Trentimus

"Is out"? It's $50 more?? Stage 2 is 3.15 right?

Trentimus

Well.. I am gonna place my order it next week... For sure the money wire is almost complete

spdandpwr

Yea order the stage 2 kit when you place the order...makes no sense not to. It's 3.15". For everyone else who doesn't need that power, 3.6 will suffice...I wouldn't recommend 3.8, it'll be like 4lbs of boost

Trentimus

I am thinking I am going to order the Stage 2, the RV6 downpipe, MercRacing aftercooler kit and Flashpro before I install anything.. do all that at once.. I want a reliable machine.

I am almost thinking of getting that for the injectors and the 3.6" pulley until I get a LSD in.. the idea of a FWD 300whp car without a LSD is sad.. haha.. Any idea on how much the 3.6" pulley costs?

Wouldn't the 3.15 make so much power the axles become liable to break, the clutch will probably fail, ect ect..?

spdandpwr

So I'm trying to confirm, but I think the 3.8 pulley may be the 260hp version, 3.15 is 338, and 3.6 is somewhere between that (probably 290).

spdandpwr

I would stick with the 3.6 pulley and ask for the 750cc injectors. Don't need more than 300whp on the car and the extra boost / heat will likely be detrimental, especially in warm summer months.

Trentimus

Yeah.. I am not in for breaking stuff.. 3.6" is probably good but I'd like the 3.15" pulley and injectors for it now so if later I have everything in place to keep IATs down, clutch, LSD ect.. But, 330 whp sounds like broken things are bound to happen and this is my DD. 260/270 is probably best.

spdandpwr

all I have to say is

Trentimus

Lol that steering wheel action is right, I know that much

spdandpwr

correction. 3.6" pulley yielded 260 hp...strange how 70 hp was netted from the smaller pulley and injectors.

Trentimus

On the Cobra my factory one was 3.65" and a 2.9" pulley would give about 50whp/80wtq increase... Doesn't add up to me, but I am not sure.

spdandpwr

yea, I did some research and the tuner confirmed that the increase is legit. They leveraged 1000cc injectors for the stage 2 3.15" pulley. Since this inlet is more efficient than kits of yore, they can work with adding more fuel.

Trentimus

That's bonkers.. I can only imagine how bad it hops though... and the fact we don't even have LSD .. everything over 250WHP gets rough.

spdandpwr

yea, I'm gonna do stage 1 and get motor mounts. I don't care about rattles

Trentimus

link motor mounts, why rattle, and what is typical for install charge

musty hustla

I'll live through you guys!

spdandpwr

you'll feel significant vibration at first, but then that will subside:

http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/...idproduct=9610

Maybe heel toe can carry them and provide a package price?

Trentimus

Perhaps install WITH LSD!

spdandpwr

Install can be done in your back yard...super easy from what I hear

Trentimus

Good to know actually.. I'd like to reduce hop and I heard upgrading the front suspension helps a great deal as well.

Trentimus

Couldn't pass the deal up.. ordered the Stage 2 injectors (750cc) with the 3.6" pulley instead of the 3.15".

Thanks, HeelToe for the amazing price and excellent service.

Thanks, Speed for the points and info.

I decided to just do the S/C for now.. after I get my cash savings back up I will start buying all the little things for my car. Depending on how bad traction is I may focus on LSD, suspension, and new wheels+tires.

spdandpwr

Congrats, dude! I'm so jealous. I might try to get flashpro / intake within the month.

Trentimus

Lol all I can think in anticipation of how much stability my car lacks at speed.. and now it's gonna be that much faster. Need sway bars and coilovers.. and fatter/better tires. I REALLY hate these Michelins.

spdandpwr

yea, I did some spirited driving and this car does not handle triple digits speeds with confidence

Trentimus

Yeah.. I am gonna be easy on it for a while anyways just to give the S/C and tuning process a break but I don't see myself going too hard without proper stability mods.. even looking at big brake kits.

I think most will be corrected in proper shocks.. these things are just trash lol

spdandpwr

HFP suspension and sway bars will give me what I'm looking for. A lot of the problem with the car has to do with how the steering loads and unloads unpredictably.

Trentimus

Yeah.. my guess is that steering load/unload is a result of the variance between those two stages of the shocks.. We have TINY sway bars too..

Trentimus

The beta tester is going to be fitted with an aftercooler setup... Definitely ready to see the results as that's one of my primary desires for lowering IATs and increasing reliability.

spdandpwr

yep! I can't wait to see what happens

Trentimus

What do you think of losing *about* 1lb of boost from the aftercooler?

spdandpwr

I'd rather be safe, than sorry. Also cooler air is denser. And more air, less boost is better than more boost, less air. At least in terms of preserving engine longevity.

spdandpwr

11 seconds with a ct supercharger on a 4 door si

Trentimus

I'll be happy to have a low 13 second street car! But that is dope!

spdandpwr

Stage 2 will put you faster than 13s. FYI, people have issues with running cats on these hi-boost s/c applications. It has to do with the aftermarket cats not being able to withstand the high ect's associated with superchargers. I wouldn't get a dp with a cat if you plan on upgrading the dowpipe.

Trentimus

I am goin stage one DOE!

Is the same true if I am only running the 3.6" pulley?? I am not looking to have a situation like my Cobra where I got hassled by State Troopers and had to goto the ghetto and pay an extra $40 to get an inspection sticker...

** I just read that metallic core converters are supposed to handle rich A/F mixtures better if like say boosted.

spdandpwr

Well the only people who had the problem were the ones who would excessively beat on their cars and ran stage 2, which has higher intake temps from the extra boost.

Trentimus

Gotcha! Ya, I am hoping to avoid things like that and it's hard to decypher sometimes cause the Honda kids are usually pretty hard on their cars. Which is good to the extent that they test the limits before I have to..

I think about it for long term and it will be long before I goto the 3.15" pulley.. I think I converted to wanting a RV6 catted DP and probably the Borla exhaust. I am just waiting on Vit to get back to me on it.. I am ordering my FP from him tomorrow.. He will dictate wether I go 2.5 or 3". I'll get back with you on what his recommendation is.

spdandpwr

What's the determinant for 2.5" vs 3"

Trentimus

He said "DEFINITELY get an intake. DEFINITELY get a downpipe. 3" exhaust is eh.. 2.5 will still make the power on this motor"

Looks like I'll be waiting a bit 'til I actually put the SC on.. I was thinking about holding out for Skunk2 to release their intake for the 9th to see how it comes out.. I asked him if he though the K&N SRI was a good idea... waiting on the reply.

spdandpwr

He's going to call it a hot air intake. Willing to put money on it. I'm telling you 2.5" all the way out isn't a bad way to go given the extra sound suppression.