Getting a deposit back from a Builder
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Getting a deposit back from a Builder
Ok- second thread I started today in this section but here it goes-
Wife and I signed a contract about 6 months ago on a brand new home to be built by the builder. I had to give a 5% NON-REFUNDABLE deposit down. Before signing this contract, we were keeping a close eye on this other house but alas it was out of our price range at the time so we decided to "settle" on the new home w/ the builder.
6 months later, everything is going fine UNTIL (1) I contact the builder and find out they reduced the base price of the home by 20k and offered to pay more of the closing costs and (2) the original house were keeping an eye on had significantly dropped in price and was now in our price range.
At the current time, the "stage" that the house is in is pre-drywall and none of the options that we chose have been installed. Essentially, it is still in a stage where another buyer can come in and compeltely change things up to the home.
At any rate, I called up the builder and spoke to the sales counselor ( who is a friend of mine) and voiced my concern over the price drop and the "negative equity" I have in my potential new home. The sales counselor went to the builder and they eventually offered me 14k - which is fair considering she got me a great deal to begin with.
After talking it over with my wife, we decided to go after the other house and eat the 5% we put down IF WE HAD TO. My friend, the sales counselor, said she will do anything she can to get my deposit back. The house under construction is currently in a holding pattern. I told them I am backing out of the deal. The sole remedy per the contract is that the builder gets to keep the deposit.
I've read the contract thoroughly, and it is pretty clear that the deposit is non-refundable if I default (which I am). However, recently I have seen a couple of ads by lawyers who specifically practice in getting deposits back from builders. I realize that I am the one defaulting here but the fact that the builder lowered the price and offered more incentives to other purchasers bothered me and who is to say that they won't do it again AFTER I close?
I am closing on the other house at the end of the month, so we're pretty stoked about that. Any people in the know care to chime in?
Cliffnotes:
Signed contract with builder to build me a new home
Backed out of the contract because the builder lowered their price and upped their incentives and also because the house we really wanted significantly dropped in price
House being built is in pre-drywall stage and none of the options we chose have been implemented
Can I get my deposit back?
There are some attorneys that practice in Florida that deal w/ this particular issue.
Please provide any insight.
Thanks for reading.
Wife and I signed a contract about 6 months ago on a brand new home to be built by the builder. I had to give a 5% NON-REFUNDABLE deposit down. Before signing this contract, we were keeping a close eye on this other house but alas it was out of our price range at the time so we decided to "settle" on the new home w/ the builder.
6 months later, everything is going fine UNTIL (1) I contact the builder and find out they reduced the base price of the home by 20k and offered to pay more of the closing costs and (2) the original house were keeping an eye on had significantly dropped in price and was now in our price range.
At the current time, the "stage" that the house is in is pre-drywall and none of the options that we chose have been installed. Essentially, it is still in a stage where another buyer can come in and compeltely change things up to the home.
At any rate, I called up the builder and spoke to the sales counselor ( who is a friend of mine) and voiced my concern over the price drop and the "negative equity" I have in my potential new home. The sales counselor went to the builder and they eventually offered me 14k - which is fair considering she got me a great deal to begin with.
After talking it over with my wife, we decided to go after the other house and eat the 5% we put down IF WE HAD TO. My friend, the sales counselor, said she will do anything she can to get my deposit back. The house under construction is currently in a holding pattern. I told them I am backing out of the deal. The sole remedy per the contract is that the builder gets to keep the deposit.
I've read the contract thoroughly, and it is pretty clear that the deposit is non-refundable if I default (which I am). However, recently I have seen a couple of ads by lawyers who specifically practice in getting deposits back from builders. I realize that I am the one defaulting here but the fact that the builder lowered the price and offered more incentives to other purchasers bothered me and who is to say that they won't do it again AFTER I close?
I am closing on the other house at the end of the month, so we're pretty stoked about that. Any people in the know care to chime in?
Cliffnotes:
Signed contract with builder to build me a new home
Backed out of the contract because the builder lowered their price and upped their incentives and also because the house we really wanted significantly dropped in price
House being built is in pre-drywall stage and none of the options we chose have been implemented
Can I get my deposit back?
There are some attorneys that practice in Florida that deal w/ this particular issue.
Please provide any insight.
Thanks for reading.
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99.99% chance you will not be getting that money back.
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I don't practice law in FL, but in CA you would likely be out of luck, although you might get some of the money back from a mediation procedure if the builder agreed to that.
I assume that your original builder is not also the builder of the "other house" and thus cannot transfer your deposit to the new house.
I assume that your original builder is not also the builder of the "other house" and thus cannot transfer your deposit to the new house.
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I am in real estate and basically your fucked. Builders contracts are typically iron clad and not to mention the costs you will incur to sue him will be much more than what you would lose in the end anyways. Close on it and hope the market turns around in the next few years 2009 and make it back in appreciation.
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
I don't practice law in FL, but in CA you would likely be out of luck, although you might get some of the money back from a mediation procedure if the builder agreed to that.
I assume that your original builder is not also the builder of the "other house" and thus cannot transfer your deposit to the new house.
I assume that your original builder is not also the builder of the "other house" and thus cannot transfer your deposit to the new house.
No, the they are two different builders. When my wife saw the original house drop in price dramatically, she told me- "YOU better not lose this house. I don't care how much we lose in the other deposit"....
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Originally Posted by LotusTracker
I am in real estate and basically your fucked. Builders contracts are typically iron clad and not to mention the costs you will incur to sue him will be much more than what you would lose in the end anyways. Close on it and hope the market turns around in the next few years 2009 and make it back in appreciation.
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I doubt builders are too sympathetic to buyers who back out of contracts, considering the bath they've been taking in FL.
Chalk it up to lessons learned.
Chalk it up to lessons learned.
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You may not get out of the contract, but keep playing hard ball with the builder. I am sure that you will get what you want, how about more free upgrade (finished basement, etc..) and more money toward closing cost?
This is a buyer market, the builder rather sell the house to you than let you walk; eventhough, you will lose the deposit.
This is a buyer market, the builder rather sell the house to you than let you walk; eventhough, you will lose the deposit.
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This kind of stuff drives me nuts. You made a deal, changed your mind and now you want to screw the builder.
Unless you have some sort of state statute in FL that says clauses like those are void (which I doubt), live with the deal and the choices you made.
Unless you have some sort of state statute in FL that says clauses like those are void (which I doubt), live with the deal and the choices you made.
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^^ Your right- I did make a deal and changed my mind AFTER the builder lowered the asking price of the same home after I signed the contract. In all fairness, the builder did offer 14k in additional concessions to me BUT who is to say they won't do it again. I certainly don't want negative equity in a new home much less in this type of real estate market.
Like I said earlier, I'm not losing too much sleep over it BUT I do want a Real Estate lawyer's opinion on the situation.
Like I said earlier, I'm not losing too much sleep over it BUT I do want a Real Estate lawyer's opinion on the situation.
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Update: I talked to my friend- the sales counselor. She said that there might be a potential buyer for the home because they are looking to get in the same model that I chose but can't wait the full 6-12 months for a brand spanking new one. Since mine doesn't even have any options or drywall up, she said it might work out that if she can get the house closed with the new buyer there is a chance I could get half of the deposit back.
My friend also said that the potential buyer would not have even considered buying if it weren't for my home that is in the process of being built because of the time frame involved. In this particular scenario, the builder doesn't get screwed and I do get some of the monies back.
My friend also said that the potential buyer would not have even considered buying if it weren't for my home that is in the process of being built because of the time frame involved. In this particular scenario, the builder doesn't get screwed and I do get some of the monies back.
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I certainly don't want negative equity in a new home much less in this type of real estate market.
Like I said earlier, I'm not losing too much sleep over it BUT I do want a Real Estate lawyer's opinion on the situation.
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Fortunately, these lawyers work on contingency fee basis'. No money out of pocket.
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Originally Posted by ggesq
Fortunately, these lawyers work on contingency fee basis'. No money out of pocket.
Usually only Ambulance Chasers and Class Action work on a contingency basis, never heard of RE Attorney's doing so.
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