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"first off, don't need nitrous to break 14's. only reason you even seen a 14 was because me and jaypee was beating down the compition so bad we braked at the end if u payed any attention to the mph. second, wouldn't or didn't need nitrous. technically i won by default, semifinals the guy red lighted. finals jaypee broke his shifter bracket earlier that day and it didnt hold up. and third.. and oh how i love third. how bout u make a trip down here and ill show u what the car will run all out "
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"first off, don't need nitrous to break 14's. only reason you even seen a 14 was because me and jaypee was beating down the compition so bad we braked at the end if u payed any attention to the mph. second, wouldn't or didn't need nitrous. technically i won by default, semifinals the guy red lighted. finals jaypee broke his shifter bracket earlier that day and it didnt hold up. and third.. and oh how i love third. how bout u make a trip down here and ill show u what the car will run all out "
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How about FAIL FOR THE DUDE WITH THE GHEY COLORED 5.5 GEN WHO REDLIGHTED. How he gonna scream on the officials talkin bout "I wasnt ready i wasnt ready. I didnt even get to get my revs up and the light went"
UMMM DWEEB where are you from is this your first track event. That tree dont wait for no one son! Hhaha u loooose u loose! Get the fuck outta here
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How about FAIL FOR THE DUDE WITH THE GHEY COLORED 5.5 GEN WHO REDLIGHTED. How he gonna scream on the officials talkin bout "I wasnt ready i wasnt ready. I didnt even get to get my revs up and the light went"
UMMM DWEEB where are you from is this your first track event. That tree dont wait for no one son! Hhaha u loooose u loose! Get the fuck outta here
UMMM DWEEB where are you from is this your first track event. That tree dont wait for no one son! Hhaha u loooose u loose! Get the fuck outta here
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Hey same thing happened to me on my first time at the track! And everyone remembers that....I didnt make a big deal about it, cause it was my first time ever....but it wont happen again and it hasnt!
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anybody going to capitol on the 12th looks like th classes are tight. look like you gotta be on ur A game to race
TEST AND TUNE
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Open class for any make/model vehicle. No payouts. Competition racers are welcome to run in the Test and Tune lane any time of the day, even after being eliminated from other competition classes.
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SFWD QUICK 8 HEADS UP presented by S.P.E.C. clutches and flywheels
PAYOUTS - $1200 - Must have 8 qualifiers for full payout. Less than eight qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 13.49 and faster.
Winner - $700
R/U - $300
Semi 1 - $100
Semi 2 - $100
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads-Up, Pro-tree (.400) class for FWD, Unibody chassis vehicles with functional doors. Slick or D.O.T. tires allowed. Any 4-cylinder entry allowed. No air-cooled or rotary entries permitted. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted. Wheelie bars and one piece front ends prohibited.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Lexan windows allowed. Lightweight components limited to hood, doors, front fenders, and decklid/hatch. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
Doors must open and close from inside and outside the vehicle. No center drive configurations.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Full tube chassis prohibited. Back-half chassis and tubes are not allowed. No center-drive systems.
ENGINE
Only OEM 4-cylinder motor entries allowed. Engine must be of automotive import origin or offered as OE in compact cars sold in North America. No air-cooled or rotary engines allowed. Motor swaps allowed as long as they stay within the same manufacturer.
POWER ADDERS
Turbochargers, Superchargers and Nitrous Oxide Systems permitted in any combination.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
FWD only. Any transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Any type of exhaust system permitted.
TIRES
Slicks or D.O.T. approved tires allowed.
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STREET CLASS QUICK 8 HEADS UP presented by Forced Performance
PAYOUTS - $1000 - Must have 8 qualifiers for full payout. Less than eight qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 13.49 and faster.
Winner - $600
R/U - $200
Semi 1 - $100
Semi 2 - $100
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads–up Pro-tree (.400) class for Unibody vehicles with functional doors. D.O.T. tires allowed. Slicks are prohibited. Any 4 and 6 cylinder, 2 rotor and 3 rotor entries allowed. No air-cooled entries permitted. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
Doors must open and close from inside and outside the vehicle. No center drive configurations. Front seats must remain inside vehicle.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Full tube chassis prohibited. No center-drive systems. Wheelie bars are prohibited.
ENGINE
4 or 6 cylinder, 2 or 3 rotor engines allowed. Engine must be of automotive import origin. No air-cooled engines allowed. Motor swaps allowed as long as they stay within the same manufacturer.
POWER ADDERS
Turbochargers, Superchargers and Nitrous Oxide Systems permitted in any combination.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
Stock driveline configuration must remain. Any type of transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Open exhaust prohibited. Must run muffler.
TIRES
All street class vehicles must use DOT approved tires. Slicks are prohibited.
FUEL
All street class vehicles must run on gasoline. Pump and racing gasoline are acceptable.
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ALL MOTOR QUICK 4 HEADS UP presented by Hybrid Racing
PAYOUTS - $500 - Must have 4 qualifiers for full payout. Less than four qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 14.49 and faster.
Winner - $350
R/U - $150
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads-Up, Pro-tree (.400) class for naturally aspirated stock import chassis FWD vehicles and/or RWD vehicles from any other manufacturer allowed. No power adders allowed. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted. Wheelie bars, one piece front ends, and any nitrous components prohibited.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Lexan windows allowed. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
There are no restrictions on interior.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Vehicles must have functional doors. All vehicles must retain factory chassis. Vehicles must maintain stock drive configuration.
ENGINE
Import vehicles may run 4,5, & 6 cylinder motors, as well as 2,3, & 4 rotor motors. Only one internal-combustion engine permitted in vehicle. Domestic manufactured vehicles are limited to 4 cylinder engines. Engine manufacture must match chassis manufacture. Brother company substitutions are allowed. Engine must be located and configured in OEM location.
POWER ADDERS
No power adders allowed. Power adders include turbochargers, superchargers, and nitrous oxide systems. Any use of any power adder will lead to immediate disqualification and forfeiture of any winnings.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
Stock driveline configuration must remain. Any transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Any type of exhaust allowed.
TIRES
Slicks allowed for FWD vehicles only. RWD limited to DOT approved tires.
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OUTLAW QUICK 4 presented by Cobb Tuning
PAYOUTS - $500 - Must have 4 qualifiers for full payout. Less than four qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 12.99 and faster.
Winner - $350
R/U - $150
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads–up Pro-tree (.400) class for any RWD, AWD or FWD import or domestic sport compact vehicle. Any 4, 5, 6, 8 cylinder and 2 or 3 Rotor import manufacturer engine allowed. Air-cooled entries allowed. RWD domestics are prohibited. Domestic manufactured vehicles are limited to FWD and 4 cylinder engines. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Slicks or DOT tires allowed. Any type of exhaust allowed. Tube chassis allowed. Engine swaps allowed as long as of automotive import origin or offered as OE in compact cars sold in North America.
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BRACKET CLASSES presented by Altered Atmosphere
14.99 and faster
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
15.00 and slower
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
Motorcycles
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
ET1: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for cars running 14.99 & quicker.
ET2: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for cars 15.00 & slower.
Bracket class is for any RWD, AWD or FWD import or domestic sport compact vehicle. Any 4, 5, 6, 8 cylinder and 2 or 3 Rotor import manufacturer engine allowed. Air-cooled entries allowed. RWD domestics are prohibited. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Slicks or DOT tires allowed. Any type of exhaust allowed.
ET3: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for motorcycles.
Motorcycles must be of import origin. Must have 8 bikes for full payout. Less than 8 will receive half the normal payout
It is the competitor's responsibility to insure both car and driver are in compliance with all Import Face-Off rules and regulations as well as all NHRA safety requirements for the vehicle's performance level.
Must have 4 entries in each bracket class for full payout. Less than 4 will receive half the normal payout.
TEST AND TUNE
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Open class for any make/model vehicle. No payouts. Competition racers are welcome to run in the Test and Tune lane any time of the day, even after being eliminated from other competition classes.
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SFWD QUICK 8 HEADS UP presented by S.P.E.C. clutches and flywheels
PAYOUTS - $1200 - Must have 8 qualifiers for full payout. Less than eight qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 13.49 and faster.
Winner - $700
R/U - $300
Semi 1 - $100
Semi 2 - $100
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads-Up, Pro-tree (.400) class for FWD, Unibody chassis vehicles with functional doors. Slick or D.O.T. tires allowed. Any 4-cylinder entry allowed. No air-cooled or rotary entries permitted. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted. Wheelie bars and one piece front ends prohibited.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Lexan windows allowed. Lightweight components limited to hood, doors, front fenders, and decklid/hatch. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
Doors must open and close from inside and outside the vehicle. No center drive configurations.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Full tube chassis prohibited. Back-half chassis and tubes are not allowed. No center-drive systems.
ENGINE
Only OEM 4-cylinder motor entries allowed. Engine must be of automotive import origin or offered as OE in compact cars sold in North America. No air-cooled or rotary engines allowed. Motor swaps allowed as long as they stay within the same manufacturer.
POWER ADDERS
Turbochargers, Superchargers and Nitrous Oxide Systems permitted in any combination.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
FWD only. Any transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Any type of exhaust system permitted.
TIRES
Slicks or D.O.T. approved tires allowed.
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STREET CLASS QUICK 8 HEADS UP presented by Forced Performance
PAYOUTS - $1000 - Must have 8 qualifiers for full payout. Less than eight qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 13.49 and faster.
Winner - $600
R/U - $200
Semi 1 - $100
Semi 2 - $100
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads–up Pro-tree (.400) class for Unibody vehicles with functional doors. D.O.T. tires allowed. Slicks are prohibited. Any 4 and 6 cylinder, 2 rotor and 3 rotor entries allowed. No air-cooled entries permitted. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
Doors must open and close from inside and outside the vehicle. No center drive configurations. Front seats must remain inside vehicle.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Full tube chassis prohibited. No center-drive systems. Wheelie bars are prohibited.
ENGINE
4 or 6 cylinder, 2 or 3 rotor engines allowed. Engine must be of automotive import origin. No air-cooled engines allowed. Motor swaps allowed as long as they stay within the same manufacturer.
POWER ADDERS
Turbochargers, Superchargers and Nitrous Oxide Systems permitted in any combination.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
Stock driveline configuration must remain. Any type of transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Open exhaust prohibited. Must run muffler.
TIRES
All street class vehicles must use DOT approved tires. Slicks are prohibited.
FUEL
All street class vehicles must run on gasoline. Pump and racing gasoline are acceptable.
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ALL MOTOR QUICK 4 HEADS UP presented by Hybrid Racing
PAYOUTS - $500 - Must have 4 qualifiers for full payout. Less than four qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 14.49 and faster.
Winner - $350
R/U - $150
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads-Up, Pro-tree (.400) class for naturally aspirated stock import chassis FWD vehicles and/or RWD vehicles from any other manufacturer allowed. No power adders allowed. Any transmission allowed. Three qualifying passes permitted. Wheelie bars, one piece front ends, and any nitrous components prohibited.
BODY
Import or domestic compact car bodies allowed. Lexan windows allowed. Examples of bodies NOT permitted: Camaro, Trans Am, Mustang, Corvette, Grand National, etc. Examples of bodies acceptable for competition: Any Import car body, Focus, Cavalier, Sunfire, Neon, and other similar bodies.
INTERIOR
There are no restrictions on interior.
CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION
Vehicles must have functional doors. All vehicles must retain factory chassis. Vehicles must maintain stock drive configuration.
ENGINE
Import vehicles may run 4,5, & 6 cylinder motors, as well as 2,3, & 4 rotor motors. Only one internal-combustion engine permitted in vehicle. Domestic manufactured vehicles are limited to 4 cylinder engines. Engine manufacture must match chassis manufacture. Brother company substitutions are allowed. Engine must be located and configured in OEM location.
POWER ADDERS
No power adders allowed. Power adders include turbochargers, superchargers, and nitrous oxide systems. Any use of any power adder will lead to immediate disqualification and forfeiture of any winnings.
DRIVETRAIN AND TRANSMISSION
Stock driveline configuration must remain. Any transmission allowed.
EXHAUST
Any type of exhaust allowed.
TIRES
Slicks allowed for FWD vehicles only. RWD limited to DOT approved tires.
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OUTLAW QUICK 4 presented by Cobb Tuning
PAYOUTS - $500 - Must have 4 qualifiers for full payout. Less than four qualifiers will receive half the normal payout. Qualifiers must run 12.99 and faster.
Winner - $350
R/U - $150
CLASS DESCRIPTION
Heads–up Pro-tree (.400) class for any RWD, AWD or FWD import or domestic sport compact vehicle. Any 4, 5, 6, 8 cylinder and 2 or 3 Rotor import manufacturer engine allowed. Air-cooled entries allowed. RWD domestics are prohibited. Domestic manufactured vehicles are limited to FWD and 4 cylinder engines. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Slicks or DOT tires allowed. Any type of exhaust allowed. Tube chassis allowed. Engine swaps allowed as long as of automotive import origin or offered as OE in compact cars sold in North America.
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BRACKET CLASSES presented by Altered Atmosphere
14.99 and faster
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
15.00 and slower
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
Motorcycles
Winner - $150
R/U - $50
ET1: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for cars running 14.99 & quicker.
ET2: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for cars 15.00 & slower.
Bracket class is for any RWD, AWD or FWD import or domestic sport compact vehicle. Any 4, 5, 6, 8 cylinder and 2 or 3 Rotor import manufacturer engine allowed. Air-cooled entries allowed. RWD domestics are prohibited. No restriction on power adder type or combination thereof. Any transmission allowed. Slicks or DOT tires allowed. Any type of exhaust allowed.
ET3: ET-Handicapped eliminator (dial-in) using a Sportsman-Tree (.500) for motorcycles.
Motorcycles must be of import origin. Must have 8 bikes for full payout. Less than 8 will receive half the normal payout
It is the competitor's responsibility to insure both car and driver are in compliance with all Import Face-Off rules and regulations as well as all NHRA safety requirements for the vehicle's performance level.
Must have 4 entries in each bracket class for full payout. Less than 4 will receive half the normal payout.
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" I always feel like somebodys watching me" I always fell like somebodys watching me" Now, tell me who watching you"
How much you get from the Geico commercial. Those were your eyes!lol
" I always feel like somebodys watching me" I always fell like somebodys watching me" Now, tell me who watching you"
How much you get from the Geico commercial. Those were your eyes!lol
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yall whats going on w/ people in the world today. I was able to catch the 11pm news yesterday and all I heard was death death death. Betwenn Mcnair another train colliding at disney world killing folks. Jeesh!
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ROFLMAO!!!!! Talk about a good morning cup of coffee!
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900 Boxes of Coffee Laced With Viagra Seized
Malaysian authorities seize Viagra-laced coffee
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The 900 confiscated boxes contained some 9,000 coffee packets.
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Malaysian authorities have confiscated 900 boxes of coffee laced with Viagra, a newspaper report said Sunday.
Health Ministry officials raided a company in Kuala Lumpur that marketed the coffee as an energy booster, The New Straits Times said. The report did not say whether the package labeled Viagra as an ingredient.
Sunday's report said the 900 confiscated boxes containing some 9,000 coffee packets were worth more than 72,000 ringgit ($20,000). Some of the Viagra-laced coffee had been distributed nationwide, it said.
Viagra is legal in Malaysia, but it requires a prescription. The drug helps men get an erection, but it can pose a heart hazard, especially when taken with certain medications.
The report quoted an unnamed Health Ministry official. A ministry spokesman could not immediately confirm the report Sunday.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/we...ra-Seized.html
900 Boxes of Coffee Laced With Viagra Seized
Malaysian authorities seize Viagra-laced coffee
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Malaysian authorities have confiscated 900 boxes of coffee laced with Viagra, a newspaper report said Sunday.
Health Ministry officials raided a company in Kuala Lumpur that marketed the coffee as an energy booster, The New Straits Times said. The report did not say whether the package labeled Viagra as an ingredient.
Sunday's report said the 900 confiscated boxes containing some 9,000 coffee packets were worth more than 72,000 ringgit ($20,000). Some of the Viagra-laced coffee had been distributed nationwide, it said.
Viagra is legal in Malaysia, but it requires a prescription. The drug helps men get an erection, but it can pose a heart hazard, especially when taken with certain medications.
The report quoted an unnamed Health Ministry official. A ministry spokesman could not immediately confirm the report Sunday.
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LMAO! Little man got some moves!!! Power to the short people!!!!!
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got 3 vehciles under the belt already. 2008 Mustang GT 5 Speed, 2008ish (looked new) Infiniti G35S and 2010 Camaro RS V6. Boy were they blown.
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dunno what pretail is LMAO but numbers 1 & 2 were from 10mph rolls and they were beat to 100 by about a 1.5 cars and the 3rd got beat all the way to 120 by about 4 cars closer to 3.5 I was quite surprised
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it means please tell what type of car you are refering to.= what were you driving. Make, Model, year, vin #, trans, color, options. lol or is it a secret
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im not gona reveal the make or model of the car but I will reveal that has a 3.5 and 6speed manual transmission, and appears to be very capable of high 13s very low 14s stock. But it will be out for everyone to see. A few people have already seen it.
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I got this in a IM from my favorite asshole online today
This is for Chris CL... Ran across a couple of guys the other day who were talking about some "guy in gray CL" which they went on to describe and I confirmed was you. In the conversation they refered to your car as a "POS" in which they "blew the doors off" and made you look "silly'... I told them that you would probably would beat their ass if you was spraying nitrous and they said the way they "embarrassed" you that 'there aint a gas in the wolrd that would help him come back and beat them"... It was kind of funny at the same time then it wasnt.. Dont shoot the messenger..lol
This is for Chris CL... Ran across a couple of guys the other day who were talking about some "guy in gray CL" which they went on to describe and I confirmed was you. In the conversation they refered to your car as a "POS" in which they "blew the doors off" and made you look "silly'... I told them that you would probably would beat their ass if you was spraying nitrous and they said the way they "embarrassed" you that 'there aint a gas in the wolrd that would help him come back and beat them"... It was kind of funny at the same time then it wasnt.. Dont shoot the messenger..lol
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well 3.5 and 6sp and low 14's high 13's stock arent applicable to any honda/acura. soooooo that only leaves.hmmmm??????????
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I got this in a IM from my favorite asshole online today
This is for Chris CL... Ran across a couple of guys the other day who were talking about some "guy in gray CL" which they went on to describe and I confirmed was you. In the conversation they refered to your car as a "POS" in which they "blew the doors off" and made you look "silly'... I told them that you would probably would beat their ass if you was spraying nitrous and they said the way they "embarrassed" you that 'there aint a gas in the wolrd that would help him come back and beat them"... It was kind of funny at the same time then it wasnt.. Dont shoot the messenger..lol
This is for Chris CL... Ran across a couple of guys the other day who were talking about some "guy in gray CL" which they went on to describe and I confirmed was you. In the conversation they refered to your car as a "POS" in which they "blew the doors off" and made you look "silly'... I told them that you would probably would beat their ass if you was spraying nitrous and they said the way they "embarrassed" you that 'there aint a gas in the wolrd that would help him come back and beat them"... It was kind of funny at the same time then it wasnt.. Dont shoot the messenger..lol