Austin COTA Updates - 1st F1 Car Laps
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Great, even farther for me to travel
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There is nothing in that press release except PR talk. Even if you go to Full Throttle's website, there is nothing. In fact, Full Throttle has about the same info as USF1's website.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
Personally, after seeing F1's official site list this as it's top news, I'd believe it.
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maybe Full Throttle Productions will allow me the pleasure of throttling the life outta Texas' biggest village idiot: Bush.
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This news was just announced, so give it time. They aren't going to have renderings up immediately after finalizing the deal or have any info on what they plan. All that will come later this year & in 2011.
Personally, after seeing F1's official site list this as it's top news, I'd believe it.
Personally, after seeing F1's official site list this as it's top news, I'd believe it.
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Veteran Formula One circuit designer Herrman Tilke will be responsible for the Austin F1 track, promoter Tavo Hellmund said Wednesday night.
Hellmund also said the project is much further along than has been assumed.
“This has been long in the works,” he told AutoWeek. “Everything is in place.”
Although the former racer told local media on Tuesday that three possible venues were still under consideration, that suggestion was apparently a smokescreen.
While several alternatives were under consideration, Hellmund said one site was settled on some time ago and the land--more than 800 acres--has already been purchased. Additionally, initial permissions for amenities such as water and waste, which are usually time consuming affairs, have already been granted.
Although Hellmund has yet to divulge details, he said that the site is to east of Austin, a few miles from the airport, apparently in hilly countryside that has provided Tilke with a good starting point for a design.
The German architect is charged with creating a fast circuit with challenging corners that resemble those of classic, established tracks such as Silverstone and Spa-Francorchamps.
Tilke first sent a representative of his company to Austin around two years ago and has allegedly made many personal visits since. He is looking for office space in the city from which to base the project.
Hellmund was adamant that Austin is an ideal location.
“Other than New York or L.A., which already have 10 million people, where are you going to find a place that within a 150-mile radius you have three of the top 10 largest markets in the United States? That is the wonderful thing. Our position between Canada and the United States, North, South and Central America, is unbelievable.
“You take that into account, you take into account the draw that Austin is, it’s the state capital, it’s in the hill country, it’s got a huge, huge vibe and tag of being the coolest place.”
As reported previously, the race is set to benefit from the Texas Major Events Trust Fund, which is intended to reimburse cities for costs they face when hosting big sporting events.
However, that relates only to specific events and does not have an impact on the cost of building the facility, budgeted at $200 million. The track project is financed by unknown private investors, Hellmund said.
One of the key elements that helped generate funding is that, aside from F1, the circuit will be used to help develop alternative fuels.
Tavo said he has known F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone since he was a teenager. His father was involved in promoting Indy-car and Trans Am races in Mexico City, and also helped to bring F1 back to the country in 1988. Hellmund’s father was also involved in the 1986 World Cup of soccer and in organizing music events.
Hellmund also said the project is much further along than has been assumed.
“This has been long in the works,” he told AutoWeek. “Everything is in place.”
Although the former racer told local media on Tuesday that three possible venues were still under consideration, that suggestion was apparently a smokescreen.
While several alternatives were under consideration, Hellmund said one site was settled on some time ago and the land--more than 800 acres--has already been purchased. Additionally, initial permissions for amenities such as water and waste, which are usually time consuming affairs, have already been granted.
Although Hellmund has yet to divulge details, he said that the site is to east of Austin, a few miles from the airport, apparently in hilly countryside that has provided Tilke with a good starting point for a design.
The German architect is charged with creating a fast circuit with challenging corners that resemble those of classic, established tracks such as Silverstone and Spa-Francorchamps.
Tilke first sent a representative of his company to Austin around two years ago and has allegedly made many personal visits since. He is looking for office space in the city from which to base the project.
Hellmund was adamant that Austin is an ideal location.
“Other than New York or L.A., which already have 10 million people, where are you going to find a place that within a 150-mile radius you have three of the top 10 largest markets in the United States? That is the wonderful thing. Our position between Canada and the United States, North, South and Central America, is unbelievable.
“You take that into account, you take into account the draw that Austin is, it’s the state capital, it’s in the hill country, it’s got a huge, huge vibe and tag of being the coolest place.”
As reported previously, the race is set to benefit from the Texas Major Events Trust Fund, which is intended to reimburse cities for costs they face when hosting big sporting events.
However, that relates only to specific events and does not have an impact on the cost of building the facility, budgeted at $200 million. The track project is financed by unknown private investors, Hellmund said.
One of the key elements that helped generate funding is that, aside from F1, the circuit will be used to help develop alternative fuels.
Tavo said he has known F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone since he was a teenager. His father was involved in promoting Indy-car and Trans Am races in Mexico City, and also helped to bring F1 back to the country in 1988. Hellmund’s father was also involved in the 1986 World Cup of soccer and in organizing music events.
The event is looking more & more likely to happen.
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Interesting.
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A site for the 2012 United States grand prix has been selected.
It was earlier reported that although a promoter has won the rights to stage the race on a purpose-built track in Austin, Texas, the actual site for the venue is still being decided.
But a lawyer for promoter Full Throttle Productions is quoted by the local American-Statesman newspaper as revealing that land has been secured.
"We're just not ready to disclose it (the actual location) yet," said Richard Suttle.
Suttle also said regular F1 circuit designer Hermann Tilke has been appointed.
But even with the new details, doubts about the project remain, including insider sentiment that it resembles past negotiating moves deployed by F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone.
Until the shock news of the Austin deal emerged, Monticello Motor Club in New York was considered the front runner for a contract.
Club president Ari Straus said the 2012 start-date was the biggest surprise.
"Somebody starting from scratch would not be able to do it until 2013," he said.
The implication could be that if Austin is unable to be ready for 2012, Monticello could be back in the frame for a project the following year.
"If Bernie comes back to the table," Straus said, "Monticello is ready."
But Austin promoter Tavo Hellmund, reportedly a friend of Ecclestone's for decades, said he is not worried about the tight schedule for 2012.
"If it (the date) slides back, it slides back," he said.
Although mainly funded privately, the project will also enjoy some state input, with a letter to Ecclestone signed by Texas governor Rick Perry pledging $25 million per year from the state's Mayor Event Trust Fund
It was earlier reported that although a promoter has won the rights to stage the race on a purpose-built track in Austin, Texas, the actual site for the venue is still being decided.
But a lawyer for promoter Full Throttle Productions is quoted by the local American-Statesman newspaper as revealing that land has been secured.
"We're just not ready to disclose it (the actual location) yet," said Richard Suttle.
Suttle also said regular F1 circuit designer Hermann Tilke has been appointed.
But even with the new details, doubts about the project remain, including insider sentiment that it resembles past negotiating moves deployed by F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone.
Until the shock news of the Austin deal emerged, Monticello Motor Club in New York was considered the front runner for a contract.
Club president Ari Straus said the 2012 start-date was the biggest surprise.
"Somebody starting from scratch would not be able to do it until 2013," he said.
The implication could be that if Austin is unable to be ready for 2012, Monticello could be back in the frame for a project the following year.
"If Bernie comes back to the table," Straus said, "Monticello is ready."
But Austin promoter Tavo Hellmund, reportedly a friend of Ecclestone's for decades, said he is not worried about the tight schedule for 2012.
"If it (the date) slides back, it slides back," he said.
Although mainly funded privately, the project will also enjoy some state input, with a letter to Ecclestone signed by Texas governor Rick Perry pledging $25 million per year from the state's Mayor Event Trust Fund
Looks like we may have a backup too
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Looks like a repeat of Donnington.
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http://www.planet-f1.com/news/3213/6...New-US-Circuit
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...king-for-site/
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New US GP promoter Tavo Hellmund says that he does not yet have a site on which to construct the circuit, but he is looking at three possible locations in Austin.
Hellmund also says no land has been purchased, ....
The [Austin American ]Statesman also summed up the local response: “The announcement stunned many in the Texas auto racing community and surprised and delighted some political leaders, but it left others wondering about significant details — including where a track would be built, who would build it, how much it would cost, who would pay for it and why would an Austin project succeed where others haven't?”
Meanwhile the Austin Business Journal underlined the mystery attached to the project: “City of Austin and Austin Chamber of Commerce officials were unfamiliar with race organizers’ plans and do not appear to have been deeply involved in the deal, according to city and chamber sources. Although Mayor Lee Leffingwell was cited in the news release on the Formula 1 website, a staffer said the mayor was not informed prior to the announcement.”
Hellmund also says no land has been purchased, ....
The [Austin American ]Statesman also summed up the local response: “The announcement stunned many in the Texas auto racing community and surprised and delighted some political leaders, but it left others wondering about significant details — including where a track would be built, who would build it, how much it would cost, who would pay for it and why would an Austin project succeed where others haven't?”
Meanwhile the Austin Business Journal underlined the mystery attached to the project: “City of Austin and Austin Chamber of Commerce officials were unfamiliar with race organizers’ plans and do not appear to have been deeply involved in the deal, according to city and chamber sources. Although Mayor Lee Leffingwell was cited in the news release on the Formula 1 website, a staffer said the mayor was not informed prior to the announcement.”
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Another classic Bernie deal.
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the Bernster now sez he's still looking at NYC area for an additional GP. From none to two? Unbelievable.
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Website is up.
http://www.formula1unitedstates.com/formula1.html
http://www.formula1unitedstates.com/formula1.html
Unites States Grand Prix organisers have confirmed that their new track will be located to the south east of the city, near Austin's international airport, after revealing the backers of the event for the first time.
In a press conference held in Austin on Tuesday, promoter Tavo Hellmund confirmed that well-known American businessman Red McCombs will help bankroll the race, which will take place in an area formerly known as Wandering Creek.
In a press conference held in Austin on Tuesday, promoter Tavo Hellmund confirmed that well-known American businessman Red McCombs will help bankroll the race, which will take place in an area formerly known as Wandering Creek.
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Surprised no one put this up yet. You can find the same a 2D pic (shown below) and a 3D pic of the track at the F1 website (at below link).
Link http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/9/11198.html
Race organisers for the forthcoming United States Grand Prix in Austin, Texas, have released a draft layout of the new circuit that will stage the event from 2012, when Formula One racing returns to the country for the first time in five years.
Working with renowned track architect Hermann Tilke, organisers Full Throttle Productions LP have drawn inspiration from the best circuits around the world, as well as taking advantage of the site’s natural topography to include some dramatic elevation changes.
Turns 3 through 6 look not dissimilar to Silverstone’s high-speed Maggotts/Becketts; Turns 12 through 15 give a nod to Hockenheim's stadium section; and Turns 16 through 18 will mirror the infamous, multi-apex Turn 8 at Istanbul Park.
“The area has natural elevation differences, which promises a fast track with difficult corners,” Hellmund told Formula1.com recently. “But the most essential thing is that has to be a masterpiece in its suitability for fans. Spectators have to be able to see large parts of the track from wherever they are.”
The 3.4 mile (5.47 kilometre), anticlockwise circuit features 20 turns and a total elevation change of 133 feet (40.5 metres), including a steep, uphill run into the hairpin Turn 1, which is expected to become the venue’s signature corner.
Link http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/9/11198.html
Race organisers for the forthcoming United States Grand Prix in Austin, Texas, have released a draft layout of the new circuit that will stage the event from 2012, when Formula One racing returns to the country for the first time in five years.
Working with renowned track architect Hermann Tilke, organisers Full Throttle Productions LP have drawn inspiration from the best circuits around the world, as well as taking advantage of the site’s natural topography to include some dramatic elevation changes.
Turns 3 through 6 look not dissimilar to Silverstone’s high-speed Maggotts/Becketts; Turns 12 through 15 give a nod to Hockenheim's stadium section; and Turns 16 through 18 will mirror the infamous, multi-apex Turn 8 at Istanbul Park.
“The area has natural elevation differences, which promises a fast track with difficult corners,” Hellmund told Formula1.com recently. “But the most essential thing is that has to be a masterpiece in its suitability for fans. Spectators have to be able to see large parts of the track from wherever they are.”
The 3.4 mile (5.47 kilometre), anticlockwise circuit features 20 turns and a total elevation change of 133 feet (40.5 metres), including a steep, uphill run into the hairpin Turn 1, which is expected to become the venue’s signature corner.
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With Tilke doing the design, shouldn't there be a 1-Dimensional depiction as well?
.... Promoters announced Wendesday morning that the track will include grandstands for up to 20,000 spectators at the start and finish, and 50,000 or more around the rest of the track.
The track could cost up to $220 million to build.
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The track could cost up to $220 million to build.
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http://www.formula1unitedstates.com/news.html
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Nice this means progress!bitch
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If Maggots-Becketts and the Istanbul 3 apex turn is put in, that's a pretty good start. The turn I love is 130R from Suzuka.
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I don't know how representative that 3D image is, but going from the start finish line to T1 seems awfully steep.
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I hope I have the money to go to this. How much should I expect to pay if I ever decide to go?? $500-$1000 for the whole trip? I know it depends on seats, say turn 1? Or any good seats where overtaking happens often.
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To get to TX, tickets, hotel, food=$1500 bare minimum I'd say. I do Montreal for a grand w/o food/drinks but can drive there on less than a tank of gas.
Steve: Yes, I'm going for sure. I used to have a lotta fun in Austin many years ago as it was the home of the company I worked for and owned by drag racer Kenny Bernstein.
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To get to TX, tickets, hotel, food=$1500 bare minimum I'd say. I do Montreal for a grand w/o food/drinks but can drive there on less than a tank of gas.
Steve: Yes, I'm going for sure. I used to have a lotta fun in Austin many years ago as it was the home of the company I worked for and owned by drag racer Kenny Bernstein.
Steve: Yes, I'm going for sure. I used to have a lotta fun in Austin many years ago as it was the home of the company I worked for and owned by drag racer Kenny Bernstein.
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start saving now speed, count on $800 for seats/flights. Hotel is where you're going to get hosed. The first year Indy held a race I had a suite in a Hyatt that required me buying 4 nites at close to $3000, ie-they were raping people for everything from Holiday Inns to Hyatts.
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To get to TX, tickets, hotel, food=$1500 bare minimum I'd say. I do Montreal for a grand w/o food/drinks but can drive there on less than a tank of gas.
Steve: Yes, I'm going for sure. I used to have a lotta fun in Austin many years ago as it was the home of the company I worked for and owned by drag racer Kenny Bernstein.
Steve: Yes, I'm going for sure. I used to have a lotta fun in Austin many years ago as it was the home of the company I worked for and owned by drag racer Kenny Bernstein.
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Would love to get out to Lake Travis again while there. You could stand at the edge and see 30 feet straight down it was so clean. Located just outside of Austin in Hill Country. First place I ever scuba dived.
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Not to mention we drove straight there after closing the restaurant in Houston about 200 miles away. We pitched our tents and passed out at about 5:00 a.m. The next day me and my friend Jim, a/k/a "Speedy" went scuba diving. When we re-surfaced, we were right next to a huge float with 3 naked chicks on it as we had camped at "Hippy Hollow," a nude beach we didn't even know about. A whole lotta goin' on that weekend!
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wow, the realism of that rendering is unbelievable
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MotoGP supremo Carmelo Ezpeleta has confirmed that the new Formula 1 venues in Delhi and Austin are in talks to host grand prix motorcycle racing from 2012 and 2013 respectively.
Both were listed along with Singapore and Abu Dhabi as potential future targets for MotoGP last year, and Ezpeleta said he was keen to get India on the schedule for next season if a deal could be concluded before June, when the 2012 calendar will be finalised.
"They are working right now. The FIM has visited Delhi to decide regarding the safety measures," he said.
"We are awaiting the answer from them, but for now to be honest the Delhi people are so concentrated on finishing the circuit for Formula 1 this year, which is a lot of work. We have time until June to know exactly what the situation is."
Ezpeleta said discussions with the Austin group were at an earlier stage, amid suggestions that the track could replace Indianapolis as MotoGP's second United States venue. The MotoGP rights-holder underlined that he would let the Texas organisers focus on their inaugural F1 grand prix initially.
"We are talking with Austin also, but just talking," said Ezpeleta. "It's one of the circuits we are in discussions with. It's a nice project. Again, they need to have 2012 for Formula 1."
He believes the level of interest from potential MotoGP venues is a key indicator of the championship's health despite continuing tough economic conditions.
"Regarding the sponsorship and the health of the championship, it's going well," Ezpeleta said. "We have a lot of requests from many countries for grands prix. We are discussing those. But in principle, we are okay."
Both were listed along with Singapore and Abu Dhabi as potential future targets for MotoGP last year, and Ezpeleta said he was keen to get India on the schedule for next season if a deal could be concluded before June, when the 2012 calendar will be finalised.
"They are working right now. The FIM has visited Delhi to decide regarding the safety measures," he said.
"We are awaiting the answer from them, but for now to be honest the Delhi people are so concentrated on finishing the circuit for Formula 1 this year, which is a lot of work. We have time until June to know exactly what the situation is."
Ezpeleta said discussions with the Austin group were at an earlier stage, amid suggestions that the track could replace Indianapolis as MotoGP's second United States venue. The MotoGP rights-holder underlined that he would let the Texas organisers focus on their inaugural F1 grand prix initially.
"We are talking with Austin also, but just talking," said Ezpeleta. "It's one of the circuits we are in discussions with. It's a nice project. Again, they need to have 2012 for Formula 1."
He believes the level of interest from potential MotoGP venues is a key indicator of the championship's health despite continuing tough economic conditions.
"Regarding the sponsorship and the health of the championship, it's going well," Ezpeleta said. "We have a lot of requests from many countries for grands prix. We are discussing those. But in principle, we are okay."
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The freshly dubbed 'Circuit of the Americas' has officially netted itself a second major international event as confirmation came this afternoon that the MotoGP World Championship will be headed to Austin, TX in 2013.
The announcement of the 10-year-agreement is a major coup for the brand-new venue as MotoGP is widely considered the second biggest international motorsports series trailing only F1. Landing both championships right off the bat lends considerable legitimacy to the project.
The Circuit of the Americas is set to become only the fourth venue in the United States to ever host a Motorcycle Grand Prix World Championship round, joining Daytona International Speedway, Laguna Seca, and Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
The United States currently hosts two MotoGP rounds.
The championship has visited Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca uninterrupted since 2005, the year it replaced World Superbike at the spectacular circuit, ending a ten-year drought during which the Motorcycle Grand Prix World Championship did not race in the States.
The announcement of the 10-year-agreement is a major coup for the brand-new venue as MotoGP is widely considered the second biggest international motorsports series trailing only F1. Landing both championships right off the bat lends considerable legitimacy to the project.
The Circuit of the Americas is set to become only the fourth venue in the United States to ever host a Motorcycle Grand Prix World Championship round, joining Daytona International Speedway, Laguna Seca, and Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
The United States currently hosts two MotoGP rounds.
The championship has visited Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca uninterrupted since 2005, the year it replaced World Superbike at the spectacular circuit, ending a ten-year drought during which the Motorcycle Grand Prix World Championship did not race in the States.
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"Circuit of the Americas" my ass. Whatta crock of shit. China GP is not called "Circuit of Asia" neither is Japan. I'd bet my last dollar there will be an "Indian GP" and not a continental-named GP.