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Old 07-04-2014, 07:38 AM
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ILX or TLX...ugh

Well my car buying world just got a whole lot muddier with the long awaited price release of the TLX.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/03/2...cing-official/
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Test drive them and pick the one you like best. But they are different cars with different prices.
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^^^
Very different cars very different prices.
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hey friend!

I want to introduce this awesome diagram to you to help you decide, it's called a wants vs needs list! maybe you've heard of it!?

it's real easy.
write out your wants vs needs!
it will quickly help you decide!

take care friend!
Old 07-04-2014, 09:58 AM
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And whatever you do...do NOT lend the guy who just called you "friend" your wheels. Do NOT!
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^have you seen the TLX wheels!?
I wouldnt want to borrow them, anyway.
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Old 07-04-2014, 11:37 AM
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Thread already delivers.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^have you seen the TLX wheels!?
I wouldnt want to borrow them, anyway.
Fine.


Correction to my last post: Do not lend this person ANYTHING. Wheels notwithstanding.






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Originally Posted by usdmJON
Thread already delivers.
Well, for the record, I'm not delivering squat to Crabman here unless he promises to give it back.
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Anyhow, between the ILX and TLX, I'd personally take the TLX...because it's got more features packed and is the higher-end car.

Still, depends wholly on budget.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Well, for the record, I'm not delivering squat to Crabman here unless he promises to give it back.
Should I call paypal?
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Originally Posted by justnspace
hey friend!

I want to introduce this awesome diagram to you to help you decide, it's called a wants vs needs list! maybe you've heard of it!?

it's real easy.
write out your wants vs needs!
it will quickly help you decide!

take care friend!
If we all just bought cars that we needed rather than wanted then we would all be driving 15 year old Corollas
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Speak for yourself.
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I neeeeeed a Pagani Zonda. But, I can't have it either.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Anyhow, between the ILX and TLX, I'd personally take the TLX...because it's got more features packed and is the higher-end car.

Still, depends wholly on budget.
That's why I'm considering the TLX as it falls within my budget.

The ILX 2.4 6spd fulfills all my requirements except a V6 which I can live without if the 2.4 has enough power for me and it has just enough tech. Somehow I've managed to never back into anything, change lanes dangerously or run into anything in 40 years of driving. It's just the right size for me and my golden retriever and I can tow it behind my motorhome.

The TLX has the V6 and all the tech I could possible use but it's a bit bigger than I want.

Last weekend I walked through an autopark and checked out all the competitors I could find. I keep coming back to the ILX/TLX with the RDX also in the running.
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I don't understand how one can compare an ilx tlx and rdx.

One is a compact sedan with minimal tech.
One is a full size sedan loaded with tech.
One is a SUV loaded with tech.

If you need the SUV why look at sedans? If you don't need the SUV why waste the money?
If you prefer a small car why look at the tlx? If you like full size sedans why look at the ilx?
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Originally Posted by usdmJON
I don't understand how one can compare an ilx tlx and rdx.

One is a compact sedan with minimal tech.
One is a full size sedan loaded with tech.
One is a SUV loaded with tech.

If you need the SUV why look at sedans? If you don't need the SUV why waste the money?
If you prefer a small car why look at the tlx? If you like full size sedans why look at the ilx?
Sounds like the OP needs to clear up his priorities on what is important in a car, IMO.

But, by his response just now, it appears to be the TLX. But, if that's the case, I'd also recommend considering the A4, Q50, CTS, IS-Series, 3-Series, and C-Class. Does not hurt to see what the competition has to offer.
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Originally Posted by CTNYC
If we all just bought cars that we needed rather than wanted then we would all be driving 15 year old Corollas
oh, so you're the reason why our country sucks.

Live the american dream, they said.

debt will be fun, they said.

i actually chose my TL because it fits my needs for the next 10-15 years.
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oh, so you're the reason why our country sucks.

Live the american dream, they said.

debt will be fun, they said.

i actually chose my TL because it fits my needs for the next 10-15 years.
FWIW, I don't neeeeed my FX...the key is if you can afford it.

Heck, short of food and water, 96% of what buy is a want.
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the point is; I'll steal your wheels.
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raizingkane93....Well, I can see that you have quite the dilemma but I agree with others, it appears that you have such a wide range of vehicles that you listed that it makes it hard for us to help you. If you said, I am debating between a Buick Verano or the ILX, that would be something a little easier for us to help you with.

Here is my take....

ILX: Its a great looking little sedan with material that are nice but not even close to what the TLX will have. They are somewhat not as good as the RDX (I had a 2013 model) but the difference between the of the material between the ILX and the RDX is not as big as that between the ILX and the TLX would be. The automatic ILX is underpowered, especially on paper, but real life driving experience is different and once in that optimal RPM range, it rides quite decently and gives good MPG. The car is noisy on non perfect asphalt but that has to do with the lower profile tires, something that can easily be switched. Regardless, it will be much less quiet than the upcoming TLX that boast one of the quietest cabin. Now the manual with its 2.4L engine is a blast to drive although its exhaust note can be a bit intrusive at times but I get the feeling you are looking at an automatic. I LOVE the size of the ILX....I am a small framed individual and just love how I fit in the TLX and because its a bit lower to the ground, it feels more like a drivers car. As you know, the technology is the ILX is somewhat old now and the MMC next year will address some of its shortcomings. If you don't care/need the tech, you could be quite happy with the ILX. BE WARNED.....The rear shocks will make a noise that will annoy you (if you live in a cold climate).

RDX: Great SUV, amazingly smooth and powerful engine but some have had some complaints about the VCM...it never affected me. The rear suspension problem that plagues the ILX also affects the RDX. The passenger seat is not height adjustable and that really annoyed me in the long run. The interior cargo is quite decent and it is practical but usdmJon stated, if you don't need an SUV, you are paying for something that you will not enjoy. Feature for feature, the RDX and ILX are pretty much the same technology and look and feel quite the same inside....the ILX is smaller and more for drivers while the RDX is bigger, still drives well but more geared for spaciousness.

TLX....No one knows how the TLX drives but we'll know soon. On paper, the TLX seems to be a great vehicle with lots to offer at a decent price (which we now know). The material will be much better than that of the ILX/RDX but its to be expected. The interior room will be more spacious than that of the ILX and almost the same as the TL (if you want to get a feel for it). The folks Acura tells us the 4 cylinder will be a great performer with its DCT but we have no numbers yet. I had a 2006/2009 TSX with the I4 and loved that engine and despite what many people said, I felt it had enough power for what I needed....I love the V6 in my current TL but I find the engine is somewhat muted but the quietness of the cabin and I liked hearing the I4 rev in my TSX's better (and even in the ILX)....Maybe I am 4 cylinder guy after all *lol*. The TLX will have lots of new technology and that can be a good/bad thing. We'll need some time to assess whether the technology of the TLX has been worked out or whether owners will be BETA testers....I think the RLX and MDX owners have been doing alot of that already. My biggest concern is 2 new trannies in this vehicle....the 8 and 9 speed have never been used in an Acura product and that could be an issue....again, unknown.

So in my view....if you want space, get the RDX, if you want a car that is tested and proven (except for the rear shocks)and is still decently equipped, get the ILX but if you want something bigger than the ILX, smaller than the RDX and with better material AND willing to take a gamble on a brand new car, then go TLX.

Hope this helped....and keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Sounds like the OP needs to clear up his priorities on what is important in a car, IMO.

But, by his response just now, it appears to be the TLX. But, if that's the case, I'd also recommend considering the A4, Q50, CTS, IS-Series, 3-Series, and C-Class. Does not hurt to see what the competition has to offer.
Well here's my weird problem. A budget usually ends up being the determining factor in which car you can buy. For me, it has nothing to do with it. I've been squirreling away car payments for years. I'm going to walk into a dealer, get the best deal I can, write a check and leave with my car. So yeah, I'm all over the place ILX, TLX, RDX, the ones you have listed above and many more and all have their pro's and con's. It is a very strange feeling knowing a budget is the least of the my car buying requirement...a feeling I did not anticipate.
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Ironically enough, the better financially you are, the harder it becomes to buy a vehicle (if you are one that analyzes its purchase). I am in the same situation, financially, me and the spouse are in a category many would envy so I can pretty buy what I want HOWEVER, this also makes the process more convoluted because I analyze everything. See, if you couldn't afford the RDX or the TLX, it would be a moot point....but you can, so you want to do the BEST choice. As you stated, no car is perfect so as another member suggested, do a list of pros and cons and then buy the vehicle that meets MOST of your pros.

When we bought the RDX, we thought it was the vehicle for us....we liked it but it wasn't really what needed and why we got rid of it.

Take your time, make your list, go on many test drives and then make a decision....ALL three have strength (well, we don't know about the TLX yet) so I think you can't really go wrong.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the point is; I'll steal your wheels.
The twooth.
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Ironically enough, the better financially you are, the harder it becomes to buy a vehicle (if you are one that analyzes its purchase). I am in the same situation, financially, me and the spouse are in a category many would envy so I can pretty buy what I want HOWEVER, this also makes the process more convoluted because I analyze everything. See, if you couldn't afford the RDX or the TLX, it would be a moot point....but you can, so you want to do the BEST choice. As you stated, no car is perfect so as another member suggested, do a list of pros and cons and then buy the vehicle that meets MOST of your pros.

When we bought the RDX, we thought it was the vehicle for us....we liked it but it wasn't really what needed and why we got rid of it.

Take your time, make your list, go on many test drives and then make a decision....ALL three have strength (well, we don't know about the TLX yet) so I think you can't really go wrong.
Yup, that's exactly my problem. A budget keeps one in check.
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Originally Posted by razingkane93
The TLX has the V6 and all the tech I could possible use but it's a bit bigger than I want.
So it seems you'd like a compact luxury sedan with good tech and you also mentioned budget is low on the criteria list.

Have you looked at the Lexus IS and Audi A3?
These two offer better tech, power, luxury and refinement than the ILX can while keeping things compact sized.
Pricing would be in the mid $30K.
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If money wasn't an issue I'd buy an S4. Get out of here with you no money problems.
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I'm already getting calls from my dealer to get on the "early reservation list" for the TLX. I have to admit I'm a bit intrigued by the car, and a sticker price of just over $32K for a 2.4L model with Tech package is tempting (though it would also seem to put yet another stake in the heart of any chances for a second-gen ILX.)
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From what I am seeing the base 2.4 is cheaper than the 5sp tech.
Though the 2.4 is without tech. The 2.4 tech is 4 grand more which makes me feel a little better.

The best non hybrid still looks to be a 44 thousand dollar car which is a good contrast the the ilx dynamic at like 29-30. So it is still an expensive enough car that I couldnt afford it now. But near future there is a good possibility. I love my ILX though. Maybe two cars...
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Originally Posted by usdmJON
From what I am seeing the base 2.4 is cheaper than the 5sp tech.
Though the 2.4 is without tech. The 2.4 tech is 4 grand more which makes me feel a little better.

The best non hybrid still looks to be a 44 thousand dollar car which is a good contrast the the ilx dynamic at like 29-30. So it is still an expensive enough car that I couldnt afford it now. But near future there is a good possibility. I love my ILX though. Maybe two cars...

Whoops, right you are. The site I was looking at quoted $32,025 for a 2.4L Tech TLX, but the source they linked to correctly noted the pricetag is $35,025:


http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/03/2...cing-official/
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35 for the lowest tech version right?
Someone on this site quoted 30,xxx as the base.
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Go with the TLX! Especially if you have kids (or might have kids soon). The TLX comes with rear AC vents and more room. I have one child (3 years old) and I feel that the ILX is way too small. My son bumps his head on the ceiling when coming in and out of his carseat. In fairness, the carseat is rather big... a Britax Marathon 70... but I don't think it's safe for his head to be so close to the ceiling. I'm very unhappy. Unfortunately I'm only 10 months in on a 36 month lease for the 2014 ILX. I might look into how I can sell this car if time permits.
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Smaller car seat maybe?
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I have the ILX hybrid and I've posted several times how I am counting down the days to getting out of my lease and into something different. The TLX is definitely intriguing and I've been watching all of the TLX videos on Acura's youtube channel. Dual screens may take some time to get used to, but for me the interface will need to be hugely overhauled to win me back to the brand. I've owned a 05 TSX, 07 RDX, and now 2013 RDX and ILX. The ILX seemed good on paper initially, but I have true regrets of the car except for the fuel efficiency of the hybrid.
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