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Did you get it home and have it hooked up? If you really feel it needs calibrated do as Moog said or use presets from AVSforum. IMO they are nice out of box.
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Moog I'll check out the disc, thanks
anything i should know about this tv? also, if the price drops drastically within the 30 day period will they refund me the difference?
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I'm a bit shocked actually. Did you price match it to Circuit city? Yes within either 30 or it might even be 60 days on TV's you will get refunded not only to their price but also to any other price match locally..
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totally useless news bit..... oh well
couldnt find any calibration recommendations on AVSforum
and every time i change any color or contrast etc it wont save the changes
couldnt find any calibration recommendations on AVSforum
and every time i change any color or contrast etc it wont save the changes
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Out of the box...what kind of a feed are you watching? Saying it seems grainy means nothing, it could be a million different things that have nothing to do with the TV itself.
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-first it was a regular Yellow Video cable from DVD/Theater system, that looked a bit grainy but i replaced it with an HDMI which looks better
-Second was on a blue ray through HDMI when i paused, when i un-paused it seemed to go away.
I just want to get the best i can out of this beast
FTMFW!
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tv is good... i hope the prices drop in the next 30 days so i can get soem $$$ back....
only ended up paying $251 out of pocket to upgrade
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Question: Do all LCD's have the "soap opera" effect?
also: i'm noticing the lower quality the feed (i.e. S-Video yellow cable) has a lot of stutter which is ugly, is that a LCD wide thing?
also: i'm noticing the lower quality the feed (i.e. S-Video yellow cable) has a lot of stutter which is ugly, is that a LCD wide thing?
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No, not all do.. Mostly just the 120Hz models.
Question is why are you using a RCA's? Can't you use Component or even S-Video?
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RCAs or S Video with an HD TV is kinda like Why bother.
Either component or HDMI.
And Jonesi is right the 120hz rate is the culprit. Its great for sporting events but blows for everything else...I believe there is way to change it for when you dont want it...might be as simple as one of the settings such as filmlook.
Either component or HDMI.
And Jonesi is right the 120hz rate is the culprit. Its great for sporting events but blows for everything else...I believe there is way to change it for when you dont want it...might be as simple as one of the settings such as filmlook.
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Personally I like it and have adjusted to it nicely. At first it made me a bit sick and bugged my eyes out. More or less like playing a FPS for the first time or first time in awhile.. For the most part in a nutshell it predictively adds frames to enhance the image of a TV to almost a 3D effect..
Stolen from AVS as I don't feel like typing that much out..
Certain models have a "motion enhancement" feature that increases the apparent framerate of whatever you're watching. Roughly it takes a set of original frames, tries to figure out what's moving and in what directions, then generates artificial frames with everything moved part-way and sticks them between the original frames.
Movies, and many TV shows, are shot at 24 frames per second. This results in motion blur and slightly choppy motion (especially on normal 60Hz TVs).
Soap operas are usually shot with video cameras at 30fps or 60fps, giving very smooth motion with very little blur. This gives them a rather distinctive look, and if you flip channels during the day you can usually tell when you hit a soap from the appearance alone.
So the motion enhancer increases the framerate of movies, and they end up looking kind of like soap operas. The best way to understand it is to go to an electronics store and see it in person. Look for Samsung models ending in "71F", and I think Sony XBR4. They'll also be listed as "120Hz" TVs, though the motion enhancement is actually a separate feature on top of the 120Hz capability. With the motion enhancement enabled and an HD movie the effect should be pretty easy to see.
Movies, and many TV shows, are shot at 24 frames per second. This results in motion blur and slightly choppy motion (especially on normal 60Hz TVs).
Soap operas are usually shot with video cameras at 30fps or 60fps, giving very smooth motion with very little blur. This gives them a rather distinctive look, and if you flip channels during the day you can usually tell when you hit a soap from the appearance alone.
So the motion enhancer increases the framerate of movies, and they end up looking kind of like soap operas. The best way to understand it is to go to an electronics store and see it in person. Look for Samsung models ending in "71F", and I think Sony XBR4. They'll also be listed as "120Hz" TVs, though the motion enhancement is actually a separate feature on top of the 120Hz capability. With the motion enhancement enabled and an HD movie the effect should be pretty easy to see.
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It's hard to explain.. I guess the best way to explain it would be like FPS games. Some people get sick and some people can only play it for so long. Some people it messes with their eyes..
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That and we already went the plasma is no bueno discussion.
plasma is no bueno.
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the soap opera affect can get annoying, but the key is to dial it down, you can control the setting that affects it.
As my girlfriend says "it's like raw footage, like before they edit it...."
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is it a good feature or bad......
if bad, whats a better tv sarlacc? that doesnt have that and has the same quality or better
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I would only use it when watching sporting events personally. Maybe video games, too.
Other than that, have it off.
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Plasma > LCD. LCD is still in it's infancy...
The guy at best buy was correct pointing you in that direction for the best picture...
If you want the best/most accurate color, best shadow detail, best black levels, best motion resolution get a plasma.
If you want overly bright, over saturated colors that "pop" and poor motion resolution get an LCD. The bright picture is useful if you do any viewing in the daylight.
People tend to think the poppy colors and brightness of LCD make it better, really it just makes it inaccurate. Mostly because it looks brighter and pops in the store...
Every year LCD gets a little better as they come up with new tricks, but it's not as good as a good plasma yet. Latest gimmick getting people into the LCD panels is the 120hz screens and frame interpolation to make smooth video out of 24 FPS or 30 FPS video. Granted 120hz is an excellent scan rate as it works evenly for almost all frame rates; but the smooth motion enhancement is just annoying IMO.
The Samsung LCD's your looking at are good though, they are of the best LCD panels out. But it won't deliver a Kuro Plasma picture...
The guy at best buy was correct pointing you in that direction for the best picture...
If you want the best/most accurate color, best shadow detail, best black levels, best motion resolution get a plasma.
If you want overly bright, over saturated colors that "pop" and poor motion resolution get an LCD. The bright picture is useful if you do any viewing in the daylight.
People tend to think the poppy colors and brightness of LCD make it better, really it just makes it inaccurate. Mostly because it looks brighter and pops in the store...
Every year LCD gets a little better as they come up with new tricks, but it's not as good as a good plasma yet. Latest gimmick getting people into the LCD panels is the 120hz screens and frame interpolation to make smooth video out of 24 FPS or 30 FPS video. Granted 120hz is an excellent scan rate as it works evenly for almost all frame rates; but the smooth motion enhancement is just annoying IMO.
The Samsung LCD's your looking at are good though, they are of the best LCD panels out. But it won't deliver a Kuro Plasma picture...
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Plasma > LCD. LCD is still in it's infancy...
The guy at best buy was correct pointing you in that direction for the best picture...
If you want the best/most accurate color, best shadow detail, best black levels, best motion resolution get a plasma.
If you want overly bright, over saturated colors that "pop" and poor motion resolution get an LCD. The bright picture is useful if you do any viewing in the daylight.
People tend to think the poppy colors and brightness of LCD make it better, really it just makes it inaccurate. Mostly because it looks brighter and pops in the store...
Every year LCD gets a little better as they come up with new tricks, but it's not as good as a good plasma yet. Latest gimmick getting people into the LCD panels is the 120hz screens and frame interpolation to make smooth video out of 24 FPS or 30 FPS video. Granted 120hz is an excellent scan rate as it works evenly for almost all frame rates; but the smooth motion enhancement is just annoying IMO.
The Samsung LCD's your looking at are good though, they are of the best LCD panels out. But it won't deliver a Kuro Plasma picture...
The guy at best buy was correct pointing you in that direction for the best picture...
If you want the best/most accurate color, best shadow detail, best black levels, best motion resolution get a plasma.
If you want overly bright, over saturated colors that "pop" and poor motion resolution get an LCD. The bright picture is useful if you do any viewing in the daylight.
People tend to think the poppy colors and brightness of LCD make it better, really it just makes it inaccurate. Mostly because it looks brighter and pops in the store...
Every year LCD gets a little better as they come up with new tricks, but it's not as good as a good plasma yet. Latest gimmick getting people into the LCD panels is the 120hz screens and frame interpolation to make smooth video out of 24 FPS or 30 FPS video. Granted 120hz is an excellent scan rate as it works evenly for almost all frame rates; but the smooth motion enhancement is just annoying IMO.
The Samsung LCD's your looking at are good though, they are of the best LCD panels out. But it won't deliver a Kuro Plasma picture...
Siggy we have been down this road before.
and I've said it before. The Samsung 950 delivers a Kuro picture. Side by side.
Plasma is done. And the only plasmas that were ever good were the high end models that were outrageously priced. Otherwise great black levels meant jack when a tv can barely handle gradation and noise. Which most plasmas were crap at doing.