2016 Formula One Fantasy League - Rules Discussion
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2016 Formula One Fantasy League - Rules Discussion
I just realized that there are only 2 weeks to the start of the season.
Please review the rules from the 2015 season (post #1). If anyone wants to propose any rule changes, now is the time to discuss. Rules will be finalized by March 8.
I know at least one person was very unhappy with how bonus points were handed out for predicting the final standings. The purpose of the bonus points is to provide some twist and turns. However, if you feel that the the weighting of the bonus became too twisty and too turny, then now is the time to propose changes. If we want to, we can even take out the bonus points completely.
Please review the rules from the 2015 season (post #1). If anyone wants to propose any rule changes, now is the time to discuss. Rules will be finalized by March 8.
I know at least one person was very unhappy with how bonus points were handed out for predicting the final standings. The purpose of the bonus points is to provide some twist and turns. However, if you feel that the the weighting of the bonus became too twisty and too turny, then now is the time to propose changes. If we want to, we can even take out the bonus points completely.
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In for this year. I'll play by whatever rules.
Driver
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Räikkönen
Constructor
1. Mercedes AMG
2. Red Bull-Renault
3. Ferrari
Driver
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Räikkönen
Constructor
1. Mercedes AMG
2. Red Bull-Renault
3. Ferrari
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Bonus points:
2 points for each successive race you remain the leader, for example
Race 1: West
Race 2: West (+2)
Race 3: West (+4)
Race 4 Chief (0)
Race 5: FC (0)
Race 6 FC (+2)
Ditch that manufacturer/driver bonus altogether.
2 points for each successive race you remain the leader, for example
Race 1: West
Race 2: West (+2)
Race 3: West (+4)
Race 4 Chief (0)
Race 5: FC (0)
Race 6 FC (+2)
Ditch that manufacturer/driver bonus altogether.
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Driver:
Hamilton
Vettel
Bottas
Constructor:
Mercedes
Ferrari
Williams
Hamilton
Vettel
Bottas
Constructor:
Mercedes
Ferrari
Williams
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That's interesting.
PRO: Could make people more aggressive with their picks to maintain the lead.
CON: Awards people already in front. It's like giving the 1% () a tax break.
What do people think about ditching the championship bonus?
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^ I like it, let's switch it up.
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I think +2 points for maintaining the lead is a bit too much. This would make comebacks too difficult. So I'm against it. I am in favor of ditching the bonus points for the championship though.
RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: -0-
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 8.
RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: -0-
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 8.
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Don't set the deadline too damn soon AGAIN. You have 2 full weeks before the first race.
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Here's no rish
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I didn't participate last year so I have no idea what complaints there were, but I like the championship bonus points (per 2a, yes?) as it stands.
I'm indifferent on the +2 for maintaining the lead.
So please put me down as:
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
Against
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For
Amod can delete this post after recording above, to minimize clutter.
I'm indifferent on the +2 for maintaining the lead.
So please put me down as:
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
Against
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For
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Not really. I don't think it is appropriate to lock down the rules on the eve of the first race. Let's say at the last minute we maintain the championship bonuses, well, some people might not have submitted their picks for that.
We can extend the deadline to the last minute, but if that is the case, people should still submit their championship predictions now, just in case.
We can extend the deadline to the last minute, but if that is the case, people should still submit their championship predictions now, just in case.
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I didn't participate last year so I have no idea what complaints there were, but I like the championship bonus points (per 2a, yes?) as it stands.
I'm indifferent on the +2 for maintaining the lead.
So please put me down as:
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
Against
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For
Amod can delete this post after recording above, to minimize clutter.
I'm indifferent on the +2 for maintaining the lead.
So please put me down as:
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
Against
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For
Amod can delete this post after recording above, to minimize clutter.
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
As for the championship bonus points, I'm indifferent to keeping them or not. I'd say if we decide on an alternative "bonus" point system then cancel out the season bonus.
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler
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But you're a fan of disproportionately awarded points a la last year because of the gap from 1-2nd? If that's what we are doing with championship points I'm out. I'm not playing that stupid little game again. Additionally, I led like 9 races which would be 16 points bonus. That's nowhere near the tally created by this driver/mfr scenario.
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Let's think about this for a moment.
What is the purpose of having bonus points?
If you look back at the initial intent, it was meant to give a surprise boost at the end of the year. The problem we had was that it's >90% certain that Mercedes and Hamilton will win the championship in the current state. So if everyone picks the same champion at the beginning of the year, then it's pointless. That was why I made the change at the beginning of last year. In effect, picking the third place finisher became the key to getting the bonus boost.
Maybe the bonus point was too extreme, so that might be the real discussion we should be having.
On the other hand, the +2 points system for maintaining the lead could make it impossible for others to catch up. If we had that system last year, Chief would have had an insurmountable lead well before the last race. So I think that is too extreme as well.
That's why I'm in favor of no bonus points at all. Just keep it simple. Straight up battle to the end.
What is the purpose of having bonus points?
If you look back at the initial intent, it was meant to give a surprise boost at the end of the year. The problem we had was that it's >90% certain that Mercedes and Hamilton will win the championship in the current state. So if everyone picks the same champion at the beginning of the year, then it's pointless. That was why I made the change at the beginning of last year. In effect, picking the third place finisher became the key to getting the bonus boost.
Maybe the bonus point was too extreme, so that might be the real discussion we should be having.
On the other hand, the +2 points system for maintaining the lead could make it impossible for others to catch up. If we had that system last year, Chief would have had an insurmountable lead well before the last race. So I think that is too extreme as well.
That's why I'm in favor of no bonus points at all. Just keep it simple. Straight up battle to the end.
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2
Majority rules, so have your say before it's too late. Deadline is 11:59pm EST March 15.
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Sorry I am late on this,...
All this bonus points for this, that, and the other is nonsense. I vote no bonus for anything. And while we are at it, screw dropping your lowest race at the end of the year too. Just make it purely based on what you're awarded for your driver/team pic from each week. No gimmicks.
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
All this bonus points for this, that, and the other is nonsense. I vote no bonus for anything. And while we are at it, screw dropping your lowest race at the end of the year too. Just make it purely based on what you're awarded for your driver/team pic from each week. No gimmicks.
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
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All this bonus points for this, that, and the other is nonsense. I vote no bonus for anything. And while we are at it, screw dropping your lowest race at the end of the year too. Just make it purely based on what you're awarded for your driver/team pic from each week. No gimmicks.
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Sorry I am late on this,...
All this bonus points for this, that, and the other is nonsense. I vote no bonus for anything. And while we are at it, screw dropping your lowest race at the end of the year too. Just make it purely based on what you're awarded for your driver/team pic from each week. No gimmicks.
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
All this bonus points for this, that, and the other is nonsense. I vote no bonus for anything. And while we are at it, screw dropping your lowest race at the end of the year too. Just make it purely based on what you're awarded for your driver/team pic from each week. No gimmicks.
In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: Chief, 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT
West, do you, or anyone else propose eliminating the dropping of the lowest points? The original purpose was because sometimes people forget to make a pick and then they get discouraged and stop playing. In reality, I don't think it makes too much of a difference, because most people get a goose egg at some point.
You could also argue that dropping this would encourage people to be less lazy.
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Originally Posted by foxriderar77
I like simple, am I too late to join? I know the season starts in a week
RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief
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That's what it looks like. Read the rules from last year's thread, post 1. You just pick your selection for each race. Choose wisely, because you can only pick the same driver 3 times, and each constructor 4 times.
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West, do you, or anyone else propose eliminating the dropping of the lowest points? The original purpose was because sometimes people forget to make a pick and then they get discouraged and stop playing. In reality, I don't think it makes too much of a difference, because most people get a goose egg at some point.
You could also argue that dropping this would encourage people to be less lazy.
You could also argue that dropping this would encourage people to be less lazy.
No, what it inadvertently encourages is someone getting a zero as a low score and another getting a "2" for example. F-C and West are tied at the end of the season except F-C's lowest score is a "0" while West's is a "2." West would then lose by 2 points because of that rule. It's unfair and should be dropped altogether. Don't pick a champ, a team, no bonus, no dropped lowest score.
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: Chief
Against:
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: Chief
Against:
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West, do you, or anyone else propose eliminating the dropping of the lowest points? The original purpose was because sometimes people forget to make a pick and then they get discouraged and stop playing. In reality, I don't think it makes too much of a difference, because most people get a goose egg at some point.
You could also argue that dropping this would encourage people to be less lazy.
You could also argue that dropping this would encourage people to be less lazy.
No, what it inadvertently encourages is someone getting a zero as a low score and another getting a "2" for example. F-C and West are tied at the end of the season except F-C's lowest score is a "0" while West's is a "2." West would then lose by 2 points because of that rule. It's unfair and should be dropped altogether. Don't pick a champ, a team, no bonus, no dropped lowest score.
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief
Against:
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief
Against:
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^
1.)In Favor
2.)Against
3.)In Favor
1.)In Favor
2.)Against
3.)In Favor
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Driver
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Räikkönen
Constructor
1. Mercedes AMG
2. Ferrari
3. Williams
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Räikkönen
Constructor
1. Mercedes AMG
2. Ferrari
3. Williams
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^^ why'd you pick drivers/manufacturers?
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, fsttyms1
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief, fsttyms1
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief, fsttyms1
Against:
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, fsttyms1
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief, fsttyms1
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief, fsttyms1
Against:
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RULE CHANGE VOTE TRACKER
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
Against:
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In favor of no bonus points for the championship:
For: Chief, 00TL, F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
Against: cu2wagon
In favor of +2 bonus points for maintaining the lead after each race:
For: 00TL, cu2wagon
Against: F-C, Dougler, icy2, West6MT, foxriderar77, Chief, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
In favor of removing the current rule of dropping the lowest score:
For: West, Chief, fsttyms1, Mugen.Justice
Against: