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Old 11-18-2022, 09:45 AM
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Ricciardo in
Perez out?
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fairly procedural race, was hoping Aston Martin woulda had better strategy for Seb's last race as he coulda finished higher than 10th, and get another $12M additional prize for the team.

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Williams have confirmed that American driver Logan Sargeant will be stepping into a full-time race seat alongside Alex Albon for 2023, following the conclusion of the 2022 Formula 2 season.

Sargeant headed into the Abu Dhabi F2 season finale needing to score 10 Super Licence points in order to meet the required threshold to compete in Formula 1 – with Sargeant easily surpassing that figure by securing P4 in the final drivers’ standings.

He therefore met the criteria set out by Williams Team Principal Jost Capito earlier in the year, with Williams duly handing the race seat to Sargeant, having announced in September that they would be parting company with Nicholas Latifi after three seasons.

“We’re delighted to officially announce Logan as our driver for next year after qualifying for a Super Licence following the final F2 event of the season in Abu Dhabi,” said Capito. “Logan completes our exciting driver line-up for 2023 alongside Alex.

“Since joining our Driver Academy at the end of 2021, Logan has been able to fully integrate with the team at Grove while on the simulator and more recently at track during the four free practice sessions he’s participated in. He’s had a strong rookie season in Formula 2, and we are excited to watch him make the step up in Formula 1. We are here to support that journey with him.”

Sargeant, who will become the first driver to fly the flag for the United States of America on the F1 grid since Alexander Rossi in 2015, added: “It’s a huge honour and a dream come true to be given this opportunity to compete in Formula 1 with Williams Racing. A massive thank you to every person at Williams Racing and Dorilton Motor Sports for the support they’ve given me since the day I first joined the team at the 2021 United States Grand Prix.

“Being a part of the Williams Driver Academy for the past year has given me an important platform to develop as a driver and prepare me for this next chapter. I’m ready and excited to be a part of this journey as the team looks to progress up the grid.”

Sven Smeets, in his role as Sporting Director of Williams, has overseen Sargeant’s progress in the Williams Driver Academy – with Smeets calling the promotion of the 21-year-old Floridian “a proud moment”.

"To be able to give Logan the opportunity to compete in Formula 1 for Williams Racing next year after being an integral part of our Driver Academy is a proud moment for the team,” he said.

“Seeing a driver from the Academy getting in our F1 seat is a motivation for all the other Academy drivers and demonstrates legitimacy of the programme and the platform it provides.

"We are not only preparing him on track, but will be working hard over the winter off track to ensure he’s in the best possible position to start 2023.”

Sargeant won’t have long to wait before getting back behind the wheel of a Williams F1 car, with the American – who completed free practice runs for Williams in Austin, Mexico, Brazil and Abu Dhabi this year – set to run for the team at the post-season Yas Marina test on Tuesday.
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Red Bull have confirmed that Daniel Ricciardo will return to the squad – with whom he won seven Grands Prix – as third driver for 2023.

At the end of this season, Ricciardo departed McLaren to make way for compatriot Oscar Piastri, who races alongside Lando Norris in 2023. The eight-time Grand Prix winner – who took a one-two for McLaren at Monza in 2021 – will return to Red Bull to assist with testing, simulator work and commercial activity.

Ricciardo, 33, hinted strongly at a return to Red Bull in a reserve capacity after leaving McLaren without another full-time role set up.

"The smile says it all," he said. "I’m truly excited to be coming back home to Oracle Red Bull Racing as their Third Driver in 2023. I already have so many fond memories of my time here, but the welcome from Christian [Horner], Dr [Helmut] Marko and the entire team is something I’m sincerely appreciative of.

"For me personally, the ability to contribute to and be surrounded by the best team in F1 is hugely appealing, whilst also giving me some time to recharge and refocus. I can’t wait to be with the team and support with simulator work, testing sessions and commercial activities. Let’s go!”

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The Australian made his debut for HRT in 2011 but joined Red Bull feeder squad Toro Rosso the following year, before being called up to Red Bull in 2014. There, he partnered Sebastian Vettel, Daniil Kvyat and Max Verstappen.

Red Bull Team Principal Christian Horner added: “It is great to bring Daniel back into the Red Bull family. He has enormous talent and such a brilliant character; I know the whole factory is excited to be welcoming him home.

“In his role as test and third driver, Daniel will give us the chance to diversify, assisting in the development of the car, aiding the team with his experience and knowledge of what it takes to succeed in F1. We’re very pleased to be working with Daniel again and look forward to everything he will bring to the team in 2023.”
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Test & 3rd drive, but no the reserve driver?
Sergio better perform, he'll be under some real pressure now.
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And Ricciardo still gets paid for the 2023 season from his McLaren contract, right??
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I believe so, or they bought out the balance at a reduced % of the contract.
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Ferrari really fell apart in 2022, only beating Mercedes by 39 points despite a superior car.

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What went right and what went wrong for every F1 team in 2022

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  • Nate SaundersGeneral Editor, F1 The 2022 Formula One season is over. Red Bull took the championship, but all 10 teams had at least one good thing to shout about, as well as moments that didn't go to plan, across the season.

    Here we look at the best and worst of every team's season, in championship order.

    1. Red Bull

    What went right: Pretty much everything. Max Verstappen was on another level this year and looked as good as any dominant champion in F1's recent history, winning a record 15 of the team's 17 victories. Verstappen's ability to continually raise the bar was impressive and it is hard to argue against him being the best driver in F1 right now. With Verstappen on board the team's future looks incredibly bright. The team operated at a top level too. Red Bull out-developed and out-strategised its rivals throughout the year and continually underlined the strength of the whole F1 operation -- head of strategy Hannah Schmitz was one of the heroes of the team's campaign. The world champions had to deal with engine supplier Honda officially withdrawing from F1, but later struck a deal to continue using one of the best power units in F1 until the end of 2025. Early reliability issues threatened the team's championship challenge in the early weeks of the year but once the team was on top of those problems, it never looked back.

    What went wrong: Optics and reputational damage. The team's 2021 budget cap overspend cast a shadow over the achievement of winning both F1 titles for the first time since 2013. Red Bull was hit with a $7 million fine and will lose 10 percent of its aerodynamic testing allowance next year. Red Bull was already due to have the lowest allocation of any team, having won the championship, raising the possibility it could struggle to keep pace with the development of Ferrari and Mercedes next year. Then there was Brazil, where Verstappen refused a simple request to help his dutiful teammate Sergio Perezin his bid to finish second in the drivers' championship. It made Verstappen look petulant and disrespectful and, worst of all, made the team look powerless to control their superstar driver. Red Bull took the blame, but the damage was done. Team harmony is now a big question-mark and the whole saga may set up an interesting situation if Verstappen needs Perez's help in a tighter championship fight next season.

    2. Ferrari

    What went right: Returning to the front. Ferrari's car was the cream of the crop in winter testing and started with two Charles Leclerc wins from three races early on. The team had clearly made good decisions in the preceding year in terms of car design, after two years woefully off the pace following its private settlement with the FIA for running an illegal engine in 2019. Building a more competitive car than the all-conquering Mercedes outfit was a feather in the cap and it did manage to secure second in the championship. Although the season did not end with the championship win many had hoped, Ferrari has set a good baseline for future seasons and is not as far from contention as in previous years.

    What went wrong: Strategy, car reliability, driver errors -- the list is long. Not long after those two early wins, Ferrari's season imploded. The team made many baffling strategy calls and its radio communications with drivers became a source of comedy at the end of the season, with Leclerc especially sounding fed up with things at recent events. Team boss Mattia Binotto infamously declared there was no reason the team couldn't win the final 10 races of the season, only for the team not to win any of them. Binotto's job appears to be hanging by a thread now and it is clear big changes are needed if Ferrari wants to be a champion any time soon. The team cannot shoulder all the blame, though. Leclerc and Carlos Sainz made their fair share of mistakes at big moments which only worsened the team's woes through the year.

    3. Mercedes

    What went right: The team's driver pairing and emergence of George Russell. Valtteri Bottas' performances were a weak point of the team in previous years but with Russell at the helm alongside Lewis Hamilton, the team has two superstar drivers. Mercedes quite comfortably has the best driver lineup on the grid right now. Russell lived up to all expectations and beat Hamilton's points haul over a season -- only the third teammate to do that in 16 years. He scored a memorable first win in Brazil, the team's only victory. Hamilton started slowly but was back to his best by midseason and it is clear the fire is burning within him as much as ever. If Mercedes can build a title-worthy car and avoid internal conflict, it will be a formidable pairing for any team to beat.

    What went wrong: The car. Mercedes' championship challenge seemed over before the season had even started. The W13 featured a radical concept, different to any other car on the grid, and it immediately created problems for the team. The car was known for how it bounced at high speeds earlier in the year -- a phenomenon known as porpoising. It meant Mercedes started on the back foot, which was a fall from grace after eight seasons at the front of the pack. The team managed to solve early problems and developed well over the year, but it was never a legitimate contender for the title. Toto Wolff has vowed to put the troublesome car in the reception of the team's two factories next season to remind employees how difficult it is to win in Formula One.

    4. Alpine

    What went right: Beating McLaren to fourth. Realistically, this was the best the French team could hope for this year, with F1's top three clearly a step ahead of the rest. Esteban Ocon and Fernando Alonso were two of 2022's in-form drivers and there were only three races Alpine failed to score a point at. With a lot of questions about the long-term vision of the Renault factory outfit, this result was a sign that, whatever might be going wrong behind the scenes, the team is at least on a good path in terms of its car.

    What went wrong: Team management and reliability. It was a bad look for the French team to lose Alonso and Oscar Piastri to rival teams in the space of a week. The handling of mega-talented junior driver Piastri, for so long considered the future of the team, was farcical, while Alonso was happy to take a step down the grid to Aston Martin after Alpine dithered on his contract extension. It seems the in-fighting and mismanagement which has plagued the Renault operation since it returned to F1 in 2016 has not gone away. Although it finished fourth, Alonso regularly called out the team's spotty reliability record and it will need to get on top of this if it wants to continue an upward trajectory without the Spaniard at the helm.

    5. McLaren

    What went right: Lando Norris. McLaren extended Norris' F1 contract until 2025 at the start of the season. It will be money well spent. By finishing 'best of the rest', a term Norris said he does not actually like, the British driver was one of the year's standout performers and the only driver outside of the top three teams to score a podium, which he did at Imola. Norris is one of the best long-term prospects in F1 right now. He did not win a race but, unlike his missed opportunity in Sochi last year, McLaren was never in the mix for victory. When Norris gets a competitive car there can be little doubt he will be a contender for victories and championships in future.

    What went wrong: Daniel Ricciardo and a car stranded in the midfield. While Norris excelled in one car, Ricciardo floundered in the other, scoring a staggering 82 fewer points than his teammate. CEO Zak Brown cut the Australian's deal short one year early, a decision understandable in the context of Ricciardo's results since joining McLaren in 2021. Ricciardo wasn't the only concern. McLaren came into the season hoping to make the top three a pack of four teams, but it seemed further away from the front this year and never came close to challenging for a win. There has been progress under Brown but this famous F1 team might be stuck in the midfield for a little while yet. The longer that wait goes on, the harder it will be to convince Norris to stay.

    6. Alfa Romeo

    What went right: Audi, Valtteri Bottas and finishing sixth. Bottas was a superb signing by the Swiss team and the Finn was at the center of the Hinwil operation's best championship result since finishing sixth as Sauber in 2012. Bottas scored 49 of the teams 55 points, showing how valuable that kind of experience can be to a midfield team with a competitive car. Rookie driver Zhou Guanyu is unpolished but may have the talent to stay in F1 for a while if he can show progress next year. On top of everything else, Alfa Romeo secured a huge partnership with German manufacturing giants Audi for 2026, which will be a huge boost for the future of a team that has won just one race in its 26 years on the F1 grid. Good times await.

    What went wrong: Reliability. Despite the strong result, Alfa had one of the worst reliability records on the grid. During the European rounds Alfa's cars seemed to hit an issue every weekend and that surely left a huge haul of points on the table across the season. Over the final 12 races the team added just four points to its tally and ended up tied on 55 with Aston Martin. Bottas' fifth-place finish at Imola -- which neither Aston driver could match -- won a tiebreaker, but it shows you how costly those issues might have been. The two cars' starts were also terrible all year, something the drivers put down to clutch issues.

    7. Aston Martin

    What went right: Convincing Alonso to join the project. Alonso is exactly the kind of driver Aston Martin needs to achieve Lawrence Stroll's lofty ambitions of running at the front of the grid in a few years. Stroll has shown he is willing to spend big to achieve his goals and this was an indication of how serious he is. Alonso, who joins on a three-year deal, has no issues publicly calling out a team for poor performances or reliability and he might be the driving force the team needs internally to move up the order. He remains one of F1's most talented drivers and, as long as Aston Martin can manage his ego the right way, Alonso will be a huge boost to the team going forward. It is clear he is as fired up as ever, which is always as good thing.

    What went wrong: A lack of competitiveness. Aston Martin's car is still a long way from looking like one that can challenge for anything meaningful in F1. Stroll has invested heavily in a new factory opposite the Silverstone circuit but it is only just coming online and was completed too late to have an impact on the 2022 campaign. The most worrying thing this year will be how far behind the Alpine/McLaren battle Aston Martin found itself, with Sebastian Vettel and Lance Stroll often fighting at the lower end of the order in qualifying and races. Aston Martin is a long way away from proving it is a team moving in the right direction.

    8. Haas

    What went right: The return of Kevin Magnussen and a new title sponsor. The team's future seemed uncertain when it cut ties with Uralkali at the start of the year, but it bounced back superbly. K-Mag's return was a great sporting comeback story and showed why the team is now going for the experienced Nico Hulkenberg over the error-prone Mick Schumacher -- experience is key. Magnussen scored the bulk of Haas' points at the start of the season and that proved vital in finishing ahead of AlphaTauri for eighth in the championship. Ahead of the U.S. Grand Prix, Haas confirmed the arrival of MoneyGram as title sponsor, which team boss Guenther Steiner said will allow the team to spend at the top end of the cost cap. The team will hopefully be able to turn its attentions to a return to the midfield pack in future years.

    What went wrong: Money and Mick. In the period between Uralkali and MoneyGram, it was clear how strapped for cash Haas was this year. The team had to delay a planned upgrade midway through the year and it slipped down the order as other teams developed their cars. Haas' cause was not helped by Schumacher's expensive crashes in the opening races, which left them worried about running out of spare parts at some races. Schumacher showed glimpses of form after that but ultimately not enough to keep his job. Although MoneyGram is a boost, Haas lost ground to several midfield rivals in the spell without a title partner in a crucial year in this new generation of cars - the first year sets the baseline for what is to come.

    9. AlphaTauri

    What went right: Not a lot. The team managed to snag the talented Nyck de Vries as a replacement to the outgoing Pierre Gasly, which was a good bit of business. However, that was arguably better news for Gasly, as he finally got a move back up the grid, and for Red Bull as a whole, finding a suitable replacement for its driver programme. It says a lot about AlphaTauri's season that it is difficult to write much more here. In terms of its finishing position, this was the team's worst season in F1 for a long time.

    What went wrong: Pretty much everything. In the three years before 2022, AlphaTauri finished sixth, seventh and sixth, so this season was a backwards step. Considering the fact its parent team dominated F1 in 2022, it was puzzling to see the Faenza squad as uncompetitive as it was. Reliability, especially, was a big problem throughout the season -- Gasly climbing out of a burning car in practice for the opening race was a sign of things to come. The French driver has been the team's superstar since he dropped back down from Red Bull in 2018 and his heroics might be missed next year. The jury is still out on Yuki Tsunoda, who shows flashes of real talent every so often but going into his third year seems far from the finished product Red Bull and AlphaTauri want him to be.

    10. Williams

    What went right: Alex Albon. No-one in F1 thought the Thai driver deserved to leave the sport after 2020 and his return was a feel-good story -- and, crucially for Williams, he showed why he belonged in F1 this year. Albon was a smart choice to fill the void left by Russell's departure to Mercedes. Albon is a mega talent and for whatever reason things just didn't work out for him at Red Bull, but it is clear how much he is thriving outside the huge pressure of that environment. He also seems a great fit for a Williams team that is renowned for getting the best out of young drivers. If the car makes steps forward next season, Albon is the kind of driver who can get the most out of it.

    What went wrong: Finishing last, again. After three straight years finishing last, the team rose to eighth last season, spurred on by some magnificent Russell results, but dropped to the bottom of the order again this year. Williams routinely struggled to get out of Q1 and has an enormous amount of work to do if it is to even move a place or two up the order. Nicholas Latifistruggled again and De Vries' drive to ninth in Monza (as Albon's stand-in) suggested the team might have fared better with more talent behind the wheel of its second car in recent seasons. Latifi is on the way out, but there are some concerns in the paddock American driver Logan Sargeant has been promoted too early in his development. Time will tell.

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Mattia Binotto has offered his resignation as team principal of Ferrari.

In truth, if his departure is confirmed, it will be a case of being pushed rather than jumping after a mixed season, but one in which he lost the confidence of key players, including No 1 driver Charles Leclerc and chairman John Elkann.

Binotto is expected to be replaced by Alfa Romeo boss, Fred Vasseur, a 54-year-old Frenchman who ran Leclerc in his junior career.
As in every sport, the easiest to change is the coach/manager. Too bad it's not that easy to change the owner, John Elkann and the Agenellis.

Binotto is the fourth manager in charge since the Todt era. Poor Vasseur, he'll be number 5.
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I always thought Binotto was a clown that shouldn't have had the job. But you're absolutely correct, it's the leaders above him and the team itself. It really sucked for Seb and its going to continue to suck for Leclerc and Sainz.
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Williams Team Principal Jost Capito and Technical Director FX Demaison are to leave the team, the British squad have announced.

Owners Dorilton Capital tempted Capito out of retirement to head up the operation after acquiring the team from the Williams family in 2020.

Capito set about rebuilding the team – and this included bringing in Demaison – with whom he worked at Volkswagen on the rally project - to head up the technical side.

The 2021 campaign was a step forward for Williams, with George Russell taking a podium as they ended up eighth in the constructors' championship – but this season they fell back to 10th and last, scoring just eight points.

On Monday, Williams announced Capito and Demaison’s departure, adding that they will confirm their replacements in “due course”.

“It has been a huge privilege to lead Williams Racing for the last two seasons and to lay the foundations for the turnaround of this great team,” said Capito.

“I look forward to watching the team as it continues on its path to future success.”

Dorilton Capital Chairman Matthew Savage added: “We would like to thank Jost for his hard work and dedication as we embarked on a major transformation process to begin the journey of reviving Williams Racing.

“We’re grateful that Jost postponed his planned retirement to take on this challenge and now he will pass the reins on for the next part of this staged process.

“We would also like to thank FX for his contribution and wish him all the best for his future as he moves on.”
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Honda has fuelled speculation that it could make an official Formula 1 return after revealing it has registered with the FIA as an interested manufacturer for the 2026 engine rules.


The Japanese manufacturer pulled out of grand prix racing at the end of the 2021 season, with it clear that its focus on ramping up its electric road car business meant it could no longer justify an F1 programme.

But it still kept its toe in the water as it leased the IP of its power units to Red Bull after 2021, the team going on to win the drivers’ world championship with Max Verstappen.

Its ongoing success this year has prompted an increase in its presence, with Honda logos returning to the Red Bull cars from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards.

The current arrangement with Red Bull runs until the end of the 2025 season, after which the Milton Keynes-based team plans to run its own power unit.

But talk about Honda coming back to F1 moved forward when an original plan for Red Bull to tie-up with Porsche from 2026 fell through after talks between the parties collapsed.

Immediately after that news emerged, Red Bull, which is developing its own engine, said it was open to potentially partnering with Honda – especially on the increased electrical element of the F1 power unit.

That idea has inched forward now with Honda’s motorsport chief revealing in Japan on Monday that the company had formally registered its interest as an engine manufacturer.

The FIA had laid down a request for all manufacturers that want to run power units from 2026 to notify the governing body of their intentions by the middle of November.

Honda Racing president Koji Watanabe confirmed that Honda had done so – but was clear to explain that this did not necessarily mean it would definitely enter from 2026.

“As HRC, we have registered as a PU manufacturer after 2026,” said Watanabe during Honda’s 2023 Honda Motor Sports Activity Plan Presentation.

“The F1 regulations from 2026 onwards are moving in the direction of carbon neutrality.

“In addition, the fact that electrification is also being promoted, and the carbon neutrality and electrification that Honda Motor Co., Ltd. is promoting, is the same. The targets match.

"As a racing company, we have registered as a manufacturer in order to advance research on racing.

“There is also the fact that November 15 was the deadline (for registration). We have registered as a manufacturer in order to continue [this research].”

Honda’s decision to register means it now has scope to evaluate whether or not to push on with a formal return in 2026 – which could either be alone or in partnership with Red Bull.

If it had not registered by the November deadline then it would have been more difficult for it to enter for 2026 at a later date, and it would not have been involved in any of the formal discussions that are now ongoing between the different manufacturers and the FIA.

Speaking to Motorsport.com earlier this year, Watanabe had explained that Honda never fully shut the door on an F1 return – and would actively consider it once it was happy that its road car priorities were sorted.

“I think there are several factors we need to watch,” he said when asked what would convince Honda to return.

“But once we decided to conclude the F1 because of mass production [road cars] and carbon neutrality, first we need to concentrate on this side.

“Then, once we can realise that we can achieve this, we can consider F1.”
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Musical chairs in the paddock.

Capito/Demaison out at Williams
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...iL4IJL9vc.html

Stella to TP at McLaren
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...qK1K0sR6E.html

Vasseur to TP at Ferrari
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...USUwnJE66.html

Seidl to CEO at Sauber
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...cY2SqzjZo.html

No TP named for Alfa/Sauber as yet.
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Not surprising the TP and TD are out at Williams, very little progress since their time there.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...75EAbTnNI.html

However, despite the difficult season, it seemed as if Capito would stay on for a third year. It is believed the 64-year-old accepted that it would require at least five years to turn Williams’ fortunes around.

However, Dorilton have decided that Capito is not the right person to lead the team going forward and they also lay blame at the door of Demaison, who is ultimately responsible for the technical team.

As a result, Capito and Demaison have left, paving the way for Williams to appoint a new management team they hope can take the team forward.

The team’s Achilles’ heel has been the technical structure. When Capito joined, he found trackside engineering and factory engineering were not aligned. They were reporting into different channels.

This was a legacy of Paddy Lowe vacating the role of Technical Director and the team opting not to fill it under previous management. You must go back to the period before that, when Pat Symonds was the technical lead, to find Williams’ most recent sustained success.

Also not too surprised at McLaren TP, although I expect Zak Brown to be fired if the situation doesn't improve there in 2023.
I wonder if Norris ponders how much of his career he's wasting at McLaren with his talents.

The Honda/RBR alliance also makes alot of sense as I imagine RBR would much rather focus on the chassis/aero and Honda is a powerplant provider/partner vs. what Porsche wanted in their RBR partnership.

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From what I read, Capito took delayed retirement to run the team, so an amicable split?
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Honda deciding to stick around is the most Honda thing ever. Imagine their success if they just stick to one decision.
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Honda deciding to stick around is the most Honda thing ever. Imagine their success if they just stick to one decision.
Since 1964 through 2022 Honda has been in F1 31 years and out of F1 28 years.

Assume you have a $1000 stake. You can invest your stake either during the years Honda is in F1 or during the years Honda is out of F1. Whichever your choose, your stake rides the market while it's invested and sits at it's last value while it's not invested.

Should you put your stake in the market (S&P500) in the years that Honda is in or out of F1?




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If you take F-Cs advice and 'just stick with one decision' ... in this case get in and stay in, or stay out ... you end up with either $1000 or $321,000.






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Honda deciding to stick around is the most Honda thing ever. Imagine their success if they just stick to one decision.
Exactly. A big time F1 manufacturer needs to be more transparent. Honda flipping on/off is getting tiring. The teams need stability as does the sport. Honda's flippant approach is not advancing those ideals.
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FWIW, Honda after winning six straight WCC and five straight WDC from 1986-1991, the Honda board asked the simple question "why are we still competing?, we have nothing left to prove". Renault did a similar thing in 1997.

Honda's decision this time seems so Honda-like where they reverse a prior decision. Not following conventional paths is their mojo.
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From what I read, Capito took delayed retirement to run the team, so an amicable split?
IDK, but my guess is many team owners are still in their quest to find the ultimate outsider TP.
Todt, Horner, and Wolff all came from outside F1 and yet had amazing success in F1 as outlier TP. So I wonder if Capito was tried out for somewhat that reason?
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Reported F1 2022 driver salaries

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/100...f1-driver-earn

Reported F1 2022 driver salaries
Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) - $40m

Max Verstappen (Red Bull) - $35m

Fernando Alonso (Alpine) - $20m

Sebastian Vettel (Aston Martin) - $15m

Daniel Ricciardo (McLaren) - $15m

Lando Norris (McLaren) - $15m

Charles Leclerc (Ferrari) - $12m

Carlos Sainz (Ferrari) - $10m

Valtteri Bottas (Alfa Romeo) - $10m

Sergio Perez (Red Bull) - $10m

George Russell (Mercedes) - $5m

Esteban Ocon (Alpine) - $5m

Pierre Gasly (AlphaTauri) - $5m

Kevin Magnussen (Haas) - $5m

Zhou Guanyu (Alfa Romeo) - $1m

Mick Schumacher (Haas) - $1m

Nicholas Latifi (Williams) - $1m

Yuki Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) - $750k
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The tech secrets of F1’s dominant Red Bull RB18

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Don't forget the extra time not allowed under the budget cap RBR abused and got tagged for.
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