Austin COTA Updates - 1st F1 Car Laps
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05-04-2010, 08:08 AM
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But....I can't see this race happening. Jersey has no money. I've driven by Liberty State Park, and it needs major rework if it wants to hold a race.
05-04-2010, 08:47 PM
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Screw that. City street races suck. Fuck bernie. It needs to be back at Indy or Laguna.
05-04-2010, 10:23 PM
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no shit, JC is a fuckin' armpit
05-05-2010, 06:43 PM
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It alrdy got denied accroding to autoblog haha, soo that track is no more
edit: doesnt mean it wont be jersey just that one envisioned is gone. Eccelstone is pushing for one in the newyork/jersey region, Ive never been to those places so I cant say if that track would be good or bad on the streets.
edit: doesnt mean it wont be jersey just that one envisioned is gone. Eccelstone is pushing for one in the newyork/jersey region, Ive never been to those places so I cant say if that track would be good or bad on the streets.
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05-06-2010, 07:59 AM
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That was quick! Liberty State Park makes even Belle Isle look good.
Jersey City makes sense from a commercial and logistical point of view though. But like Dan said, Bernie's ransom demands would sink any deal in the US.
Jersey City makes sense from a commercial and logistical point of view though. But like Dan said, Bernie's ransom demands would sink any deal in the US.
05-06-2010, 12:53 PM
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Regardless, Watkins Glen or Indy are great choices from motorsports histroy perspective.
And, AFAIK, Indy didn't have any trouble selling tickets did they? How does NY make it better?
Bigger media market? Duh, with cable broadcasting, etc the whole US is part of the market wherever the race is.
You can only sell so many tickets. Assuming you sell out, no gain there.
"Prestige"? Well, the venue can help with that, but from a pure materialistic stand-point, Chicago, LA, Miami, etc could all work.
I just don't get the hang-up on a race in the NYC area.
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I can't say if Watkins Glen is up to F1 standards or not, but thought I'd read something about it NOT being suitable for F1 (facilities wise).
Regardless, Watkins Glen or Indy are great choices from motorsports histroy perspective.
And, AFAIK, Indy didn't have any trouble selling tickets did they? How does NY make it better?
Bigger media market? Duh, with cable broadcasting, etc the whole US is part of the market wherever the race is.
You can only sell so many tickets. Assuming you sell out, no gain there.
"Prestige"? Well, the venue can help with that, but from a pure materialistic stand-point, Chicago, LA, Miami, etc could all work.
I just don't get the hang-up on a race in the NYC area.
Regardless, Watkins Glen or Indy are great choices from motorsports histroy perspective.
And, AFAIK, Indy didn't have any trouble selling tickets did they? How does NY make it better?
Bigger media market? Duh, with cable broadcasting, etc the whole US is part of the market wherever the race is.
You can only sell so many tickets. Assuming you sell out, no gain there.
"Prestige"? Well, the venue can help with that, but from a pure materialistic stand-point, Chicago, LA, Miami, etc could all work.
I just don't get the hang-up on a race in the NYC area.
no hang up about something close to nyc, i live a few hours from watkins glen and it is a great course, like many road courses in the US. I do have to agree with the pits/press etc being up to their standards.
I like to see most races on dedicated road courses not street ones.
I do believe that f1 was run in watkins glen in the 60's or 70's. I think that the race ran through town also.
05-06-2010, 08:49 PM
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Indy-
Pros: Only track in US that has facilities up to US standards.
Cons: F1 peeps hate it. Not glamorous enough.
NYC-
Pros: Big media market. Glamorous.
Cons: No race track so need to have the race on a temp street circuit. Meaning all kinds of red tape.
Pros: Only track in US that has facilities up to US standards.
Cons: F1 peeps hate it. Not glamorous enough.
NYC-
Pros: Big media market. Glamorous.
Cons: No race track so need to have the race on a temp street circuit. Meaning all kinds of red tape.
05-06-2010, 08:51 PM
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IMO, Watkins Glen would be simply too fast to safely run modern F1 cars. They would likely end up having to chicane it, at which point most of the history and charm goes right out the window.
05-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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He should obviously bring it to LA
05-07-2010, 12:39 AM
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Sorry, I meant Bernie's hang up with NYC, not you.
It's the "Big Media Market" I don't get.
When you have 30 baseball teams, each playing 81 home games, then, yeah, I get that NYC is important as a big media market.
But when it's a one-off, what "extra" money or exposrue do you get from a big media market? Especially considering that the whole event will be marketed to and watched by race fans across the US (and Canada) pretty much where ever you have it.
When you have 30 baseball teams, each playing 81 home games, then, yeah, I get that NYC is important as a big media market.
But when it's a one-off, what "extra" money or exposrue do you get from a big media market? Especially considering that the whole event will be marketed to and watched by race fans across the US (and Canada) pretty much where ever you have it.
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The Glen: unbelievable track, probably not up to F1 standards but not by much if at all. It sits in the middle of some of NY's most picturesque scenery but there is nowhere near enough lodging available for the F1 circus and all the spectators to be accomodated. There is no track I'd rather see the US F1 race run than this one b/c of my ahem, status there (see avatar).
05-07-2010, 07:31 AM
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It's the "Big Media Market" I don't get.
When you have 30 baseball teams, each playing 81 home games, then, yeah, I get that NYC is important as a big media market.
But when it's a one-off, what "extra" money or exposrue do you get from a big media market? Especially considering that the whole event will be marketed to and watched by race fans across the US (and Canada) pretty much where ever you have it.
When you have 30 baseball teams, each playing 81 home games, then, yeah, I get that NYC is important as a big media market.
But when it's a one-off, what "extra" money or exposrue do you get from a big media market? Especially considering that the whole event will be marketed to and watched by race fans across the US (and Canada) pretty much where ever you have it.
05-07-2010, 09:00 AM
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Good explaination. Thanks.
Good explaination. Thanks.
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I'd be willing to bet that proportionately, based on each city's size (Indy vs. NYC) that more per capita watch/follow are actually interested in F1 in Indy than NY. The market share size though for NYC is gigantic and any coverage from one of its stations will generate more publicity for sure.
05-07-2010, 09:41 AM
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I'd be willing to bet that proportionately, based on each city's size (Indy vs. NYC) that more per capita watch/follow are actually interested in F1 in Indy than NY. The market share size though for NYC is gigantic and any coverage from one of its stations will generate more publicity for sure.
05-12-2010, 07:34 PM
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you got that right. I always forget how little there actually is. When we go to seneca lake on the booze bus we always stay in geneva. Even with geneva and corning being 45 min away, there still aren't enough hotel rooms.
05-21-2010, 07:48 AM
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New York state could yet be the venue of a United States Grand Prix, after details emerged this week of plans to host a race at the Monticello Motor Club - 90 minutes from Manhattan.
Just a few weeks after a bid to hold a race in New Jersey was scuppered when the mayor ruled it out, it has been revealed that talks are underway for a race at the venue that is located at the foot of the Catskill Mountains.
American publication Autoweek has published a letter from Ari Strauss, the president of the Monticello Motor Club, who talks about meeting F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and having hosted F1 track architect Hermann Tilke at the venue.
In the letter, Strauss says: "A few months ago, [MMC chairman] Bill McMichael and I met with Bernie Ecclestone, President/CEO of Formula One Management (FOM), and discussed the terms for an exclusive 10-year United States Grand Prix to be hosted at MMC.
"Shortly thereafter, Hermann Tilke, the chief engineer and circuit designer for F1, spent time at MMC and confirmed that our track and surrounding properties, with some expansion and minor track modifications, is an excellent location for a Grand Prix
"Since receiving a letter of understanding from FOM confirming their hope to bring the U.S. Grand Prix to Monticello, Bill and I have continued to secure the backing and support of local, state, and federal politicians and organizations."
Despite the hopes expressed by Ecclestone, Strauss does admit that it is far from certain an F1 deal can be pulled off.
"Securing F1 is like winning the Olympics, competition is fierce, and this is not a done deal," he added. "While the prospect of F1 at MMC is exciting, we remain focused on our core business: the club and its members."
The Monticello venue is 4.1 miles long, and features 22 corners.
Just a few weeks after a bid to hold a race in New Jersey was scuppered when the mayor ruled it out, it has been revealed that talks are underway for a race at the venue that is located at the foot of the Catskill Mountains.
American publication Autoweek has published a letter from Ari Strauss, the president of the Monticello Motor Club, who talks about meeting F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and having hosted F1 track architect Hermann Tilke at the venue.
In the letter, Strauss says: "A few months ago, [MMC chairman] Bill McMichael and I met with Bernie Ecclestone, President/CEO of Formula One Management (FOM), and discussed the terms for an exclusive 10-year United States Grand Prix to be hosted at MMC.
"Shortly thereafter, Hermann Tilke, the chief engineer and circuit designer for F1, spent time at MMC and confirmed that our track and surrounding properties, with some expansion and minor track modifications, is an excellent location for a Grand Prix
"Since receiving a letter of understanding from FOM confirming their hope to bring the U.S. Grand Prix to Monticello, Bill and I have continued to secure the backing and support of local, state, and federal politicians and organizations."
Despite the hopes expressed by Ecclestone, Strauss does admit that it is far from certain an F1 deal can be pulled off.
"Securing F1 is like winning the Olympics, competition is fierce, and this is not a done deal," he added. "While the prospect of F1 at MMC is exciting, we remain focused on our core business: the club and its members."
The Monticello venue is 4.1 miles long, and features 22 corners.
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A little birdie told me Charlie Whiting will be paying a visit to the Glen the day after the Canadian GP.
05-21-2010, 11:42 PM
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05-22-2010, 08:35 PM
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Have you been to Monticello, Chief? How is it, based on your biased opinion? 
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I haven't been to Monticello but it looks spectacular doesn't it? That looks like a world class facility to me.
05-24-2010, 07:28 AM
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Unfortunately, with Tilke involved, the track will be reduced from 4 miles to 2 miles and 20 corners.
05-24-2010, 03:55 PM
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Tilke must be sending Bernie some major $$$ or having some hottie over there daily to suck the old guy's dick b/c his track designs do less than nothing for me.
05-25-2010, 01:15 PM
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I guess we were all wrong!
Austin Texas is the location for the US GP
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/25/b...012/#continued
Austin Texas is the location for the US GP
After a three-year hiatus, Formula One is coming back to the states in 2012 and the city that's been chosen to host the World Cup of Motorsports? Austin, Texas. Yes, Austin.
According to the release from F1, the race will be held in the city from 2012 to 2021, and since Austin doesn't have a race track, a facility will be purpose-built to host the events. Get all the details in the press release after the jump.
According to the release from F1, the race will be held in the city from 2012 to 2021, and since Austin doesn't have a race track, a facility will be purpose-built to host the events. Get all the details in the press release after the jump.
05-25-2010, 02:38 PM
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Well, 2012 is far away for enough things to go wrong. Might sound a little pessimistic here, but no details, no location, no explaination of funding,... doesn't give me too much confidence.
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I just got this e from my brother who repeats what you said F-C
http://sn116w.snt116.mail.live.com/d...?wa=wsignin1.0
http://sn116w.snt116.mail.live.com/d...?wa=wsignin1.0
05-25-2010, 03:26 PM
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I just got this e from my brother who repeats what you said F-C
http://sn116w.snt116.mail.live.com/d...?wa=wsignin1.0
http://sn116w.snt116.mail.live.com/d...?wa=wsignin1.0
Is Whiting still planning on visiting WG?
05-25-2010, 03:26 PM
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I have heard that Texas is one of the few states that are financially stable, well more so than most other states. But I got that from some comments so I do not know the validity of that. But we shall see. I'm fine with Texas as long as they build a nice track. And plus that means road trip for me!
I'm excited, hopefully it all works out
05-25-2010, 03:29 PM
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I should have put the press release up on here, I have not read it yet, but here it is
Formula One returns to the United States
Austin, Texas, from the east. The Austin skyline by night, Texas. Austin hill country, Texas. The Austin skyline by day, Texas.
Formula One World Championship Limited and Formula One Administration Limited (together, the F1 Commercial Rights Holder) and Full Throttle Productions, LP, promoter of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™, announce that a historic agreement has been reached for Austin, Texas to serve as the host city of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ for years 2012 through 2021.
"We are extremely honoured and proud to reach an agreement with the F1 Commercial Rights Holder. We have been diligently working together for several years to bring this great event to Austin, the State of Texas and back to the United States. All parties involved have a great amount of trust and confidence in each other and are committed to establishing the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ in Austin, Texas as a prestigious global event," stated Tavo Hellmund, Managing Partner of Full Throttle Productions, LP.
Bernie Ecclestone, President and CEO of the Formula One Group stated: "For the first time in the history of Formula One in the United States, a world-class facility will be purpose-built to host the event. It was thirty years ago that the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ was last held on a purpose-built permanent road course circuit in Watkins Glen, NY (1961-1980), which enjoyed great success. Since then, Formula One has been hosted by Long Beach, Las Vegas, Detroit, Dallas and Phoenix all on temporary street circuits. Indianapolis joined the ranks of host cities in 2000 when they added a road course inside the famed oval. Lewis Hamilton won the last Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ in 2007, signalling the end to eight years at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This however, will be the first time a facility is constructed from the ground up specifically for Formula One in the US."
Mr. Hellmund added: "This is a case of the right timing in the right place. As many Americans know, Austin has earned a reputation as one of the 'it' cities in the United States. Austin features that rare combination of ideal geographic location and beauty. Its fine dining, world-renowned hospitality and excellent transportation infrastructure make Austin ideally suited to host and manage an event of this magnitude. Few cities if any in America could rival the connectivity of all the key elements needed for hosting a Formula 1 event as well as Austin. Now, many people around the world will have the opportunity to experience a world-class event, facility and city."
"We are pleased Texas has the opportunity to be involved with Formula 1 and that an event of this magnitude is coming to Austin," said Susan Combs, Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts. "It has been a pleasure working with Full Throttle Productions, LP and Mr. Hellmund on this project. Their tradition of producing successful major events coupled with a thirty year relationship with Mr. Ecclestone has us looking forward to this worldwide event and the benefits it will bring, including local job creation, increased tourism and a significant economic impact added to our state economy. The visibility and prestige of this event will spotlight our state on an international stage."
Texas Governor Rick Perry conveyed his enthusiasm for the project, explaining "Texas' relatively strong economy continues to draw both national and international attention and I commend Comptroller Combs for her work in bringing this exciting event to the Lone Star State."
City of Austin Mayor Lee Leffingwell continued the positive sentiments, adding "The City of Austin will be proud to host this magnificent event and I look forward to welcoming the participants and fans of Formula One to our City."
Full Throttle Productions, LP acknowledges with great appreciation the efforts of all parties involved including Bernie Ecclestone, President and CEO of the Formula One Group, and the local and state officials of Texas.
"It has been a shared vision and monumental task to reach this agreement. We realize that over the last 30 years there have been one or two missing pieces from the previous editions of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™. We have a tremendous opportunity at hand to do it right - to feature Austin as the backdrop and produce the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ as one of the great sporting events in the world," stated Hellmund.
In addition to the State of Texas being the 11th strongest economy in the world, it has more Fortune 500 company headquarters than any other state. Key features of Austin include:
- State capital nicknamed 'Silicon Hills' for being one of the most important regions in the US for the Technology Industry;
- USA's 15th largest city and is located 145 miles from Houston (4th largest US city), 70 miles from San Antonio (7th largest US city), and 180 miles from Dallas (8th largest US city), population in this triangle is over 22 million;
- perfectly located geographically for North, South and Central American visitors;
- over 130 daily departing international flights within 180 miles;
- over 250,000 hotel rooms within 180 miles;
- desirable year-round climate, with an average annual temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit (20 Celsius);
- geographically located in the Texas Hill Country, easily the most beautiful city in the State, and considered one of the most in the US;
- hotels/downtown/Formula 1 circuit/airport located within close proximity of each other, which is nearly impossible for any other large city in the US;
- world class night life entertainment along renowned 'Sixth Street'; and
- large film industry presence - many movies filmed in the area.
Austin's National Recognition
- Known as "The Live Music Capital of the World"
- Voted "Greenest City in America" (MSN)
- Voted "Least Stressful Large Metro" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Two "Best Cities" in the United States (Money Magazine)
- Voted Top Three "Hippest Cities" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Five "Safest Cities" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Ten "Sports & Fitness Cities" in the USA (Sports Business Journal)
Full Throttle Productions, LP is an Austin, Texas, special event and sports production company that provides event conception, event project management, day of event oversight, staffing and volunteer services, venue planning and logistics support.
More information on the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ will be forthcoming shortly. In the meantime, all queries should be directed to info@fullthrottleproductionslp.com.
Austin, Texas, from the east. The Austin skyline by night, Texas. Austin hill country, Texas. The Austin skyline by day, Texas.
Formula One World Championship Limited and Formula One Administration Limited (together, the F1 Commercial Rights Holder) and Full Throttle Productions, LP, promoter of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™, announce that a historic agreement has been reached for Austin, Texas to serve as the host city of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ for years 2012 through 2021.
"We are extremely honoured and proud to reach an agreement with the F1 Commercial Rights Holder. We have been diligently working together for several years to bring this great event to Austin, the State of Texas and back to the United States. All parties involved have a great amount of trust and confidence in each other and are committed to establishing the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ in Austin, Texas as a prestigious global event," stated Tavo Hellmund, Managing Partner of Full Throttle Productions, LP.
Bernie Ecclestone, President and CEO of the Formula One Group stated: "For the first time in the history of Formula One in the United States, a world-class facility will be purpose-built to host the event. It was thirty years ago that the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ was last held on a purpose-built permanent road course circuit in Watkins Glen, NY (1961-1980), which enjoyed great success. Since then, Formula One has been hosted by Long Beach, Las Vegas, Detroit, Dallas and Phoenix all on temporary street circuits. Indianapolis joined the ranks of host cities in 2000 when they added a road course inside the famed oval. Lewis Hamilton won the last Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ in 2007, signalling the end to eight years at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This however, will be the first time a facility is constructed from the ground up specifically for Formula One in the US."
Mr. Hellmund added: "This is a case of the right timing in the right place. As many Americans know, Austin has earned a reputation as one of the 'it' cities in the United States. Austin features that rare combination of ideal geographic location and beauty. Its fine dining, world-renowned hospitality and excellent transportation infrastructure make Austin ideally suited to host and manage an event of this magnitude. Few cities if any in America could rival the connectivity of all the key elements needed for hosting a Formula 1 event as well as Austin. Now, many people around the world will have the opportunity to experience a world-class event, facility and city."
"We are pleased Texas has the opportunity to be involved with Formula 1 and that an event of this magnitude is coming to Austin," said Susan Combs, Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts. "It has been a pleasure working with Full Throttle Productions, LP and Mr. Hellmund on this project. Their tradition of producing successful major events coupled with a thirty year relationship with Mr. Ecclestone has us looking forward to this worldwide event and the benefits it will bring, including local job creation, increased tourism and a significant economic impact added to our state economy. The visibility and prestige of this event will spotlight our state on an international stage."
Texas Governor Rick Perry conveyed his enthusiasm for the project, explaining "Texas' relatively strong economy continues to draw both national and international attention and I commend Comptroller Combs for her work in bringing this exciting event to the Lone Star State."
City of Austin Mayor Lee Leffingwell continued the positive sentiments, adding "The City of Austin will be proud to host this magnificent event and I look forward to welcoming the participants and fans of Formula One to our City."
Full Throttle Productions, LP acknowledges with great appreciation the efforts of all parties involved including Bernie Ecclestone, President and CEO of the Formula One Group, and the local and state officials of Texas.
"It has been a shared vision and monumental task to reach this agreement. We realize that over the last 30 years there have been one or two missing pieces from the previous editions of the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™. We have a tremendous opportunity at hand to do it right - to feature Austin as the backdrop and produce the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ as one of the great sporting events in the world," stated Hellmund.
In addition to the State of Texas being the 11th strongest economy in the world, it has more Fortune 500 company headquarters than any other state. Key features of Austin include:
- State capital nicknamed 'Silicon Hills' for being one of the most important regions in the US for the Technology Industry;
- USA's 15th largest city and is located 145 miles from Houston (4th largest US city), 70 miles from San Antonio (7th largest US city), and 180 miles from Dallas (8th largest US city), population in this triangle is over 22 million;
- perfectly located geographically for North, South and Central American visitors;
- over 130 daily departing international flights within 180 miles;
- over 250,000 hotel rooms within 180 miles;
- desirable year-round climate, with an average annual temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit (20 Celsius);
- geographically located in the Texas Hill Country, easily the most beautiful city in the State, and considered one of the most in the US;
- hotels/downtown/Formula 1 circuit/airport located within close proximity of each other, which is nearly impossible for any other large city in the US;
- world class night life entertainment along renowned 'Sixth Street'; and
- large film industry presence - many movies filmed in the area.
Austin's National Recognition
- Known as "The Live Music Capital of the World"
- Voted "Greenest City in America" (MSN)
- Voted "Least Stressful Large Metro" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Two "Best Cities" in the United States (Money Magazine)
- Voted Top Three "Hippest Cities" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Five "Safest Cities" in the United States (Forbes)
- Voted Top Ten "Sports & Fitness Cities" in the USA (Sports Business Journal)
Full Throttle Productions, LP is an Austin, Texas, special event and sports production company that provides event conception, event project management, day of event oversight, staffing and volunteer services, venue planning and logistics support.
More information on the Formula 1 United States Grand Prix™ will be forthcoming shortly. In the meantime, all queries should be directed to info@fullthrottleproductionslp.com.
05-25-2010, 03:42 PM
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There is nothing in that press release except PR talk. Even if you go to Full Throttle's website, there is nothing. In fact, Full Throttle has about the same info as USF1's website.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
05-25-2010, 07:50 PM
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There is nothing in that press release except PR talk. Even if you go to Full Throttle's website, there is nothing. In fact, Full Throttle has about the same info as USF1's website.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
You would think that to land the USGP, the promoter would have details of their plan to organize the race, some track layout, and artist renderings.
