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I knew I won this argument since I saw that the new SHO was twin turbo ECO-BOOST. and Jaydubb failed in his argument as welll..
GOD DAMN 12.8 tune only. We still have exhaust, turbo upgrade, boost control, intercooler, gears....
GOD DAMN 12.8 tune only. We still have exhaust, turbo upgrade, boost control, intercooler, gears....
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I already know the response, but its turbo but its awd.. blah blah blah. Say that next time granpa blows buy you....
Response but its 4402 lbs.... crickets.................................crickets again...............rocky wins the fight...............................light turns out............. aLI Leaves the building and down steps///////....../////////////--------------------------.
60mph and then 3 honks?
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No you have to go back and read some post ago..
The argument was that jaypee said a g35 13.5 @105 is a faster car than the 13.7@ 103 taurus sho stock. I suggested the sho is not bad considerin it runs on 87 octane and weighs 4402 while the g35 sedan runs on 93 octane and is at 3700lbs. Next argument was that a modded g35 sedan would be wayyyyy faster than a modded SHO. 12.75 just proves that its faster than built motor twin turbo meth runnin fail of g35's who are still in the 13's after gettin butt rapped by altered atmosphere or wherever.lol lmao ..
The argument was that jaypee said a g35 13.5 @105 is a faster car than the 13.7@ 103 taurus sho stock. I suggested the sho is not bad considerin it runs on 87 octane and weighs 4402 while the g35 sedan runs on 93 octane and is at 3700lbs. Next argument was that a modded g35 sedan would be wayyyyy faster than a modded SHO. 12.75 just proves that its faster than built motor twin turbo meth runnin fail of g35's who are still in the 13's after gettin butt rapped by altered atmosphere or wherever.lol lmao ..
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No you have to go back and read some post ago..
The argument was that jaypee said a g35 13.5 @105 is a faster car than the 13.7@ 103 taurus sho stock. I suggested the sho is not bad considerin it runs on 87 octane and weighs 4402 while the g35 sedan runs on 93 octane and is at 3700lbs. Next argument was that a modded g35 sedan would be wayyyyy faster than a modded SHO. 12.75 just proves that its faster than built motor twin turbo meth runnin fail of g35's who are still in the 13's after gettin butt rapped by altered atmosphere or wherever.lol lmao ..
The argument was that jaypee said a g35 13.5 @105 is a faster car than the 13.7@ 103 taurus sho stock. I suggested the sho is not bad considerin it runs on 87 octane and weighs 4402 while the g35 sedan runs on 93 octane and is at 3700lbs. Next argument was that a modded g35 sedan would be wayyyyy faster than a modded SHO. 12.75 just proves that its faster than built motor twin turbo meth runnin fail of g35's who are still in the 13's after gettin butt rapped by altered atmosphere or wherever.lol lmao ..
Altered Atmosphere...what a f'in joke!
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Sorry 12.75@108= VQ FTMF FAIL!NO G35 OR G37 SEDAN FOUND. ECOBOOST shittin on them all!
I already know the response, but its turbo but its awd.. blah blah blah. Say that next time granpa blows buy you....
Response but its 4402 lbs.... crickets.................................crickets again...............rocky wins the fight...............................light turns out............. aLI Leaves the building and down steps///////....../////////////--------------------------.
I already know the response, but its turbo but its awd.. blah blah blah. Say that next time granpa blows buy you....
Response but its 4402 lbs.... crickets.................................crickets again...............rocky wins the fight...............................light turns out............. aLI Leaves the building and down steps///////....../////////////--------------------------.
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Hello fellow racers, I just wanted to check in and see how you all were doing. I know it has been some time since you all have seen me or since I have beaten up on most of you but hopefully everyone is well. Wit the end of the season a mere weeks away, I hope that those of you whom took harsh beatings from me has had the chance to perform upgrades in which would hopefully render your vehicles albe to beat mines if such a racing situation was to occur. I look forward to seeing you all at MIR next month for race wars, im sure most of you will put on a good show before you are eliminated by other slow 14 second cars..
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And the crowd goes wild. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWW WHAT YOU GONNA DOO.LMBO
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Yeah yeah yeah. Direct Injection FTW. I believe that the ONLY reason a 10:1 compression engine can handle 15 PSI of boost. ANY other engine would go (on 93 octane). I wonder what kinda gas they were running...
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From the owner of the 12.75 SHO on the Corvette Forums...
OK. SUPER RICH for safety. I bet if it was running 11-11.5 A/F it would blow the fuck up. Also, they back the timing WAY DOWN. I bet if it ran anywhere in the 20* range... .
Now, super-rich A/F and low timing = eventual pistin ring washdown and eventual burned exhaust valves. 10:1 comp ratio and 15PSI usually means super rich A/F and stupid low timing is required to make the car live on 93 octane gas. It also means that the engine is not running efficiently. Now put some race gas in it, turn the timing back up and lean it out a bit = HOLD ON!!!
Just in case Steve thinks I copied bogus text from somewhere, here is the link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-...the-12s-2.html
Scroll down to post #23...
P.S. Make sure you take a look at post #25. LOL!
car ran a 13.84 bone stock @ 100 2.09 60'
first tune, playing with the timing and a/f and torque management the car went 13.52 @ 101.89 2.04 60' the factory timing was only 9 degrees!!!!!
2nd tune raising the rev limiter from 6250 to 6500 rpms and playing with the launch it went 13.13 @ 104.16 1.88 60'
this last tune, was in the 10's a/f for safety and increased the boost about 4-5 psi, timing was dropped back down
car went 12.75@108 with a 1.90 60', the tune hasn't been dialed in on the street yesterday, it has a couple of flat spots and once it's dialed in i think there are at least 2 more tenths there on a pump gas tune,
should be able to get the car down to 12.5's or 12.4's on a pump gas only tune with no other mods,
i personally think that is strong as death at 4550 lbs with me in it
thats about 1k more than a corvette
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first tune, playing with the timing and a/f and torque management the car went 13.52 @ 101.89 2.04 60' the factory timing was only 9 degrees!!!!!
2nd tune raising the rev limiter from 6250 to 6500 rpms and playing with the launch it went 13.13 @ 104.16 1.88 60'
this last tune, was in the 10's a/f for safety and increased the boost about 4-5 psi, timing was dropped back down
car went 12.75@108 with a 1.90 60', the tune hasn't been dialed in on the street yesterday, it has a couple of flat spots and once it's dialed in i think there are at least 2 more tenths there on a pump gas tune,
should be able to get the car down to 12.5's or 12.4's on a pump gas only tune with no other mods,
i personally think that is strong as death at 4550 lbs with me in it
thats about 1k more than a corvette
very very respectful
Now, super-rich A/F and low timing = eventual pistin ring washdown and eventual burned exhaust valves. 10:1 comp ratio and 15PSI usually means super rich A/F and stupid low timing is required to make the car live on 93 octane gas. It also means that the engine is not running efficiently. Now put some race gas in it, turn the timing back up and lean it out a bit = HOLD ON!!!
Just in case Steve thinks I copied bogus text from somewhere, here is the link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-...the-12s-2.html
Scroll down to post #23...
P.S. Make sure you take a look at post #25. LOL!
Went to court for THAT NIGHT today. My lawyer had to request a jury trail and push the date back. He talked to the police officer and he said that he identified me as the driver of the car that night which is a LIE. And he said that when he talked to me on the phone I told him that I was driving the car at the time that it all went down which is also a LIE. SOOO glad I got a lawyer. I told the lawyer everything that happened from the time I got the phone call on and nothing more. The plan was to have the police officer Identify me in the courtroom since never saw my face that night. BUT the officer pulled my picture from the MVA database and blew it up and brought it to court so he would know who I was. I'm going to meet with my lawyer again to tell him the rest of the story but it really wont change anything but it may give him more to work with.
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Went to court for THAT NIGHT today. My lawyer had to request a jury trail and push the date back. He talked to the police officer and he said that he identified me as the driver of the car that night which is a LIE. And he said that when he talked to me on the phone I told him that I was driving the car at the time that it all went down which is also a LIE. SOOO glad I got a lawyer. I told the lawyer everything that happened from the time I got the phone call on and nothing more. The plan was to have the police officer Identify me in the courtroom since never saw my face that night. BUT the officer pulled my picture from the MVA database and blew it up and brought it to court so he would know who I was. I'm going to meet with my lawyer again to tell him the rest of the story but it really wont change anything but it may give him more to work with.
Jeesh all you did was run, and they givin you all that. I ran through rush hour traffic through crowded neighborhoods and had 9 of them behind me, and they didnt even bother to show... Guess it was my luck.... Ey, doesnt your car have tint??? How could he see through the tint at night if he never pulled beside you.............. Are you workin with my law firm????
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From the owner of the 12.75 SHO on the Corvette Forums...
OK. SUPER RICH for safety. I bet if it was running 11-11.5 A/F it would blow the fuck up. Also, they back the timing WAY DOWN. I bet if it ran anywhere in the 20* range... .
Now, super-rich A/F and low timing = eventual pistin ring washdown and eventual burned exhaust valves. 10:1 comp ratio and 15PSI usually means super rich A/F and stupid low timing is required to make the car live on 93 octane gas. It also means that the engine is not running efficiently. Now put some race gas in it, turn the timing back up and lean it out a bit = HOLD ON!!!
Just in case Steve thinks I copied bogus text from somewhere, here is the link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-...the-12s-2.html
Scroll down to post #23...
P.S. Make sure you take a look at post #25. LOL!
OK. SUPER RICH for safety. I bet if it was running 11-11.5 A/F it would blow the fuck up. Also, they back the timing WAY DOWN. I bet if it ran anywhere in the 20* range... .
Now, super-rich A/F and low timing = eventual pistin ring washdown and eventual burned exhaust valves. 10:1 comp ratio and 15PSI usually means super rich A/F and stupid low timing is required to make the car live on 93 octane gas. It also means that the engine is not running efficiently. Now put some race gas in it, turn the timing back up and lean it out a bit = HOLD ON!!!
Just in case Steve thinks I copied bogus text from somewhere, here is the link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/off-...the-12s-2.html
Scroll down to post #23...
P.S. Make sure you take a look at post #25. LOL!
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nEXT POINT, the 2010 cts-v supercahrged v8 w/ 550hp and curb weight of 4200lb went 12.6 @ 114.... You figure out the validity of that point. So in essence I could go buy a 40k taurus and pay an extra $300 for a tune and sit next to a 60k 4 door vette and hold my own.. I would be very pleased.. I dont know of a Gthirty anything that can say the same with a $300 mod. I guess maybe one of the nissan lovers can prove me wrong then we will debate it..
Ps, I would love to own the new cts-v over the sho anyday.....
Ps, I would love to own the new cts-v over the sho anyday.....
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Again we are talkin about if and whens??? Put a turbo on a stock compression maxima motor with 15psi=boom. Who cares, The Point Is This Fellas He ran a 12.7 @ 4550lbs w/driver w tune which included, torque management mod, boost increase, a/f tune, a dropped the timing... I came name about 4 people atleast on this board who have done alot more and not for $300, which the guy quoted he paid for this.. Just, face it WHAT 4550lb brick auto sedan comes close to that with only a tune. Give it its godamn props. Cause if someone here had one and did the tune there is only one car that could beat it and thats curtis,tl. If he blows a motor oh well, but he hasnt so STFU!!!
He dropped the timing, ran it stupid rich and upped the boost. OK...
They dropped the timing so it wont blow up on added boost.
They ran it super rich so it wont blow up on added boost.
And they took the airbox off. OK, ummm, it didnt make a differnce on the dyno but I know it helped the spool-up. Oh yeah, wasnt it cold when they ran that ET?
Point? The folks that tuned it KNOW that its not an optimal setup. I do give Direct Injection its props. I even gave the car its props for what they have done with it so far. But TECHNICALLY (even the owner admitted) that is not tuned right. Theyre Band-Aid'ing the car tune wise to make sure it wont go pop on 93 octane. Now, RACE GAS WILL HELP but I understand that the owner doesnt wanna blow it up.
Im not downing the car so get out of ur feelings please. Oh yeah, the owner pulled the passenger seat (and he said he weighs 285). And the car is AWD. MPH = HP. The AWD is REALLY helping the ET's. The CTS-V had 11 second MPH (114). The ET? Damned CTS-V cant hook. The SHO is getting 1.90 60ft times and only runs 108? The CTS-V weighs a lil more than that and doesnt get nowhere near the same 60ft times. Yeah... AWD helps the 60ft and the ET. Traction helps the 60ft and the ET.
I wanna see how long before he blows that bitch up. I bet the car goes super lean when he gets an aftermarket exhaust, downpipe and turbo's. I bet the fuel system wont be able to keep up.
Its a fast car. OK. It will never see an 11 second ET without race gas or Nitrous. It doesnt handle worth a shit (proven on SPEED channel already) and it has shitty brakes. I guess Ford is building them like GM now. "We will give these idiots a whole lotta power, shit for brakes, shit for suspension and let them kill themselves". Im starting to like BMW even though I cant afford to mod one of them...
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Damn, Im wonderin why this particular officer is being so gun-ho on pinnin you to the wall prolly cause he got smoked,lol.. Was his name Officer Skanks???? hes a b hole....
Jeesh all you did was run, and they givin you all that. I ran through rush hour traffic through crowded neighborhoods and had 9 of them behind me, and they didnt even bother to show... Guess it was my luck.... Ey, doesnt your car have tint??? How could he see through the tint at night if he never pulled beside you.............. Are you workin with my law firm????
Jeesh all you did was run, and they givin you all that. I ran through rush hour traffic through crowded neighborhoods and had 9 of them behind me, and they didnt even bother to show... Guess it was my luck.... Ey, doesnt your car have tint??? How could he see through the tint at night if he never pulled beside you.............. Are you workin with my law firm????
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Damn, Im wonderin why this particular officer is being so gun-ho on pinnin you to the wall prolly cause he got smoked,lol.. Was his name Officer Skanks???? hes a b hole....
Jeesh all you did was run, and they givin you all that. I ran through rush hour traffic through crowded neighborhoods and had 9 of them behind me, and they didnt even bother to show... Guess it was my luck.... Ey, doesnt your car have tint??? How could he see through the tint at night if he never pulled beside you.............. Are you workin with my law firm????
Jeesh all you did was run, and they givin you all that. I ran through rush hour traffic through crowded neighborhoods and had 9 of them behind me, and they didnt even bother to show... Guess it was my luck.... Ey, doesnt your car have tint??? How could he see through the tint at night if he never pulled beside you.............. Are you workin with my law firm????
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The officers name is Lingenfelter or something. Im pretty sure he is just pissed I left him in the dust like I did and he wants to make an example out of me. He absolutely did not see me at all that night. He's just straight lieing. Thats why Im going to tell the lawyer the rest of the story. My tint is pitch black, theres NO lights where we were, my headlights and tag light were off until I got about a 1/4mile away from him and I was home when he called my house 40 miles away from where it happened. Yes Im using your lawfirm but I waited till the very last minute to contact him so he didnt have any time to prepare.
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The officers name is Lingenfelter or something. Im pretty sure he is just pissed I left him in the dust like I did and he wants to make an example out of me. He absolutely did not see me at all that night. He's just straight lieing. Thats why Im going to tell the lawyer the rest of the story. My tint is pitch black, theres NO lights where we were, my headlights and tag light were off until I got about a 1/4mile away from him and I was home when he called my house 40 miles away from where it happened. Yes Im using your lawfirm but I waited till the very last minute to contact him so he didnt have any time to prepare.
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Blah blah blah, also while massaging and cooling you in the seats. Who cares they are going to make aftermarket suspension. And it wont matter I bet if I drove it and we all ran up 50 I would be first through all of the S-turns stampted!!!!!! Its more about driver than car, out here.. And it hasnt blown up yet, so we shall see until that day. 4dsc it shall remain!!!
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Its Lenny. I'm confident he can handle it though. I just dont want to go to jail or have to pay the $2000 in fines. I think I could handle not having my liscence for a few months. I would just have to rock my completely legal max and drive like a granny during that time.
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Blah blah blah, also while massaging and cooling you in the seats. Who cares they are going to make aftermarket suspension. And it wont matter I bet if I drove it and we all ran up 50 I would be first through all of the S-turns stampted!!!!!! Its more about driver than car, out here.. And it hasnt blown up yet, so we shall see until that day. 4dsc it shall remain!!!
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LOL! I dont see you driving that big ass FORD FIVE HUNDRED anyway. LOL! Oh yeah, The Lincoln MKS placed 2nd place against the Mercedes Benz E550, BMW 550i, Jaguar XF and the Maserati Quattroporte. The BMW won 1st place. They did say that the MKS had the highest top speed on the straights but it handled like doo-doo. The BWW was like MPH down on the straights (107 to 109) but it finished the course 2 seconds faster (170.9 seconds verus the 172.7 seconds in the MKS). Same driver, same conditions (11000 ft elevation!). The turbo DEFINATELY helped the MKS out. Run this SAME test closer to sea level and the MKS wouldve gotten SMOKED in the straights!
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Its Lenny. I'm confident he can handle it though. I just dont want to go to jail or have to pay the $2000 in fines. I think I could handle not having my liscence for a few months. I would just have to rock my completely legal max and drive like a granny during that time.