusiastic and knowledgeable in the world,” added Stuart Pringle, Chief Executive Officer, Silverstone.
“The cheers of support for the home teams, and particularly for the British drivers on the grid, makes the Silverstone atmosphere unique and I am looking forward to harnessing this passion for our sport and taking the event to the next level in the coming decade.”
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The hard part of that video is he mixes facts with his opinion and make it all sound like facts. The blogger makes his opinions/innuendo sound like he was there as well. One person he missed in the discussion was Aldo Costa who was the Engineering Director at MB who was responsible for overall MB car design from 2013 to 2019, from what I read Costa and James Allison were pretty tight with Hamilton for car development. When Costa retired and then Allison took a different CTO role within MB racing, thing started to change with Mike Elliott as the new Technical Director (Allison's former role, post Paddy Lowe).
Apparently Hamilton was not happy with the way Elliott took input more from the race/performance engineers than the drivers for car development which he talked publicly about in 2022-23. Ironically Hamilton/Allison didn't hit it off at first but they grew to trust each other over time. h I don't think that ever happened with Elliott, especially with the zero-pod concept not working (high drag, low downforce). Hamilton was not happy at all with the 2022 car's bad porpoising and overly stiff suspension, complaining to Wolff and Elliott often. Wolff acknowledged it, but Elliott keep looking for a setup solution where it could be tamed. For certain suspension, aero settings, ride heights and fuel loads it could work but the window was small, very different from the Red Bull which works over a broad range of conditions and environments. Even though Allison returned mid-23 and changed the sidepod aero and front suspension geometry (essentially copying the RBR high angle upper A attachment points) which I woulda guessed made things right for Hamilton, but perhaps the allure of Ferrari was too great and he lost faith in Wolff making the right choices.
Apparently Hamilton was not happy with the way Elliott took input more from the race/performance engineers than the drivers for car development which he talked publicly about in 2022-23. Ironically Hamilton/Allison didn't hit it off at first but they grew to trust each other over time. h I don't think that ever happened with Elliott, especially with the zero-pod concept not working (high drag, low downforce). Hamilton was not happy at all with the 2022 car's bad porpoising and overly stiff suspension, complaining to Wolff and Elliott often. Wolff acknowledged it, but Elliott keep looking for a setup solution where it could be tamed. For certain suspension, aero settings, ride heights and fuel loads it could work but the window was small, very different from the Red Bull which works over a broad range of conditions and environments. Even though Allison returned mid-23 and changed the sidepod aero and front suspension geometry (essentially copying the RBR high angle upper A attachment points) which I woulda guessed made things right for Hamilton, but perhaps the allure of Ferrari was too great and he lost faith in Wolff making the right choices.
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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/c...ull-f1-launch/
The investigation into the complaint lodged against Red Bull Formula 1 team principal Christian Horner by an employee is not expected to conclude before the launch of the team’s new car next week.
It may even still be ongoing at the time of the first race of the 2024 F1 season in Bahrain in three weeks’ time.
From what The Race understands, Horner was interviewed on Friday as part of the investigation, which is being carried out by an "external specialist barrister".
This is just one part of a much wider process which is expected to take weeks to complete, with the report of the investigation then being presented to the Red Bull board in Austria, which will make any decision based upon that.
The Race reached out to Red Bull Racing’s media team for confirmation but all queries relating to this matter are now being referred to the parent company in Austria.
It may even still be ongoing at the time of the first race of the 2024 F1 season in Bahrain in three weeks’ time.
From what The Race understands, Horner was interviewed on Friday as part of the investigation, which is being carried out by an "external specialist barrister".
This is just one part of a much wider process which is expected to take weeks to complete, with the report of the investigation then being presented to the Red Bull board in Austria, which will make any decision based upon that.
The Race reached out to Red Bull Racing’s media team for confirmation but all queries relating to this matter are now being referred to the parent company in Austria.
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RBR gearbox/suspension
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Well, the Ferrari takes the cake, so far. Not a lot of bare carbon/black on it.
Wondering if the other teams are struggling to get the weight down & RB, Aston and Ferrari found some weight loss.
Wondering if the other teams are struggling to get the weight down & RB, Aston and Ferrari found some weight loss.
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2024 car technical videos
Safe to say, that's a awkward Toto and Lewis exchange
Very interesting that Ferrari is alone keeping the rear pullrod suspension while MB, RBR, AM, and Alpine choicing pushrod.
All teams seem to be doing the same high bodywork section bordering the engine cover. MB looks like most competitors aero-wise.
Very interesting that Ferrari is alone keeping the rear pullrod suspension while MB, RBR, AM, and Alpine choicing pushrod.
All teams seem to be doing the same high bodywork section bordering the engine cover. MB looks like most competitors aero-wise.
