Formula One: 2012 Season News and Discussion Thread **GP Brazil (page 16)**
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^^^Kimi, a sponsor's dream
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link no worky
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yea basically all of our driver picks are gone........
edit: i thought webber crashed out, guess not still dunno who he got hit. WHERES THE REPLAY!
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yea basically all of our driver picks are gone........
edit: i thought webber crashed out, guess not still dunno who he got hit. WHERES THE REPLAY!
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damn it perez
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I'm not sure that was RoGro's fault.
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From the article
Romain Grosjean admitted he made "a stupid mistake" in running in to Mark Webber at the start of the Japanese Grand Prix.
Webber branded Grosjean a "first-lap nutcase" after being tapped in to a spin by the Lotus in turn two at the start. The incident comes two races after Grosjean was banned from the Italian Grand Prix for causing a first-corner crash in Spa, and he admitted that he had tried to be careful since then but had been caught out by the closing speed as Webber slowed for the second corner.
"Ever since I came back in Singapore my priority has been to be very cautious at the start, and I was watching Sergio [Perez] on my left to make sure there was no contact with him," Grosjean said. "There was quite a big speed difference between me and Mark [Webber] as I came into the first corner which caught me by surprise and we collided. It was a stupid mistake."
Grosjean also revealed that Webber confronted him over the incident after the race and said he would look to learn from the error.
"Mark [Webber] came to see me after the race and was obviously not happy, but I apologised and we have to move on. We'll sit down and look at things again before the next race to see what we can do to improve these situations. In the last few laps of the race the tyres were at the end of their life and we were out of the points, so it made sense to retire. Not a good day, but we have to look ahead to Korea and a chance to make amends."
Romain Grosjean admitted he made "a stupid mistake" in running in to Mark Webber at the start of the Japanese Grand Prix.
Webber branded Grosjean a "first-lap nutcase" after being tapped in to a spin by the Lotus in turn two at the start. The incident comes two races after Grosjean was banned from the Italian Grand Prix for causing a first-corner crash in Spa, and he admitted that he had tried to be careful since then but had been caught out by the closing speed as Webber slowed for the second corner.
"Ever since I came back in Singapore my priority has been to be very cautious at the start, and I was watching Sergio [Perez] on my left to make sure there was no contact with him," Grosjean said. "There was quite a big speed difference between me and Mark [Webber] as I came into the first corner which caught me by surprise and we collided. It was a stupid mistake."
Grosjean also revealed that Webber confronted him over the incident after the race and said he would look to learn from the error.
"Mark [Webber] came to see me after the race and was obviously not happy, but I apologised and we have to move on. We'll sit down and look at things again before the next race to see what we can do to improve these situations. In the last few laps of the race the tyres were at the end of their life and we were out of the points, so it made sense to retire. Not a good day, but we have to look ahead to Korea and a chance to make amends."
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Let's go Sebastian! Championship is wide open now.
Horrible race direction.
Horrible race direction.
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The start was a mess, it was hard to see from the side track view what was going on as to the collisions. The in-car camera's showed the Lotus's hitting Alonso and Webber.
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"in order to finish first, one must first finish."
FIA is requiring Grosjean to write that a thousand times before the next race
FIA is requiring Grosjean to write that a thousand times before the next race
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Why no new ban?
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Yeongam FP1:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.148
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.450
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:39.575
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.854
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:40.088
6. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.221
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.396
8. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:40.422
9. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.440
10. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.480
11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:40.929
12. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.048
13. Jules Bianchi France Force India-Mercedes 1:41.140
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.220
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.514
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:41.596
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:42.021
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:42.027
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:42.104
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.175
21. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.706
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:42.820
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:44.517
24. Dani Clos Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:45.735
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.148
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.450
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:39.575
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.854
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:40.088
6. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.221
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:40.396
8. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:40.422
9. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.440
10. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.480
11. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:40.929
12. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.048
13. Jules Bianchi France Force India-Mercedes 1:41.140
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.220
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.514
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:41.596
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:42.021
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1:42.027
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:42.104
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.175
21. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.706
22. Giedo van der Garde Netherlands Caterham-Renault 1:42.820
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:44.517
24. Dani Clos Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:45.735
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Yeongam FP2:
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:38.832
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:38.864
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.160
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.219
5. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.330
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.422
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.584
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.717
9. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:39.739
10. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:39.839
11. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:39.957
12. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:40.089
13. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.140
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.445
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.745
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.789
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.997
18. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.200
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:41.602
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.596
21. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.066
22. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:43.067
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:43.869
24. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:44.533
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:38.832
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:38.864
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:39.160
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.219
5. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.330
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:39.422
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:39.584
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.717
9. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:39.739
10. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:39.839
11. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:39.957
12. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:40.089
13. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:40.140
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.445
15. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:40.745
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.789
17. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:40.997
18. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:41.200
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:41.602
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:42.596
21. Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:43.066
22. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:43.067
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:43.869
24. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:44.533
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Red Bulls look fast!
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whats the deal with mercedes recently. The've been getting shown up by Lotus and Sauber as of late, it seems like
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Brawn has abandoned this season and is pouring all resources into 2013?
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Hulkenberg to Sauber 2013, Kobayshi may be on the axing block next
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Ferrari always have a a #1, how's that going to work? The last time they tried this experiment with Prost and Mansell, it didn't work out so well.
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yea i cant see vettel and alonso getting along... neither of them would be fond of team orders and i doubt either would wanna listen especially if both are fighting for the championship which would probably be the case.
I dont see vettel really leaving redbull, but i was wrong about hamilton
I dont see vettel really leaving redbull, but i was wrong about hamilton
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maybe Newey is headed to Ferrari too?
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^ that's a possibility. Ferrari had talks with AN a few years ago between McLaren and Red Bull.
Somehow I don't see this working out in the end, but I do imagine SV will drive for Ferrari one day whether it be 2014 or later.
Somehow I don't see this working out in the end, but I do imagine SV will drive for Ferrari one day whether it be 2014 or later.
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Luca is denying Vettel rumor
http://planetf1.com/news/3213/816613...Ferrari-Claims
Just another boring after race Monday spun up by some rumor
Just another boring after race Monday spun up by some rumor
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Vettel doesn't seem like the kind of person to jump ship like that. I hope it's not true.
Anyway, Alonso had a brave face on the podium yesterday.
Anyway, Alonso had a brave face on the podium yesterday.
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Massa gets a one year contract extension with Ferrari.
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Interesting development. Most already thought that Massa was a goner with Ferrari, given the consistently poor performance.
Interesting development. Most already thought that Massa was a goner with Ferrari, given the consistently poor performance.
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I think he would have been gone if not for his results in the last few races. However, is getting one podium finish in almost 2 years good enough for Ferrari?
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I think its more they cant find someone worthy enough to replace him right away?
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I assume it's just 'easier' to keep him in the car for another until Vettel? or perhaps someone with greater prospects becomes available.
Not to mention the new formula and the learning curve that will entail .... why bring someone on, put them into a learning curve for a platform that won't exist very long and then have to do all over again?
Simpler to keep Massa for one more year.
(Is 2014 the new engine formula?)
Not to mention the new formula and the learning curve that will entail .... why bring someone on, put them into a learning curve for a platform that won't exist very long and then have to do all over again?
Simpler to keep Massa for one more year.
(Is 2014 the new engine formula?)