Year: 2007
Make: Acura
Model: TL
Price: $40000
Mileage: 40770
Color: Nighthawk Black Pearl
Location (State/Prov): FL

1. Price: 40,000
2. Mileage: 40,770
3. Color, Transmission-auto or manual, Navi? Nighthawk Black Pearl, 6MT, NAVI
4. Reason for selling: Doesnt have to sell, this one just received a new engine so I am seeing if someone would like her. and i want a convertible
5. Location: Boca Raton FL
6. Pictures: YES SEE BELOW
7. Are you the first owner? 2nd, I took over at 24k miles (
8. Title information (Answer both questions): I own the car
a. Clean/clear/rebuilt/salvage/other (explain further). Clean
b. Also state if you have title or it is being held by a lienholder. I have the title
9. VIN (would be nice to have but I can understand that some people do not want to publicly post this): 19UAU75577A013166
10. Modifications: YES, this should be called the TL ///M as she was inspired by the BMW M6 in the way I modified her.
11. Service record: Yes, never misses an oil change, all service done by Acura Dealerships
12. If leased, provide details, such as length of lease, payoff amount, etc. NOT LEASED.

STORY: She is the best! Bought her with 24k miles, and transformed her into the TL-S ///M. Has more HP than an E46 M3 and the exhaust rumble and Carbon Fiber look of an M6. Has an extended warranty good through 106,000miles and a BRAND NEW ENGINE! The new engine came as a result of water getting into my intake when i drove through over a foot of standing water that I did not see (ha ha, laugh it up, it was night and it is South Florida which sits below sea level) Anyway insurance covered a replacement engine and they could not find a used one so a BRAND NEW engine was dropped in. I have all the papers, this was all done by Acura Techs at Delray Acura in Delray Beach FL

She has a Brand New: Engine, Tensioner, Timing Belt, Spark Plugs and of course an air filter as a result of this.

40770 original miles and i bought the extended warranty good through 106,000miles. I had leased one before I bought this one and put over 72000 miles on her and the only thing I ever replaced was the battery at around 60k. SO SHE IS COVERED COVERED COVERED

TL TYPE-S' comeFULLY LOADED:http://reviews.cnet.com/sedan/2007-a...-32329452.html

She has over $10,000 in upgrades and not to mention you dont have to pay for the labor!

PERFORMANCE GOODIES:
AEM v2 CAI with Brand New Washable Filter (250)
Underground Racing Underdrive Crank Pulley (215)
ATLP J-Pipe (450)
ATLP Race Pipe with factory heatshield (keeps stock look of 3rd cat) (150)
ATLP Cat Back Quad Exhaust with stainless tips (1200)
(estimated 290-300WHP)
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/product.p...7&cat=0&page=1

EXTERIOR:
Blacked out Grille with chrome Acura badge (250)
Blacked out chrome stripe on trunk (100)
ATLP Color-matched roof spoiler (200)
A-Spec Full Body Kit installed (1200)
Debadged and softsanded the trunk lid, only the "A" and "Type-S" badges remain


INTERIOR:
Carbon Fiber Dash Kit (BEAUTIFUL) (350) *same pattern as Porsche Turbo and BMW M6 CF interiors
Carbon Fiber Shifter (75)
Always Leather Protected (priceless)

AUDIO:
Full 600watt JL Speaker System with 12" Subwoofer (2000)
JL XD600/6 Amp (100x4, 200x1)
2 JL C2 650 component speaker system (front)
2 JL C2 650x coaxial speaker system (Rear Deck)
1 JL C2 350x coaxial speaker (center channel speaker)
1 JL Powerwedge box
1 JL 12" JLW1v2 subwoofer
Monster Cable wiring
Dynamat on trunk top, lid and license plate.

All controls integrated seamlessly to factory headunit (can adjust subwoofer gain the same as factory sub).



WHEELS:
19" x 8.5 Ruff Racing R 930 (1200)

Tires

New at 40,000miles Hankook Ventus V12 255/40ZR19

Misc:
Legal window tint
All factory recalls applied: (powersteering hose)

 

im not tryin to rain on your parade, but theres no way your gettin 40k for a 07 type S.........good luck with the sale though car is very nice

 

It would be interesting to see a dyno test to see if you're actually putting down anything close to 290-300whp.

No suspension?

Good luck.

 

360 hp huh

 

the car wasnt even worth 40k wen it was brand new ... i would like to see a dyno of the 360 hp as well

 

No more comments on the price until zrock87 posts a reply and gives his comments on the price.

 

Hey guys! and thank you for the comments! I understand I may not get 40k for this car, and in that case Ill keep her forever. No one has a price until they have a customer. And opinions are allowed . Now I have not personally dyno'd the car but I have been on Acurazine since 2007 and know the people that have achieved over 300WHP; the only thing I have not done that they have is PCD (pre-cat deletes). I am sure this could only at at most another 10HP. So my estimate is pretty spot on at 290-300. Now the crank adds 11WHP, it weighs less than 1lb, the factory crank weighs 9lbs! And the exhaust tested by ATLP is said to add in the upwards of 30WHP with all the components added on (racepipe, jpipe, and quads) after all I did remove the 3rd cat, resonator, and 3 mufflers that came on the factory system (HUGE RESTRICTION!) Then the CAI added maybe 10-15 HP not sure if that was WHP or Crank HP but again my estimate comes from the manufacturer of the parts that I added and the dynos of similar setups. The 3.5L engine had alot of power in it that the factory didnt unleash because they wanted to sell it as a luxury car. Hence why there is ZERO EXHAUST NOTE on the stock setup, ZERO! Once I added the intake it was even loud as the factory airbox was even restricted with resonators! Again, she is a ready to rock car! If you have have ever dealt with dropping your car off for each new part and going to and from the shop your know how easy this is coming! Labor, time, quesswork, is money saved. So after the new engine went in i figured I would put her on here and see if I could get anything, I dont have to sell her, this post is for the real enthusiast who appreciates what I have done (its like buying art). So if you want the her lets talk, if not, lets not, here are some more pics i dug up:

 

The fact that the engine was replaced lowers the value of the car. It may have 0 miles on it but any potential buyer would rather know the engine was installed by the factory rather than a dealership.

If you assume 50% residual value on your mods you're talking about a car that's worth listing in the mid to high 20K range. And having followed what Type S's have been selling for that's probably still $5-10k higher than what the market has been paying for Type-S's. I tried trading my '08 Type S MT around the 40k point over a year ago and at that point was only getting values in the high teens.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...item2c5a9974db

You could buy a car, put all your mods on brand new and still spend 10k less.

Also keep in mind while an exhaust may add X HP and an intake may add Y - adding both does not necessarily mean that it will equal X + Y.

It's a nice car - but if you're actually looking to sell it you should probably look around and see what these things are selling for.

 

This is key. Breather mods "free up" horsepower, they don't necessarily "add" any. Claims on horsepower gains from exhaust components are probably tested on a stock engine. Gains will almost certainly be different on a modified engine.

OP I think you'll have better luck (and more money) parting out your car, rather than selling it as a whole.

 

[quote=Cyberdemon;12705764]The fact that the engine was replaced lowers the value of the car. It may have 0 miles on it but any potential buyer would rather know the engine was installed by the factory rather than a dealership.

If you assume 50% residual value on your mods you're talking about a car that's worth listing in the mid to high 20K range. And having followed what Type S's have been selling for that's probably still $5-10k higher than what the market has been paying for Type-S's. I tried trading my '08 Type S MT around the 40k point over a year ago and at that point was only getting values in the high teens.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...item2c5a9974db



Nice ebay link bro! You got me now looking!

 

I thought for sure there would be a supercharger involved on this ride ( prior to viewing this thread ). Very Nice car and I would keep it mostly because its hard to gain a return on your spending (modding) and its a very nice car. Plus maneul trannys can be hard to unload as well.

 

Very nice car I have the same car 07 Type-S NHP with out the all the mods yet, but I have installed the J-pipe, and A-Spec suspension I have a Greddy Evo II exhaust to put in and I also have the PCD'S to installed. I bought it last year for 19K. I like the mods you have done like the black chrome were did you get it from. Thats something I was looking at. I also like the shift knob. PM me were you got them from I would appreciate it. The price you are asking for the car is very steep but if you get it more power to you.

 

I rarely post in someones ad unless I know them but just looking out for the sake of others but how did you come up 360 hp?

A type-s is rated at the crank 287, by the time you add the wheels, axles, transmission hub assembly and dyno the car your only doing about 215-220 hp to the wheels. With a free flowing exhaust, CAI and light weight pully your pushing 245-250 max at the wheels.. Let alone that price. Either way best of luck but there's a lot of false information here.

 

i was wondering the same exact thing...how in the world did you come up with 360hp? at first i thought i mis-read 300 as 360...anyway, even if all the hp gains you claim that you achieved through the mods were correct, that still doesn't even add up to 360. in my opinion, if your 10k was spent purely on performance mods, you woulda achieved the 360...maybe. but all you had done was intake, pulley and exhaust mods. there's no way you're even close to 360 at the crank. i'd be surprised if your dyno even came out to be 250 at the wheel. and 40k for a used tl-s...i think a brand spankin' new tl-s with 10k spent on mods wouldn't even come close to 40k. if you're going to post info about the car you're selling, i think you should do all the research before-hand. and also, the dyno results would clear up everything both for yourself as a seller, and potential buyers so they actually know what they're getting and not what you claim the car to be. i'd say before anything, ask the mods to change the title of your thread and take that "360hp" out until you can actually prove with a dyno chart that that's what your car's making. i'm guessing the best offer you might get will be under 30k. but if you do find a person that's willing to pay what's posted, good for you.

 

Is this thread an f'in joke?? Are you really going to state that you're producing 360HP without even posting dynos? Are you serious with that price?? Dude, the car was $38K brand new!! Oh wait, you have RUFF RACING wheels. I guess that justifies the price.

So much win.

 

this thread cracks me up man 360HP huh? your shiet aint even S/C'd OP make sure u get your facts straight before you make a thread like this cause in the end your only gonna get bashed! BTW i got bunch of stickers that means my TL-S got like 1000 HP? also i would love to see u race an M3

 

dood probably been smoking something while making this thread

 

Hey guys, the price is what it is because i just wouldnt take anything less, so i guess you could say im not that interested in selling it, if you have ever modified a car, the time and labor costs mirror those of some of the mods. anyway, no need to justify here. ATLP claimed +17WHP for the Jpipe, +7 WHP for the racepipe and + 10? WHP i believe for the Quads, the CAI claimed +9HP (didnt specify Wheel or crank) and the UR pulley claimed +11 WHP

The TL-S has 287 RATED HP. this means that is not the actual HP of the engine... read more on this here: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/sae-new-horsepower-rating-system-3g-garage-a083-589568/

So with all those advertised WHP and HP gains, and with some other members dynos using the same setup and getting their dyno numbers, 360 sounded great... is it true.. who knows.. if someone wants to lend me their dyno for the weekend we can findout.. thanks for the all the opinions...

 

Just letting you know for the future.. Your theory doesn't work like this

287+ 11 + 17 +7 +10 + 9.. = 360

It's false advertisement on companies making the products and even more of a false statement by you adding the numbers like that without a dyno pull.

 

UHHH 360, ...

 

"so i guess you could say im not that interested in selling it"

-If you're not interested in selling it then just close the thread and move your pictures to the photo gallery instead.

My Corvette had over a $15k fully blueprinted engine build (and the dyno tuning to prove it), $4000 Forgeline racing wheels, and probably another $10k in cooling, braking, and transmission mods...it sold for $15k and I was happy with that. I didn't try asking $45k for a car that was worth $15k but had $30k in mods.

Mods add little to no value. Labor adds zero value. Modification in general decreases the value of the car to the broader target market.

If you don't want to sell the car then have Ron close the thread.

 

this is clearly an early april's fool trick .... way ahead of you buddy ...

 

where can i find the carbon fiber interior kit?

 

lol what a freakin joke. I think its hilarious when people list the retail of the parts they bought. Also, your wheels are cheap and ugly. Most of the stuff you've done hurts the value.. 40k? LAWLS.

 

I agree his price is crazy, but leave the man alone, he has a price and he listed it. If Ron felt his price was over the top, he would have shut it down. If it doesn't sell, no one gets hurt. Obviously, no one would spend $40k on a used car when this car retails brand new for $40k from the dealer.

 

Wow I to had to get in here and look to see what its all about. Obviously your not serious about selling like you said, but personally I would never buy a TL thats been tampered with soo much. Contrary to your belief mods generally lower the value of a car and the fact that your car has had the motor replaced says soooooo much about it. I would say your TL-S is worth $20,000ish at best and thats IF the body is in all original condition with no repaint work. Return it to original condition, lose those wheels and all that carbon fiber stuff on the inside and your value will start to creep up.
Just tryin to help.

James

 

If he wants 40k for a car...let it be. I know the OP stated he doesn't NEED to sell the car. But I agree with others, the chance of finding a buyer at the price point is slim to none.

Also, I would believe you if the motor produced 300hp at the crank with modifications. However, I have yet to see a J35 produce 300whp without forced induction and/or replacing internal components. There are diminishing returns to mod gains, and it's true what cyberdemon said about X + Y gains.

Also for the record, a J series will never sound like a V10 in a M6, no matter what the mods are. and FWD ///M = fail.

If you believe this car is worth 40k for you today. You need to buy additional insurance because a typical policy will not pay 40k for it if it was stolen or totaled.

 

Enough of the comments. If someone out there is interested and wants to talk with zrock87 about the price that's fine, but we don't need any more comments on the price.

People spending this much money can make up their own mind about the price without any help.

 

Ok last thing...Thats fine he can set the price how he wants (even though its beyond ridiculous), but then to come on here and claim HP figures that are total BS and backed by nothing. I see moderators delete other posts which are much more reasonable, but on this one the mods dont care. I dont get it.

Alright carry on. Goodluck with the sale!

James

 

I didn't do anything about the HP claims because enough has been posted here to alert any normal person to investigate and verify the claims, so what more do I need to do?

 

So... Would you trade even for my 2005 Pontiac GTO? It's got 400HP from the factory. It's got this:

2005 Pontiac GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, automatic, 57K miles
-Volant CAI ~$280
-Ported Intake Manifold ~$250
-Kooks LT headers (cat-less midpipes) ~$1,000
-Pedders springs and shocks and urethan bushings ~$2,200
-Magnaflow catback full stainless exhaust ~$1,000
-Tinted Windows (very light tint) ~$200
-06 tail lights ~$200
-5000K HID's ~$300
-Painted-to-match rear bumper IBM ~$400

So that's over $5,500 worth of mods not including install. Power estimates would be 15 + 10 + 40 + 20 = 485 HP.

Also, I'll take just the factory rims and tires if you have them. So you can sell your aftermarket rim and tire combo. Let me know!

 

The OP hasn't updated the thread or been in the forums since 02-28-2011.

This thread is closed for lack of updates or bumps by OP.

You can send a PM if you think there's a chance, and the OP can PM me with a link to this thread if he/she wants this opened.

If you are not eligible to send PM's yet, you will have to wait and see if the thread is opened again.