Hey guys I'm looking to get wheels for my 2015 ilx
Mainly wanting opinions and experiences
I wanna go with a 19 x 8.5 20 offset all around
Would I have to roll and pull or just roll?

If I were to not want to roll at all what size would you recommend ?

Just additional info ... I'm going to purchase coilovers.. Not sure on brand but probably will go with Megan racing or D2.

Thanks in advance for any inputs =)

 

Actually that should fit as is. The only thing that might throw that off is the offset. 19x8.5 and maybe even 19xx9 is the biggest we can fit easily without making rubbing more room by pulling and rolling. However, stock offset is +40. Since the new wheel you are talking about is wider, the offset change may not be a bad thing.

Honestly, just test fit it. If they don't fit, then you can still get that size, just choose a different offset.

Also you will need a low profile tire, and that means a little rougher ride. But that is also downplayed a little by wider wheels/tires. I dont think its that noticeable to most people tho. Might be if you always have a lot of stuff or people in the car.

Since car will sit lower when weighed down with people or stuff - it may still rub anyway when fully loaded. If you really want to avoid that, go one size smaller - 18x8.5. You can easily find wheels that are lighter then stock (stocks are 30lbs each I believe), which will help MPG and acceleration. Since its wider, it will also handle and ride a little better.

I'm in a similar predicament when it comes getting wheels. What wheels are you looking at? Try contacting the actual manufacturer and asking them if it would fit your specific vehicle.

I'm looking at a few different wheel companies - both new and refurbished. Like I'm looking at some VIP Modulars - they make a couple different cast wheels now, and those are within my price range. I'm messaging them right now for specs. I was half-assed promised a wheel sponsorship, but i think they wanted me to get crazy big huge wheels, not my preference, even if it is at a discount.

 

* partial wheel sponsorship by another company, not VIP Modular.

 

I would think it heavily depends on how low you go with the coilovers.

I'm on H&R lowering springs with 18*8 wheels, 225/40 Tires and 25mm spacers in the rear and I rub every day albeit not that bad. If you got 8.5 wide on a 225/40 tire with a 20 offset you will stick out a little more than I do and if you car was equally low you will rub a bit more than I do (it only rubs on the far outside so if you stick out wider it likely will rub more surface area. Mine literally rubs a centimeter of tire). So again, depends on how low you want to go

 

Thing is, 25mm is almost 1 inch. So its like you made your wheels 1 inch wider, and all towards the fender. So really its like you have 9inch wide or even 9.5 wide if you have high offset. And you have 225 tires - good choice for road handling and ride comfort, but 215 would be better to fit, sizewise.

That's why i say test fit the wheels. "technically" it will fit. But then offset will change where the wheels actually sit. Too low or too positive offset and it will either hit shock struts or rub fenders. And tire size affects too. Let us know what happens tho - give back some info to the community, its valuable info.

 

I was assuming he uses the wheels with that 20 offset

His 20 offset and 8.5" wheel will stick out wider than my 8" wheel with 45 offset with 25mm spacer (I think exactly 6mm right?). Now tire size definitely plays a role but a 215 tire on a 8.5" wheel looks a bit funny, lip of wheel pokes out more than tire. Personal preference completely but I can't stand that look, just don't get it.

 

Yea im not pro on the fitment, just a general idea thing. You're probably right then. I wanted 19's, but its true, I'll have to get a smaller tire, and Im not sure thats the best choice. I want a good look, but i really like function and form together.

And yea 225 on a 18 fills the wheel well better.

 

I would go with a higher offset to make sure they fit. We know 9.5 20offset needs a roll so 8.5 20 might as well depending on drop height and wheel size.

I would suggest 19x8.5 with 35 offset. This will be easier to fit with less fender work and not as small tires.

 

Would you guys know if 18" 9.5 +22 in re30's would fit well? I'm under the impression that fenders would need work. Tires will most likely be 215, possibly 225 if they can work. Not sure about suspension yet, I emailed BC Racing and they stated they're working on the Type BR coils for the 2013-2015 models.

 

Man those are going to be wide. You can go to my build thread, page 6 post #233 and look at the rear. Mine is basically 100% flush with the outside of fender (the look I was going for) and your rears will stick out an additional 17mm if I did the math correctly (that's factoring in my 25mm spacers). +22 Offset is the reason why. Also man you know how much wheel is going to be exposed with 215mm wide tires right? a 9.5" wheel is 241.3mm wide.....I would think any responsible wheel/tire shop will tell you 215 isn't wide enough for those wheels. Like I said before the big factor is how low you want to go. If you go as low as myself or Jon you will rub more than I do with a 225/40/18x*9.5 +22 wheels. Not as bad if you go with 215mm tires but seriously think about that one before you pull the trigger. Here's a pic of a 9.5" wheel with a 215mm tire

 

Good lord I do not want that kind of wheel stretch. Tyvm for the informative post! What I'm picturing is a flush fitment with the fenders like your wheels. However, the only size in the RE30 I think suits the task with a concave (l2) face design is the 18" 9.5 +22. It's starting to look more like a 245 tire instead.

I don't want to go super low where I'm scrapping every bump, tires rubbing as I'm tired of that with my current S2000. I'm looking to get into something more practical for day to day tasks, hence why the change to an ILX.

Edit - After posting, I went to Aaron (slammed's) build log and saw his wheel specs are 18 9.5+22 and he ran with a 215/40/18 tire. He is dropped waaay lower than I will ever run again and his pictures don't show tire stretch anywhere as bad as yours did. Not sure how to proceed with these mixed results.

I definitely know I want to use the ILX as a daily drive, I'm not looking for any performance mods (but everyone says that at the beginning) and just want to keep it reliable with some slight cosmetics (wheels and suspension).

 

I am getting kind of tires of these questions being asked over and over. They dont take advice from the people giving it just ask more questions based on people that NEVER post.

Frankly I cant share much of what Aaron is doing as he is now calling me a snitch since I shared the wheel specs of a set of wheels he as posted publicly more than once. Oy vay.

Le, as OSU is trying to say, 9.5 is very wide for a honda/acura.

OSU looks very flush on 18x8 wheels with 45 offset.

^Orange is OSU Green is Aaron.
You can see OSU has little to no stretch and Aaron not only has narrower tires but wider wheels also, making for much more stretch.

You can also see how much further aaron's set up sticks out. Which is about 17mm of more poke than OSU. Aaron fits that under his fenders by running more negative camber than OSU has. Both wheels look the same where the tire gets close to the fender but aarons wheels are wider and will stick out more from the car near the ground.

One is for looks the other is for performance. Im not sure if OSU did any fender work, I believe not where as I believe Aaron did.

Le, ditch the stupid concave idea. Im so tired of concave this concave that. RE30s are gorgeous wheels and will remain gorgeous with or without the concave. I see people who want that concave look ditching the idea of legit wheels for some lame XXR concave BS.

The RE30s in 18x8.5 +40 with 225 tires would be a great daily set up. Not concave. But if concave is all that matters I have nothing left to say.

 

Hey Jon, great post, very informative! Sorry if my post hit a nerve, but I didn't mean any harm. I am simply not knowing in the wheel setup for an ILX hence the questions. Any criticism or comments help greatly and I'm very appreciative of your post. I'm not sure how you got that picture, but it is very insightful and helps visualize the wheel setups.

Ps Jon, I went through your build log and you make the gunmetal color look amazing. Very nice photo skills too btw, your shots all look great! My s2k is silverstone so it's a similar shade, however, your ilx puts it to shame :P

Edit - Osu, do you run spacers with your wheels? Or is that negated with the low offset?

 

Yo Le - I agree with Jon, 18x8.5+40 with some nice 225 tires would be ideal. That's plenty wide, more than 99% of the Ilxs/Civics out there. The tires in the pic I sent probably weren't stretched all the way yet like Aarons. But either way 8.5 with a 225 is a great set-up.

I run 19mm (maybe 21 I forget) spacers in front and 25mm spacers in back because my offset is so high. If Aaron didn't have the negative camber he'd rub all day every day i'm sure.....hope this helps

 

I apologize for sounding hostile. It was no needed.
I've heard a few people try to mimic the specs aaron has only to run into issues. Since aaron is never here to hand out info, and actively tries to hide his own, makes it very frustrating since he can't say what he did for sure.
All we can do is try to help people reach those specs when the only one who tried them won't speak up.

My wheels are only 8in wide. I am now as low as I want and can now see how much wider I'd like. I suggest people take it slow rather than jump like aaron did. Sure he landed on his feet but he doesn't seem too enthusiasts about helping anyone else land safely as well.

 

As for that picture I posted it is from will they fit. Com
You can enter in two wheel/tire sizes and they'll make that diagram for you.

 

Ok guys, back for round 2! What is the consensus for running 18x9+35 wheels on 225/40/18 tires?

If I compare to the spec suggested above, 18*8.5 +40 with 225/40/18 tires, here is what I get:

 

That should work just fine

 

Hey Osu, will I require spacers if I want a flush wheel fitment for the specs I want to run?
18x9+35 wheels on 225/40/18 tires

 

well the problem is the appropriate spacers would be too small to work with. For a super flush look with 9" wide wheels I think the best offset would be 28-31 but good luck finding that exact fitment. You will be about 5-7mm from being super flush with the 35 offset....But still pretty damn close

 

you could run a 3mm or a 5mm spacer. But test fit all this stuff man. I can't stress this enough.

Yesterday I was hauling these huge walk/pathway bricks in my trunk - each one probably weighs -30lbs(?) had about 12 in the trunk. Was looking super low. My tires were tucking, and no rubbing at all. Looked pretty flush. I want to go bags or coils in the future, but I like that rubbing was not an issue at all, even when under load. Because its a car - you're gonna do more then just drive it around for looks. 19x8.5 is the biggest I'd go now. 19x9 and 18x9 I've talked to people with ILX's and SI's and they rub under load, while maybe not with just the driver in the car. Also depends on wheel face design. And then you get into the offset game, so.... If you really want to avoid issues - just play it safe.

 

Here is my issue with fitment.
Osu, are you rocking cyber kits to zero out the camber?
If Osu is using a camber kit to make his camber zero then his set up will look more flush.

You could go with a set up an inch wider than Osu and run more negative camber than him to get the top of your wheel to meet the fender the same way.

Make sense? You could have the same exact set up as osu but more negative camber and he will look more flush... Follow?

 

Some negative camber would prevent rubbing.
Or slight fender work
or smaller tires
or stiffer Springs.

It's hard for people to test fit things when they require being purchased first. You frankly can't test most parts for your car. I know I can't.

 

Yeah you're right. But wheels by themselves, yes. Most reputable shops are gonna let you test fit. That's what I'm trying to advise the OP. Just test fit wheels first.
But actually... Most any shop would tell you to do suspension FIRST before you purchase wheels. I think OP should get low first, and then purchase wheels.

 

I just dont see testing wheels as a viable option as no shop is going to have a wheel I would ever be interested in. Americas Tires may let you test their selection... of heavy replica wheels. Shops arent going to have a selection of Works, Rays, Enkeis, or even XXR Varrstoen or Vossen.

If you drove out to VRwheels warehouse they would surely let you test fit some GROGEOUS wheel selections but not many people live around large wheel refinishing companies that hold quality wheels in stock. I myself would have to drive over an hour to have this luxury.

 

Good point... but let's be honest, most people aren't gonna have your good taste in wheels...

Although this is kinda dirtbag... I would recommend doing this at the least - test fit rep wheels (if thats your only option) that are the approximate specs you actually want to buy. Yes, you are basically bullshitting/ wasting the shop's time (kinda dirtbag) but it shouldn't take too long either, just go during a slow time for their business. Then just be like... "you know what... I'm thinking I don't like these as much as I thought... I need to think about it" Kinda douchey, but, still. If you feel real bad, leave the dude a tip.

 

Fuck it why not. If they are a tire shop just return with the new wheels and use their service to mount and balance tires. They still get your money then.

 

That wheel spec you will be flush with the fender. I'm running 18x8 +44 with 25mm spacers making it flush with the fender. 18x9 +35 will be 3.3mm less without spacers which is hardly noticeable. I would run a 235/40 or a 245/40 tire, but that's just me because I like the square tire look.

 

I'm probably going to go with 17*8.5+32 once I save up a bit for wheels + tires. Should be totaling ~$3k CAD for the setup so I'll be running stock for a bit :p

Will the stock 215's look "hella stretched" on 8.5? Maybe I can get away with running the stocks slightly stretched on 8.5 until they're worn out and get proper 225/45/17's.