my 50 died, need recommendations
11-18-2008, 05:48 PM
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my 50 died, need recommendations
So my Samsung 50" DLP Television bit the dust about a month ago (Had it for 3.5 years), i've been in the long process through best buy extended warrenty repair since then. They repaired the light engine (which was repaired already a year after i bought it) and then went ahead to order the entire remaining internal parts which are backordered until who knows when. I called and bitched enough so now i'm in the replacement review blah blah which means if all goes well i'll have $1599 in credit at best buy.
so, what tv should i buy??
one guy at best buy who seemed somewhat knowledgable was trying to talk me into plasma tvs
i only want the best (or best for a reasonably economically priced tv)... I can put like 400 more down (on credit
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cliffs:
-TV Died, long bs warrenty process, should have $1599 credit to Best Buy
-Can throw down 400 more for a total budget of $1999
-Want good shit, but dont want to stay close to 50"
-What TV to get??
so, what tv should i buy??
one guy at best buy who seemed somewhat knowledgable was trying to talk me into plasma tvs
i only want the best (or best for a reasonably economically priced tv)... I can put like 400 more down (on credit
)cliffs:
-TV Died, long bs warrenty process, should have $1599 credit to Best Buy
-Can throw down 400 more for a total budget of $1999
-Want good shit, but dont want to stay close to 50"
-What TV to get??
11-18-2008, 07:28 PM
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With discounts today you could get a DAMN good tv for that price. I know my parents 42 inch plasma samsung was $1299 a year ago and I see comparable ones now for $800. I am thinking you can get at least a 60 incher.
But I am no pro
Waits for the TV buffs.
But I am no pro
Waits for the TV buffs.
11-18-2008, 07:48 PM
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Samsung LN46A750, with that kind of budget you can probably move up to the LN52A750. Amazing TV and fantastic reviews. There is a thread on it in home theater section of home&garden.
11-18-2008, 07:49 PM
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11-18-2008, 08:03 PM
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Either way I recommend the Sammy 1080p 120hz sets out now. Either the 6 or 7 series..
In your price range this would be perfect http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do
11-18-2008, 08:09 PM
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stay away from plasma. Im sick of those brain washed monkeys.
11-18-2008, 08:27 PM
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Why two threads?
The 46"Sammy LCD 1080p 120Hz 6 or 7 series would be perfect for you http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...mid=5336075433 Just have Best Buy match Circuit City price.
11-18-2008, 11:26 PM
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Samsung HL61A750 61" 1080p 1599.99
11-18-2008, 11:47 PM
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LED LCD are the best at the moment, I think Sammy only has one or two. My friend bought the last MY top of the line Sammy from Magnolia on Wilshire a few months ago. Got a steal of a deal as it was the last one at the store. 46" LED all the trimming.
The new 900 series model is top dog, but you wont find it at BB.
My friend got the A750 in a 52"...its no slouch either. I love that set, too. It makes my 40" seems so tiny
11-19-2008, 12:25 AM
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LCD
Don't bother with Plasma.
Don't bother with Plasma.
11-19-2008, 12:40 AM
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Samsung HL61A750 61" 1080p 1599.99
but the 61" sounds tasty
11-19-2008, 12:51 AM
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I'm not even going to get into the debate people thinking they looked better, because i never liked how plasmas looked. The only plasma worth buying is the Pioneer Kuros...which they are discontinuing. And when you compare it to the current top 900 series of Samsungs LED LCDs..The pic is almost identical and the Sammy is less expensive.
As for Either of those sets being LED...I dont think they are, but dont let that stop you. Either way go double check on the sammy site.
11-19-2008, 10:36 AM
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Pretty every maker has dumped plasma. It draws more energy and has a more finite life span.
I'm not even going to get into the debate people thinking they looked better, because i never liked how plasmas looked. The only plasma worth buying is the Pioneer Kuros...which they are discontinuing. And when you compare it to the current top 900 series of Samsungs LED LCDs..The pic is almost identical and the Sammy is less expensive.
As for Either of those sets being LED...I dont think they are, but dont let that stop you. Either way go double check on the sammy site.
I'm not even going to get into the debate people thinking they looked better, because i never liked how plasmas looked. The only plasma worth buying is the Pioneer Kuros...which they are discontinuing. And when you compare it to the current top 900 series of Samsungs LED LCDs..The pic is almost identical and the Sammy is less expensive.
As for Either of those sets being LED...I dont think they are, but dont let that stop you. Either way go double check on the sammy site.
While I won't argue with your opinion on picture quality LED LCD vs. Plasma (I completely disagree but your opinion is your opinion). I will however argue with you on the energy consumption point and the future of Plasma technology.
In the upcoming 12-18 months manufacturers will begin to produce a new type of plasma tv that uses a technology called NeoPDP. Manufacturers, particularly Panasonic, have begun to display this technology at the 2008 CES shows. The NeoPDP technology allows the manufacturer to make a plasma tv that uses 50% less energy while achieving the same brightness levels as current models and these new plasmas will be 50% thinner as well as substantially lighter. This is the direction plasma technology is going, and I think it will become the standard in the HDTV market once the technology becomes more common. See video below.
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I also believe that when it comes to large flat panel tv's (50in +) LED LCD's still have some catching up to do. While I completely agree with you that Pioneer Kuro and Kuro Elite plasmas are the benchmark to beat when it comes to flat panel display picture quality (as long as you exclude Runco from this argument), you pay for what you get.
I just puchased, two weeks ago, a Panasonic TH-58PZ800U plasma tv. I looked at and extensively researched: Samsung 55 inch 950 LCD/Pioneer Kuro 6020 (the Elite's were just too much for me to spend)/Panasonic 800 series side by side by side.
While in the end Pioneer's black levels were superior to both the Samsung and Panasonic, I found the picture of the Panasonic to be more pleasing, especially the color balance and, in my opinion, brighter white levels and while the Samsung looked good, it did not have nearly the deep rich colors/detail or black levels that I saw in the other two tv's. Nor did any of the LCD Tv's I looked at.
It is also important to remember that the Samsung display is 3 inches smaller and 45% more expensive, the Pioneer display is 2 inches bigger and 35% more expensive. The picture quality of the Pioneer is certainly not 35% better, but if you are a diehard audiofile or a very high end consumer, I could certainly see why the Pioneer would be the tv of choice. I am neither a very high end consumer or big home theater junkie, and just couldn't justify the vast price difference between the two, or pay more money for a smaller LCD.
I guess my point is in the end it's all a matter of personal preference (as I'm sure you know) but I would not be so bearish on Plasma Technology, especially upcoming models, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Sorry for the long post...
11-19-2008, 11:39 AM
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Since the OP asked the the initial question doesnt that count as being on topic?
And while I cant comment on new technology with the exception that most manufacturers have abandoned plasma. I still disagree. I found the 950 to be every bit as good as the Kuro. I watched two 52" models side by side playing off the same HD source.
And while I cant comment on new technology with the exception that most manufacturers have abandoned plasma. I still disagree. I found the 950 to be every bit as good as the Kuro. I watched two 52" models side by side playing off the same HD source.
11-19-2008, 11:47 AM
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Sorry just throwing in my
Back on topic... I completely forgot to give my recommendation. Based on my research I would get the 50 inch version of the Panasonic plasma I just bought, the TH-50PZ800U model, you should be able to negotiate the price down to under $2000. Unless you have a very, very bright room with sunlight shining directly at the area where your tv would be, I would not recommend an LCD. If the TH-50PZ800U model is out of your price range after tax or you would like some extra cash for a wall mount bracket, I recommend the TH-50PZ85U, this tv has received some very good reviews, it just lacks the THX picture mode the 800U model has and the black levels aren't quite up to the 800U level, but nevertheless a great tv for the money.
Again it's all personal preference take a look for yourself. Be sure to watch programming you are going to watch most on your tv, if your watch a ton of sports, make sure the tv is tuned to a football game, basketball, etc. If you are going to be watching a ton of Blu Ray, bring in a favorite movie to test out on all tv's you are considering. You'll quickly figure out which tv suits you best then just make sure you get the lowest price possible.
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11-19-2008, 12:05 PM
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Since the OP asked the the initial question doesnt that count as being on topic?
And while I cant comment on new technology with the exception that most manufacturers have abandoned plasma. I still disagree. I found the 950 to be every bit as good as the Kuro. I watched two 52" models side by side playing off the same HD source.
And while I cant comment on new technology with the exception that most manufacturers have abandoned plasma. I still disagree. I found the 950 to be every bit as good as the Kuro. I watched two 52" models side by side playing off the same HD source.
Sorry, back on topic...
11-19-2008, 12:23 PM
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youre right I compared a 52 to a 58.
11-19-2008, 12:29 PM
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Trouble is, like Sarlacc said...the Plasma has a finite life-span compared to LCD.
11-19-2008, 12:43 PM
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If you watched tv 24 hours per day 7 days a week, a typical plasma would last you 6.84 years (60,000/24/365=6.84). If you are like most Americans and watch tv say 6-8 hours per day, that lifespan would increase to 20.55 years. How many of the people here do not plan on getting a new tv for 20 years??? Even when the plasma reaches 60,000 hours it's not like the tv is worthless, but the plasma cells do become dimmer, but the tv will still be watchable.
If your point is LCD's never deteriorate fine, but you have to put that point in a context of normal everyday tv usage.
11-19-2008, 12:48 PM
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...but the plasma doesn't suddenly go dim at 60,000 hours.....it becomes gradually dimmer before the 60,000 hours.
11-19-2008, 01:09 PM
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But fine, for arguments sake let's say plasma's start to show dimming at the 30,000 hour mark. So even if this is true, if you watch tv 6 hours per day 7 days a week the plasma would still last 13.69 years before showing any signs of dimming. It is my opinion that I would rather have a bigger, cheaper tv with a better picture (again my opinion) for 13.69 years than have to spend more money now for a smaller display.
The only two reasons I believe LCD's are superior in any situation is if you have a very. very brightly lit room (direct sunlight) LCD screens will be better, they will reflect less light, but even now with the shiny bezels of newer LCD's there is still some glare. Or, if you are going to be running static images constantly (ie. use for computer monitor, or constant video game playing). In my opinion only in those conditions is a LCD better suited than a plasma because although technology has vastly reduced the risks of image retention or burn-in on a plasma display, it is still possible through abuse or usage as described above.
11-19-2008, 02:29 PM
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Come on, I believe that point is highly deceptive. Most Plasma's today have a rated lifespan of 60,000 hours...
If you watched tv 24 hours per day 7 days a week, a typical plasma would last you 6.84 years (60,000/24/365=6.84). If you are like most Americans and watch tv say 6-8 hours per day, that lifespan would increase to 20.55 years. How many of the people here do not plan on getting a new tv for 20 years??? Even when the plasma reaches 60,000 hours it's not like the tv is worthless, but the plasma cells do become dimmer, but the tv will still be watchable.
If your point is LCD's never deteriorate fine, but you have to put that point in a context of normal everyday tv usage.
If you watched tv 24 hours per day 7 days a week, a typical plasma would last you 6.84 years (60,000/24/365=6.84). If you are like most Americans and watch tv say 6-8 hours per day, that lifespan would increase to 20.55 years. How many of the people here do not plan on getting a new tv for 20 years??? Even when the plasma reaches 60,000 hours it's not like the tv is worthless, but the plasma cells do become dimmer, but the tv will still be watchable.
If your point is LCD's never deteriorate fine, but you have to put that point in a context of normal everyday tv usage.
11-19-2008, 02:35 PM
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Typically the same 60,000 hours I stated for plasmas, but some are rated to 80,000 hours. The problem is the LCD light source will begin to dim before the actual LCD screen wears at all.
Really you shouldn't worry about the lifespans of the current generation displays they will last for many, many years, no matter if it is a plasma or LCD.
Really you shouldn't worry about the lifespans of the current generation displays they will last for many, many years, no matter if it is a plasma or LCD.
11-19-2008, 02:36 PM
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Buy it with your Amex
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11-19-2008, 02:41 PM
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well considering im getting a brand new tv because of my original warrenty on my DLP, maybe its a good idea for the LCD, or are yuou guys confident they wont break
