Formula One: 2022 Season News and Discussion Thread
#961
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...eaks/10376014/
One of the major talking points at this year’s inaugural event around the Miami Dolphins stadium was a fake marina – made up of a collection of 10 yachts on the inside of Turns 6,7 and 8 which was surrounded by solid vinyl water.
The installation triggered an explosion of photoshopped images and memes and become a major talking point – which delighted circuit bosses as it raised the profile of the whole event.
Despite the buzz around the marina, it was unclear if it would be a one-off installation or would return in 2023.
Now, after months of discussions, track officials have confirmed that several of the features that grabbed attention this year are to return.
Beyond the fake marina, what is known officially as the MIA Marina, Miami will also bring back the Hard Rock Beach Club and the official F1 fan zone.
The circuit has also promised an improved campus experience for fans – with increased shade and water stations, as well as the installation of more trackside viewing platforms around the track.
There are plans to install 56,000 grandstand seats around the track for fans, which is an increase of 3000 over this year.
Miami F1 president Tyler Epp said: “The whole team is working hard to ensure we deliver a fantastic year two experience for our fans, and it’s very exciting to be able to release the tickets to those on the pre-registered list next week.
“2023 will see the return of the iconic MIA Marina and Hard Rock Beach Club which were some of the most popular parts of the MIA campus.
“We have listened to our fans from last year and plan to increase shade, water stations, and will be adding additional viewing platforms around the circuit.
“In year two, we’ll continue to showcase the best of Miami – the culture, entertainment, food, music, and community.”
Pre-sale ticketing allocation will begin next week on October 3, with fans who have pre-registered being sent a time slot to purchase tickets. Those interested in buying tickets can still register to join at f1miamigp.com.
The installation triggered an explosion of photoshopped images and memes and become a major talking point – which delighted circuit bosses as it raised the profile of the whole event.
Despite the buzz around the marina, it was unclear if it would be a one-off installation or would return in 2023.
Now, after months of discussions, track officials have confirmed that several of the features that grabbed attention this year are to return.
Beyond the fake marina, what is known officially as the MIA Marina, Miami will also bring back the Hard Rock Beach Club and the official F1 fan zone.
The circuit has also promised an improved campus experience for fans – with increased shade and water stations, as well as the installation of more trackside viewing platforms around the track.
There are plans to install 56,000 grandstand seats around the track for fans, which is an increase of 3000 over this year.
Miami F1 president Tyler Epp said: “The whole team is working hard to ensure we deliver a fantastic year two experience for our fans, and it’s very exciting to be able to release the tickets to those on the pre-registered list next week.
“2023 will see the return of the iconic MIA Marina and Hard Rock Beach Club which were some of the most popular parts of the MIA campus.
“We have listened to our fans from last year and plan to increase shade, water stations, and will be adding additional viewing platforms around the circuit.
“In year two, we’ll continue to showcase the best of Miami – the culture, entertainment, food, music, and community.”
Pre-sale ticketing allocation will begin next week on October 3, with fans who have pre-registered being sent a time slot to purchase tickets. Those interested in buying tickets can still register to join at f1miamigp.com.
#962
#964
https://racer.com/2022/09/30/red-bul...et-cap-breach/
So the implication is that RBR and its drivers could be deducted points for the 2021 championship.
It's ironic, since a week ago on F1's podcast, they interviewed Horner and he said jokingly that the championship is becoming a financial accounting championship now because of the budget cap rules.
IMO, it's hard to imagine that this would result in any changes to the championship from last year, as it would make F1 a laughingstock. I've said it before, this cost cap is a good idea, but I can't see how they can accurately audit it.
Another thing about the budget cap. I wonder what currency does it use. Is it pounds, dollars, or euros? Because the exchange rate has been crazy this year. Depending on which currency the peg is, it could potentially give advantages or disadvantages to British based teams vs Europe based teams (AlphaTauri, Ferrari, Sauber). And there are teams with facilities in the UK and Europe (Haas and Alpine).
The FIA says it will deal with any breaches of the financial regulations accordingly, amid speculation that Red Bull is one of two teams to exceed the budget cap last year.
Teams have submitted their final 2021 accounts to the FIA, with last year the first season that they were bound by a budget cap that stood at a base $145 million, plus additions for extra races and Sprint events. Sources have confirmed to RACER that both Red Bull and Aston Martin are believed to have exceeded the cap, with the FIA currently preparing its findings for publication next week.
“The FIA is currently finalizing the assessment of the 2021 financial data submitted by all Formula 1 teams,” an FIA spokesperson said. “Alleged breaches of the Financial Regulations, if any, will be dealt with according to the formal process set out in the regulations.”
The FIA’s available punishments for minor overspend breaches — viewed as anything up to 5% over the budget cap limit — range from a reprimand to deduction of drivers’ or constructors’ championship points awarded for the championship that took place within the reporting period of the breach. For material overspends of more than 5% over the budget cap, the sanctions can rise to exclusion from the championship.
Teams are due to receive certification next Wednesday, October 5, when any breaches will be made official. Red Bull has stated “it’s all speculation at this stage” but team principal Christian Horner insists there has not been a breach.
“We’re certainly not aware of any,” Horner told Sky Sports. “The accounts were submitted back in March, so it’s been a long process with the FIA. We’re in that process as we speak. They’re rightly following that process and I think next week is when they declare their certificates. Our submission was below the cap, and it’s down to the FIA to follow their process, which they’re currently doing.
“Inevitably (it’s a big story) — it’s a brand-new set of regulations and a set of very complicated regulations. How the rules are interpreted and applied are going to be subjective between the teams. I’m sure as years go by, things will get tidied up. We’re confident in our submission. The FIA are in a process. There’s always going to be rumors, I’ve heard of major breaches and whatever — I’m certainly not aware of that.
“This is the first time this has ever happened. We do our due diligence, we get audited anyway; it’s a similar process to that, working with an auditor. It’s slightly bespoke to F1. Clarifications have been coming even after the submissions were made. You can see how immature the process is, but the FIA has been working hard on it and doing the best they can.”
A spokesperson for Aston Martin said: “We have submitted our 2021 reporting, we are in discussion with the FIA, and we are awaiting certification.”
Teams have submitted their final 2021 accounts to the FIA, with last year the first season that they were bound by a budget cap that stood at a base $145 million, plus additions for extra races and Sprint events. Sources have confirmed to RACER that both Red Bull and Aston Martin are believed to have exceeded the cap, with the FIA currently preparing its findings for publication next week.
“The FIA is currently finalizing the assessment of the 2021 financial data submitted by all Formula 1 teams,” an FIA spokesperson said. “Alleged breaches of the Financial Regulations, if any, will be dealt with according to the formal process set out in the regulations.”
The FIA’s available punishments for minor overspend breaches — viewed as anything up to 5% over the budget cap limit — range from a reprimand to deduction of drivers’ or constructors’ championship points awarded for the championship that took place within the reporting period of the breach. For material overspends of more than 5% over the budget cap, the sanctions can rise to exclusion from the championship.
Teams are due to receive certification next Wednesday, October 5, when any breaches will be made official. Red Bull has stated “it’s all speculation at this stage” but team principal Christian Horner insists there has not been a breach.
“We’re certainly not aware of any,” Horner told Sky Sports. “The accounts were submitted back in March, so it’s been a long process with the FIA. We’re in that process as we speak. They’re rightly following that process and I think next week is when they declare their certificates. Our submission was below the cap, and it’s down to the FIA to follow their process, which they’re currently doing.
“Inevitably (it’s a big story) — it’s a brand-new set of regulations and a set of very complicated regulations. How the rules are interpreted and applied are going to be subjective between the teams. I’m sure as years go by, things will get tidied up. We’re confident in our submission. The FIA are in a process. There’s always going to be rumors, I’ve heard of major breaches and whatever — I’m certainly not aware of that.
“This is the first time this has ever happened. We do our due diligence, we get audited anyway; it’s a similar process to that, working with an auditor. It’s slightly bespoke to F1. Clarifications have been coming even after the submissions were made. You can see how immature the process is, but the FIA has been working hard on it and doing the best they can.”
A spokesperson for Aston Martin said: “We have submitted our 2021 reporting, we are in discussion with the FIA, and we are awaiting certification.”
It's ironic, since a week ago on F1's podcast, they interviewed Horner and he said jokingly that the championship is becoming a financial accounting championship now because of the budget cap rules.
IMO, it's hard to imagine that this would result in any changes to the championship from last year, as it would make F1 a laughingstock. I've said it before, this cost cap is a good idea, but I can't see how they can accurately audit it.
Another thing about the budget cap. I wonder what currency does it use. Is it pounds, dollars, or euros? Because the exchange rate has been crazy this year. Depending on which currency the peg is, it could potentially give advantages or disadvantages to British based teams vs Europe based teams (AlphaTauri, Ferrari, Sauber). And there are teams with facilities in the UK and Europe (Haas and Alpine).
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#969
Another example of the utter incompetence of modern F1. No excuse to not start the race on time due to rain. Let's be honest here, the cars have gotten too expensive, and the fear of damaging cars with the price cap in place has made F1 scaredy cats everytime it rains.
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#971
conspiracy theorist in me says FIA wanted to see how big of a gap Perez would have before doling out the issue.. Imagine the uproar if they were within a 5 second gap and he got that penalty.. oof
#975
Jolyon Palmer on Perez penalty
Jolyon Palmer did a really good analysis of Perez's 5 second penalty with the safety car. Gets into both incidents and others who were given penalties. Agree with him that the penalty should have been given during the race.
#976
#979
Has he never raced at Suzuka before? Maybe with the pandemic he never has. Still no excuse though. I've probably logged thousands of laps at Suzuka on simulators.
#982
#985
Ricciardo confirms he won’t be on 2023 grid, rules out other series
https://racer.com/2022/10/08/ricciar...-other-series/
https://racer.com/2022/10/08/ricciar...-other-series/
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#987
RBR #1
Very poor race management again. Again, the FIA chickens out by not letting the race proceed with a wet track.
Incomprehensible with the circuit management to have that truck on the track when the cars are still at speed. Reminds me of Suzuka back in 1994 when Martin Brundle almost crashed into a track during a wet race. There were also other incidents back in the 90s, with one where a marshal was hit by a car. For some reason, Japan is very bad at managing track safety.
Very poor race management again. Again, the FIA chickens out by not letting the race proceed with a wet track.
Incomprehensible with the circuit management to have that truck on the track when the cars are still at speed. Reminds me of Suzuka back in 1994 when Martin Brundle almost crashed into a track during a wet race. There were also other incidents back in the 90s, with one where a marshal was hit by a car. For some reason, Japan is very bad at managing track safety.
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#989
Correct, the Bianchi death was in 2014.
As much as I love the Suzuka circuit, I feel like they need to be punished somehow due to all these accumulated incidents. Maybe a one year suspension will get them to wake up.
You'd think with it being owned by a major manufacturer, they would have strong corporate oversight on safety protocols , but I guess not.
As much as I love the Suzuka circuit, I feel like they need to be punished somehow due to all these accumulated incidents. Maybe a one year suspension will get them to wake up.
You'd think with it being owned by a major manufacturer, they would have strong corporate oversight on safety protocols , but I guess not.
#990
Definitely was a scary moment, see how close that truck was & it being on track.
I'd seen a lot of comments about it prior to watching & was expecting worse, but still not ok.
Saw that Gasly was penalized as well, for excessive speed through double yellow & subsequent red flag. Commentary that he knew the Ferrari was off there & would be being recovered, and should not have been carrying so much speed through there. Still put more blame on Suzuka crew than Gasly, especially with the reduced visibility.
I'd seen a lot of comments about it prior to watching & was expecting worse, but still not ok.
Saw that Gasly was penalized as well, for excessive speed through double yellow & subsequent red flag. Commentary that he knew the Ferrari was off there & would be being recovered, and should not have been carrying so much speed through there. Still put more blame on Suzuka crew than Gasly, especially with the reduced visibility.
#991
2021 Cost Cap Breaches
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...sOO3Mx0A2.html
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...sOO3Mx0A2.html
The FIA have announced that two teams have breached the 2021 Financial Regulations.
According to the FIA, who released their findings into a cost cap investigation on the Monday after the 2022 Japanese Grand Prix, Aston Martin are in 'Procedural Breach'.
Red Bull have committed a Procedural Breach and a Minor Financial Overspend (less than 5% of the Cost Cap), according to the FIA.
Williams were found to have made a Procedural Breach in May 2022 that the team then rectified in a "timely, cooperative and transparent manner".
"The review of the Reporting Documentation submitted has been an intensive and thorough process, and all Competitors gave their full support in providing the required information to assess their financial situation during this first year of the Financial Regulations. The FIA Cost Cap Administration notes that all Competitors acted at all times in a spirit of good faith and cooperation throughout the process," stated the FIA.
"The FIA would also note that with respect to this first year of the application of the Financial Regulations the intervention of the FIA Cost Cap Administration has been limited to reviewing the submissions made by the Competitors and that no full formal investigations were launched.
"The FIA Cost Cap Administration is currently determining the appropriate course of action to be taken under the Financial Regulations with respect to Aston Martin and Red Bull and further information will be communicated in compliance with the Regulations."
Procedural Breaches and Minor Overspend Breaches can result in financial penalties and/or minor sporting penalties.
Red Bull, meanwhile, issued a response to the findings on social media which read: "We note the findings by the FIA of 'Minor Overspend Breaches of the Financial Regulations' with surprise and disappointment.
"Our 2021 submission was below the Cost Cap limit, so we need to carefully revew the FIA's findings as our belief remains that the relevant costs are under the 2021 Cost Cap amount.
"Despite the conjecture and positioning of others, there is of course a process under the regulations with the FIA which we will respectfully follow while we consider all the options available to us."
According to the FIA, who released their findings into a cost cap investigation on the Monday after the 2022 Japanese Grand Prix, Aston Martin are in 'Procedural Breach'.
Red Bull have committed a Procedural Breach and a Minor Financial Overspend (less than 5% of the Cost Cap), according to the FIA.
Williams were found to have made a Procedural Breach in May 2022 that the team then rectified in a "timely, cooperative and transparent manner".
"The review of the Reporting Documentation submitted has been an intensive and thorough process, and all Competitors gave their full support in providing the required information to assess their financial situation during this first year of the Financial Regulations. The FIA Cost Cap Administration notes that all Competitors acted at all times in a spirit of good faith and cooperation throughout the process," stated the FIA.
"The FIA would also note that with respect to this first year of the application of the Financial Regulations the intervention of the FIA Cost Cap Administration has been limited to reviewing the submissions made by the Competitors and that no full formal investigations were launched.
"The FIA Cost Cap Administration is currently determining the appropriate course of action to be taken under the Financial Regulations with respect to Aston Martin and Red Bull and further information will be communicated in compliance with the Regulations."
Procedural Breaches and Minor Overspend Breaches can result in financial penalties and/or minor sporting penalties.
Red Bull, meanwhile, issued a response to the findings on social media which read: "We note the findings by the FIA of 'Minor Overspend Breaches of the Financial Regulations' with surprise and disappointment.
"Our 2021 submission was below the Cost Cap limit, so we need to carefully revew the FIA's findings as our belief remains that the relevant costs are under the 2021 Cost Cap amount.
"Despite the conjecture and positioning of others, there is of course a process under the regulations with the FIA which we will respectfully follow while we consider all the options available to us."
#993
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/36...rmula-1-future
Mick Schumacher must score points over the final four races of the season to show he deserves a new Haas deal, says the team's owner.
Gene Haas also told reporters that Schumacher "costs a fortune" with his crashes and confirmed the team had spoken to other drivers about 2023 but that "Mick's future is going to be decided by Mick."
Schumacher is the son of seven-time F1 champion Michael Schumacher and has scored 12 points through 18 races ahead of this weekend's race in Texas, live on Sky Sports F1. There are four races remaining on the schedule.
"We're just waiting," Haas told The Associated Press. "We need Mick to bring some points and we're trying to give him as much time as possible to see what he can do.
"If he wants to stay with us, he's got to show us that he can score some more points. That's what we are waiting for."The 23-year-old Schumacher is 16th in the standings out of 20 full-time F1 drivers and has one less race this season than the rest of the field. He missed the second race of the season after a crash in qualifying at Saudi Arabia required a short hospital stay for the German driver.
Kevin Magnussen, who was brought back to Haas this season after his 2021 firing and a year spent racing in the United States, has 22 points and is ranked 14th in the standings.
"We started off the year with resounding success and I think the middle season wasn't too good, and we just seem to fall back into our usual way of running," Haas said.
"We've just got to get out of that. And Formula 1 is so tough. When I started there was six seconds between the leaders and the backend and you had a 107 per cent rule. Now we're all within two seconds, so it's gotten a lot tougher and there are no bad teams anymore."
Schumacher's crashes have tested the patience of Haas and the team leadership.
"In this sport, being kind of a rookie driver, the sport just doesn't allow it - it's just too expensive," Haas added. "If you make any mistakes in driver selection, strategy or tire selection, it is costing you millions of dollars.
"I think Mick has got a lot of potential but you know he costs a fortune and he's wrecked a lot of cars that have cost us a lot of money that we just don't have. Now, if you bring us some points, and you are (Max) Verstappen and you wreck cars, we'll deal with it. But when you are in the back and you wreck cars, that's very difficult."
Asked if Schumacher has the full final four races to prove himself to Haas, the team owner said: "Well, if he wins the next one, he's in. Somewhere in between there is a grey area."
The drivers being mentioned to replace Schumacher include Antonio Giovinazzi and, more recently, Nico Hulkenberg, who made two starts this season as a substitute driver for Aston Martin.
Gene Haas also told reporters that Schumacher "costs a fortune" with his crashes and confirmed the team had spoken to other drivers about 2023 but that "Mick's future is going to be decided by Mick."
Schumacher is the son of seven-time F1 champion Michael Schumacher and has scored 12 points through 18 races ahead of this weekend's race in Texas, live on Sky Sports F1. There are four races remaining on the schedule.
"We're just waiting," Haas told The Associated Press. "We need Mick to bring some points and we're trying to give him as much time as possible to see what he can do.
"If he wants to stay with us, he's got to show us that he can score some more points. That's what we are waiting for."The 23-year-old Schumacher is 16th in the standings out of 20 full-time F1 drivers and has one less race this season than the rest of the field. He missed the second race of the season after a crash in qualifying at Saudi Arabia required a short hospital stay for the German driver.
Kevin Magnussen, who was brought back to Haas this season after his 2021 firing and a year spent racing in the United States, has 22 points and is ranked 14th in the standings.
"We started off the year with resounding success and I think the middle season wasn't too good, and we just seem to fall back into our usual way of running," Haas said.
"We've just got to get out of that. And Formula 1 is so tough. When I started there was six seconds between the leaders and the backend and you had a 107 per cent rule. Now we're all within two seconds, so it's gotten a lot tougher and there are no bad teams anymore."
Schumacher's crashes have tested the patience of Haas and the team leadership.
"In this sport, being kind of a rookie driver, the sport just doesn't allow it - it's just too expensive," Haas added. "If you make any mistakes in driver selection, strategy or tire selection, it is costing you millions of dollars.
"I think Mick has got a lot of potential but you know he costs a fortune and he's wrecked a lot of cars that have cost us a lot of money that we just don't have. Now, if you bring us some points, and you are (Max) Verstappen and you wreck cars, we'll deal with it. But when you are in the back and you wreck cars, that's very difficult."
Asked if Schumacher has the full final four races to prove himself to Haas, the team owner said: "Well, if he wins the next one, he's in. Somewhere in between there is a grey area."
The drivers being mentioned to replace Schumacher include Antonio Giovinazzi and, more recently, Nico Hulkenberg, who made two starts this season as a substitute driver for Aston Martin.
#994
#995
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...Bi64hvnTO.html
American Formula 1 team Haas have signed a deal with MoneyGram which will see the digital payment firm become title sponsor from next season and beyond.
Haas have been on the hunt for a new lead partner after terminating their contract with Russian company Uralkali and Russian driver Nikita Mazepin ahead of this season.
Following months of talks, Haas announced a multi-year agreement at the Circuit of The Americas – ahead of the United States Grand Prix – that includes team naming rights.
The livery will be revised to incorporate the new partner and unveiled ahead of the 2023 campaign.
“We are pleased to welcome an incredible brand like MoneyGram as our new title sponsor,” said owner Gene Haas.
“Since our entrance into the F1 World Championship in 2016, Haas F1 Team has earned a reputation of strength, agility and resilience. MoneyGram brings a similar drive to the world of financial services, and we’re ready to work together to maximize results on and off the track.”
Team Principal Guenther Steiner added: “MoneyGram is a global leader in fintech and payments and is always setting out to push the boundaries of technology.
“It’s that eagerness for innovation that really drew us to partner with MoneyGram, and we’re confident that we will continue to grow together and reach our full potential.”
Haas have been on the hunt for a new lead partner after terminating their contract with Russian company Uralkali and Russian driver Nikita Mazepin ahead of this season.
Following months of talks, Haas announced a multi-year agreement at the Circuit of The Americas – ahead of the United States Grand Prix – that includes team naming rights.
The livery will be revised to incorporate the new partner and unveiled ahead of the 2023 campaign.
“We are pleased to welcome an incredible brand like MoneyGram as our new title sponsor,” said owner Gene Haas.
“Since our entrance into the F1 World Championship in 2016, Haas F1 Team has earned a reputation of strength, agility and resilience. MoneyGram brings a similar drive to the world of financial services, and we’re ready to work together to maximize results on and off the track.”
Team Principal Guenther Steiner added: “MoneyGram is a global leader in fintech and payments and is always setting out to push the boundaries of technology.
“It’s that eagerness for innovation that really drew us to partner with MoneyGram, and we’re confident that we will continue to grow together and reach our full potential.”
#996
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...CZWYe3XwJ.html
Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz passes away aged 78
Red Bull founder Dietrich Mateschitz passes away aged 78
#998
Curious if and/or how Mateschitz passing will affect the long term RBR in F1.
Good to see Hamilton at the front, but also knew the MB would be easily passed by the RBR being so much quicker despite the botched front left tire change
Good to see Hamilton at the front, but also knew the MB would be easily passed by the RBR being so much quicker despite the botched front left tire change
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#1000
Let's see who becomes the successor for Red Bull. Red Bull and energy drinks are the tobacco of this era.