rxj27

Wow stupid of me Verano turbo is FWD...ATS AWD turbo standard starts at $37,000 with leatherette. Jumps to way over 40K with any features...

spdandpwr

That's a niche Acura should try to go after!!!

rxj27

Aside from enthusiasts, you guys really think the premium small sedan AWD market is that big? I feel the small car AWD market is pretty much cornered by Subaru...

spdandpwr

Subaru is not premium in my mind. I think of them as more along the lines of Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, VW, etc.

00TL-P3.2

I don't think there is as much demand for compact premium AWD sedans.
More for the mid-sized. A4, E-Class, 5-Series, etc.

Sub-premium, I give it to Subaru.

rxj27

Found some more pics for the new Civic looks eerily similar to the ILX from this perspective...




Looks like they even used the same rims as in the concept ILX!

spdandpwr

I still think the ILX looks better, but I think this is a huge step forward as compared to the current civic.

MC MiYoung3269

So that's the refresh they're doing due to the ugly ass one they released? lol I heard something about it but didnt really look into it

sfguy

The Verano just got a really bad rap from Consumer Reports.

spdandpwr

what did they say?

spdandpwr

yea, the civic got some harsh feedback, so they started working on a refresh

rxj27

Didn't CR pan both ILX and Verano?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/m...rano/index.htm

"These compact upscale sedans don’t measure up to their price tags"

rxj27

Off topic but the Tesla S electric just won Motor Trend COY...thoughts?

spdandpwr

I don't know much on the Tesla S, so I can't really speak for it. However, regarding the ILX, I'm happy to see how many owners have the 6mt on these forums.

spdandpwr

So what's everyone's plan for the holidays? Anyone looking forward to any black friday sales?

Switt23

I'm hoping to snag some winter tires hopefully before it's all over. I keep checking Newegg.com as I am a premium business member with them so I tend to spend a lot of money already haha.

spdandpwr

Did anyone snag anything during the holiday sale?

Trentimus

Lots of clothes! And good movie deals, small gifts. My nephew (8) loves small knives he has a little collection started so I got a good deal on a Swiss Army Knife with his name engraved on it. Was normally like 55 got it for 30. Did you?


Car wise if I could of been selfish Full-Race was doing 20% off all their products.. their 3" exhaust woulda been $480

spdandpwr

You should try test fitting the injen axle back, it sounds great and its uber cheap. Regarding purchases, I held off as I'm waiting for my Paypal account to be credited from ebay sales. There was a K&N Intake I was looking at, though I might wait for CT-E to release theirs. And, speaking of clothes, I could use some...lol

Trentimus

I like the Injen exhaust but I am foreseeing myself as one of the few to buy the CT-E supercharger.. and I plan to buy it on release. SO, I am thinking the breathability of the full-race's 3" will benefit more and the full race just sounds sooooo goooood.

To add to this either way I am not looking forward to the dolphin tip..

spdandpwr

I've already started saving for the s/c, just so you are aware of budgeting, the s/c should be accompanied with proper tuning via hondata flashpro. I agree with you on the full-race, but I think it's too loud. And now you have me thinking if I wanna dolphin tip or not.

Trentimus

Werd. I figure it should be the same price as the '09 TSX as I couldn't see what is different.. maybe a bit more for the new intake design. Then you gotta figure in dyno-tunes! Those get expensive really quick..

spdandpwr

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but it seems that the initial depcreciation on an ilx is pretty high. I just saw an ilx 2.4 premium with 2.5k miles on sale for 26,500

rxj27

Wow...I also looked it up. Found a CPO hybrid tech for $28,xxx on autotrader (124 miles only!).

Trentimus

I think most Acura's depreciate anywhere from 35-50% in the first year.. *shrug* that's how my TSX was

spdandpwr

You really think so? My 2012 TSX only had 4.5k negative equity 4 months after I bought it and that's including a 1k negative equity that was rolled into the price of the car.

Trentimus

I maybe way overshot.. lol! Sorry!

http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/ho...fographic.html

Trentimus

Sorry for the double post.. I'd add considering Edmunds "average" of 11% right off the lot in combination with it being year-end time and they're looking to get rid of used cars like hot cakes would answer why that initial bite is so high.

rxj27

New RLX looks much like a big version of the ILX...thoughts?

spdandpwr

The rendering doesn't seem to accentuate the beauty of the cars lines the way the concept did:



I prefer the concept over the rendering and I definitely do see the similarities. Looks like Acura is following Audi in establishing a common front fascia among models.

spdandpwr

In other news, I may be jumping ship:

rxj27

To what? Pic didn't post!

spdandpwr

this:

rxj27

I told you you wouldn't be holding on to the ILX! Looks great! May I ask why?

spdandpwr

It's got sharp looks, its sportier in terms of suspension tuning and limited slip differential, seats are bolstered for tossing the car into the corners, and comes with all of the same tech (albeit without HIDs) as the ILX.

3g_TL

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DONT MIND THE FRONT END BUT HATE THE REAR END ITS TO CAMRY/ACCORDISH

spdandpwr

so I read up on the RLX and I'm still unsure if this car will compete given the fact that it's still fwd and is still powered by a v6. Even with direct injection, the mill only produces 310 hp, which on a car that (I'm guessing) will weigh close to 4klbs. Also, I'm not sure what they hope to achieve with the all wheel steering system, perhaps it's a means to counteract the poor turning radius associated with FWD cars. Either way, I look forward to reviews in the spring.

Trentimus

Eh, I was feeling the 2013 Civic in regular trim.. Si looks gross to me. For the trade off I'll just improve those missing characteristics.. the seats I am fine with personally.

Trentimus

Trentimus

Interior does look substantially better, but that ILX interior is really what drew me in.