Timmy18

I'm big on OEM wheels, not so much aftermarket. Taking a look at some 18" Canadian TSX A-spec wheels, 18" European Accord Type-S wheels and 19" TL SH-AWD Advanced wheels. Personally, I like them all with the Tl SH-AWD rim being the least liked. I'm sure they would look absolutely gorgeous on a Amber Brownstone ILX with the right drop and lighting. -Mental image looks so good right now-

SH-AWD

TSX A-Spec

Accord Type-S

TSX A-Spec




Accord Type-S

TSX A-Spec

JMJ3rd

I like the A-Spec! Are they 19's?

Timmy18

Few more SH-AWD's.

Timmy18

Nahh, they're 18's.

Only the SH-AWD's are 19's.

neveronlineilx

You gonna try and swap them? Because retail is damn near as much as Volks if you go thru stealership! :/

Timmy18

Nahh, don't have an ILX... yet... Just putting out some eye candy.

And they weigh alot more, I'm sure too. Maybe a salvage yard or ebay/forum member seller? Nothing beats OEM quality.

JMJ3rd

You photoshop people just kill me! I need to learn that!

chinoxii

damn i love how you chopped my car. I used to be good at photoshop but haven't used it for awhile.

4cruizn

Awesome job on these, Dillon! I really like the look of those TSX A-Specs.

opboarding

The TSX a-spec wheels are so sexy.

Also the euro accord type s (same as v6 tsx wheels) are shown darker than they really are. They are more of a brushed aluminum and look a little better in the chop than I think they do in real life. Just something to think about.

usdmJON

Except aftermarket quality matched with performance. :p

Id say look at the Honda racing wheels. Look up HFP for honda factory performance.

usdmJON

So far a specs look the best. Id also suggest at least an 18in wheel or else id just stick with the 17in oe wheels. They look great as is after all.

neveronlineilx

Not to mention where Works/Factory teams go for Race wheels when they want top notch wheels! most run Volks or OZ wheels or other high end wheels.

A lot of Factory wheels are made by Enkie, BBS, Volks (Rays) etc. Just look at the GTR, 350&370Z, Evo 8/9 & 10, WRX and STI (Im sure Im missing lots of others)

usdmJON

Do it dude. Im self taught; it isnt too hard.
I started with the lasso tool and just outline the wheels with space to play. Then when theyre in place erase the extra picture you left for play around the tires. Hardest part is finding wheels that will match the angle of the car perfectly. If you have yo adjust the perspective the wheel will lose depth. Youll notice these are mainly profile shots for a reason.

Then you start getting into lighting and cloning and I just recently started abusing the burn and dodge tools.

Timmy18

The TSX V6 wheels and the Type-S wheels are not exactly the same. The Accord Type-S wheels have a slightly different finish then the TSX V6's. It makes a big difference to my eyes at least.

Timmy18

He's completely right, and once you start, you cannot stop! lol I spend about 10-15 minutes per picture above.
Here are just my steps. You can really start to fly through these once you get the hand of it!

I use Gimp2.8 so my steps may be a tad different then yours.

1) Get the three pictures (2 of the Car and 1 of the wheels for the said car)
2) Tone the lighting of the car picture (Acura's PR pics need it bad!) and remember what numbers you set/changed it to (Above are Brightness: -15, Contrast: +15). You will need them later!
3) Select the wheels (one at a time) off the other car. Right click, copy.
4) Past wheel onto car wheel, adjust size, sharpen, perspective, sharpen (repeat as necessary) for both wheels.
5) Select the wheels, tires, and shadows around the wheel. Get as close to the tire as possible. Size the Tire and Wheel together to your desired outcome. Repeat for second wheel.
6) Select only the pasted wheels, right click cut. Past back, right click them and add to new layer. (This gives you a bit more control and no 'ant lines' that mess with what your seeing. You don't have to o it though.)
7) Make sure you're on that new layer, right click, colors and Hue saturation you go! Fine tune the contrast, brightness, hue saturation, finesse, sharpen, and adjust as necessary.
8) Merge layers together.
9) Go back to the 2nd picture of the car I told you about, it should be untouched. Select and copy around the wheel well/ arches and past onto your other car image. This is to cover up any of the wheels 'over spilling' onto the fenders from step #5. Aline the pasted fenders onto the car (I usually use a Body line like where the bumper and fender meet to line them up) then tone your new fenders to the same -15 brightness, +15 contrast so they match the rest of the car.
10) Save and upload. (Takes the longest for me )

And yeah, I learned my self.

usdmJON

Nice. I used a gimp at one point but it didnt have the features I was used to using.
Photoshop is up to like cs8 by now. I use cs4. It's my favorite creative suite so far.

opboarding

Oh, I guess they are different. I always thought they were the same. The type s look a lot better being a little darker.

Timmy18

Yeah, I tried cs6(??) once and didn't really like it. It took so long to download, and I've already learned gimp by then so.. But if I started out with cs6, it would be the same deal- not liking Gimp. Same with everyone else who tries out Gimp after PS. I like being the outside, using Gimp vs the majority of people using PS. lol They have their Cons and Pros.

Yeah. The environment has a lot of effect on the wheel finish too. IDK what kind it is, I guess a glossy machine finish with darker insides? I like them.

usdmJON

Whoa. I liked those wheels until this last shot. Totally makes them look like the base/hybrid 2013 ilx wheels.

Timmy18

Essentially that's what they are, just 2" 's bigger. The 13+ Accord LX Base? Same wheel. Just 2" smaller, but with the Euro Accord Type-S finish.

Not the best picture angle, but the best quality. Sorry.


*Note, the ILX Hybrid wheels have a slightly different design on the insides of the spokes then the TSX V6 (Euro Accord Type-S wheels), and the '13+ Accord LX wheels look to be about the same as the Euro Accord Type-S wheels, but just smaller.


And just because the Type-S wheels share a similar design with the Hybrid ILX's shouldn't make you not like them.. I mean, they're 2" 's bigger and have a better finish on them which should make a big enough difference. And with as many ILX Hybrids being sold, or people even knowing about them, I doubt anyone would confuse you for having ILX Hybrid wheels on your non-ILX Hybrid. lol.

JMJ3rd

I'll see what's out and get it in the next day or so. I'm at work tonight.

Timmy18

Just put Euro Accord Type-S wheels on two more ILX's that I got off the Canadian website. I would be making more A-Spec's, but I can't find to many photos of it to use, not even Acura Canada have a decent shot of the A-Spec TSX, just night shots with the car moving. No way I could use those.

I recorded one of them if any of you are interested in watching, I'll upload it to YouTube and post.




I probably should have adjusted the wheels light effect on these, but the lighting effects tool in Gimp can be buggy sometimes when you're trying to get it to focus on a few spots. So I just left them how they are.

usdmJON

To each their own. That quote is exactly why I wouldnt spend money on them.
I for one would confuse them for hybrid base wheels.

I think the aspecs are the best or better yet I think they made the same optional premium alloys for the tsx or tl. Id buy those if their 18s, id look at honda factory performance wheels in 18, and your best bet would be to buy some mugens. You can find mugen m5s for mugen cheap.

Timmy18

Definitely to each their own. Most of the HPD/HFP stuff are 18's and 19's, Mugen and Modulo mostly 17's but a few 18's a believe. Not too sure, I usually don't look at their wheels much.

Timmy18

Few more A-Spec wheel swaps. Finally a quarter view and a Blue ILX!

usdmJON

Modulo? Compared to Mugen? Some people would threaten your family for a comparison like that.

Timmy18

Like I said, I don't even look at the wheels from them but if I'm going to be looking then minus well see what styles everyone has. I don't think I would ever buy them from Modulo though.

Whats the matter with Modulo anyway, some Honda's across the pond have them as dealer accessories, which are like our Genuine accessories right? Are they lower quality knock off's?

neveronlineilx

Modulo is Factory accessory in Japan as well as other countries too I beleive. They are quite expensive as is most JDM stuff specially since the dollar is so weak.

Mugen is in another league but so are there prices, but for fitment, Quality and design with purpose there is no equal (Maybe ASM were the S2000 is concerned but that would be about it)

Timmy18

Uploaded the video for all who are interested.

JMJ3rd

Now that was cool!

Timmy18

Thanks!

JMJ3rd

I noticed that you are using GIMP. I was able to get PS CC a couple of days ago. Now finding the time to learn it. I guess I could spend less time on here.

Timmy18

Well practice does make perfect. Haha. Post some results?

usdmJON

One thing I can suggest is
http://www.good-tutorials.com/tutorials/photoshop
My teacher in graphic design suggested that website for us for the photo manipulation end of graphic design since the class i took was more concept and logo design than manipulation.

Practice does make perfect. To start you off here are a couple steps
1. (MOST IMPORTANT) Find a picture of the car you want with a picture of the wheels you want ON a car. Make sure the cars are at similar angles. This can be tricky; I look at how much of the hood/roof is visible to compare.

(the similar the cars are parked the better the wheels will look. If you have to play with the perspective of the wheel you'll lose the depth and any 3d quality the picture had... sizing you want to be similar. Leave the original car picture alone. Use pictures of a wheel that is LARGER so you dont ruin the pixelation by blowing up a small pic)

2. LASSO TOOL LASSO TOOL LASSO TOOL
Slowly click along the outside of the new wheels until you have marching ants all the way around the wheel. Your skill here will determine how far about your clicks around the wheel are. The closer together the better your outline will be. Once its outlined copy the wheel and past it on its own layer. Do both wheels are you're half way done.

3. Put the new wheel over the old one. Now change the sizing of the new wheels until they fit in the fenders how you want. Erase any extra that makes the wheels look photo shopped and play with the lighting until they look like they were meant to be there.


Hope that works for a QUICK PSCS tutorial. You can also type in to google "Photoshopping wheels on cars" and find video tutorials online.

Good Luck!

usdmJON

I wouldn't include fitment in there. Mugen wheel are pretty standard fitment for their respective models. Only really aggressive if you through rsx/s2k spec mugens on a civic.

You are dead on. Modulos are basically Genuine Honda Accessories.
Mugen however is Honda racing. Created by the son of Honda himself.

Couple examples...

Modulo Civic


Mugen's


The first one wasnt enough so Mugen made an RR.


Modulo s2k


Mugen's s2k

Found this too!



I dont know what Modulo did with the Integra. But I know what Mugen did and I will forever be a fan for that.



Dont mean to thread jack. Just spreading the mugen love.

The TSXs look great.



And dont forget what they did with the Legend and RL...



You know you want this Accord.

Timmy18

Ahhhh! My thread! Why would you!?? LEAVE! Now. (Kidding, but seriously?? lol)

Yeah I've seen many of those before. I knew the Modulo had to be up to some quality since it was being sold on Civic's at dealers (Seen YouTube video's) in other Country's and inside the dealers had walls of the parts on display. And yeah Mugen des some other things Modulo doesn't, like performance parts (Mainly glorified OEM Honda parts, but we've all seen that RL Concept). I don't think Modulo could do anything more then a muffler and CAI/ Short Ram intake. lol still can't touch Mugen.

Personally, I don't like some of the Mugen parts. I'm not crazy about lips, and I don't like things that beg for attention unless it's clean. Lips to me just literately look like the add-on they are. There are some exceptions, but I much prefer a one-piece bumper any day. I'll go for genuine accessories anyway too, as some of them (aside from 4th gen TL's) looks right at home on the car, even if some of them are lips. At least their not Known Mugen parts that would get ripped off by someone who knows what it is and thinks he needs it. And that's why I'm not big on aftermarket wheels. Last thing I want to see is my car sitting on its rotors or sender blocks.

Since this thread has had it's points made and has been washed over, thanks to usdmJON.... I'll post this:

Can you 'make it rain'?
lol



Just don't ever do that thread jacking thing again. Ever.

Timmy18

BTW there are 4 Easter eggs in the above 'raining' pic. List them if you find them.

usdmJON

LOL Sorry man. Can't tell if that really offended you or not. Just trying to establish the difference between the two before users start thinking Mugen just makes accessories and optional parts like Modulo. They are indeed better parts that increase vehicle performance.

And I didnt thread jack you if I didnt change the subject. I was kidding when I apologized for all the pictures in a picture thread. I posted those pictures to show you some mugen wheels and their over all look verse modulo.

I can delete my post if youd like. And yes I can make it rain on photoshop. GIMP is free and photoshop cs3 runs $600. Im sure photoshop can do anything gimp can... except run on a windows 95.

Timmy18

No no no no not offended or upset. This is the internet, dude. All is good. Don't gotta delete anything.

I always look at Mugen as performance oriented parts vs Modulo as watered down appearance parts based on some Mugen stuff.

Making it rain is always cool and fun. I asked because I just wanted to show off and maybe start a comparison to see who has better 'chopping skills? lol