Jumped on the 4k bandwagon
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Jumped on the 4k bandwagon
Well, my old Sony SXRD 50' RPTV died today. I knew my next was always going to be 4k so I decided get one of the Vizio 55" P series 4ks from BB. I went with BB because they delivered sooner than anyone else and will haul off and recycle my old TV for free.
I got Fios 50/50 and will probably upgrade to the 4k Netflix package
I got Fios 50/50 and will probably upgrade to the 4k Netflix package
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What bandwidth is required for 4k Netflix? Can Wireless N handle it?
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Theoretically it should be fine. I'm just going to use ethernet anyways, 4k over wireless would hog up all the wifi bandwidth.
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4k over wifi.
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Google Fiber is coming down my road next year... 4K might happen.
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Lucky!
I want a 4K TV but won't until 75 inchers are around the $2000 mark.
I see the P series 70 is $2500 so we are getting close.
Plus I generally don't like jumping on "gen 1" tech. But these seem pretty solid.
I want a 4K TV but won't until 75 inchers are around the $2000 mark.
I see the P series 70 is $2500 so we are getting close.
Plus I generally don't like jumping on "gen 1" tech. But these seem pretty solid.
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Ehh. "Mainstream"
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I wouldn't have jumped on it if they didn't have h.265 support since that's the new standard, and the tv has 802.11ac which should be able to handle 4k but still don't want to use wifi
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Netflix say I'm already signed up for the 4 screens + Ultra HD (4k) streaming plan at the granfathered rate of $7.99/mo
I'll take it!
I'll take it!
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Well, my old Sony SXRD 50' RPTV died today. I knew my next was always going to be 4k so I decided get one of the Vizio 55" P series 4ks from BB. I went with BB because they delivered sooner than anyone else and will haul off and recycle my old TV for free.
I got Fios 50/50 and will probably upgrade to the 4k Netflix package
I got Fios 50/50 and will probably upgrade to the 4k Netflix package
I love my KDS-R50XBR1!!!
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I'm considering buying a new TV for the new house and want to go 4K for the future, but a friend of mine who works in A/V said to hold off on 4K for at least another year as there is no set standard yet (??). Obviously this thread contradicts what I'm about to ask...but is there any reason to hold off?
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Price is the the main reason why I'm holding off. That and the fact there isn't enough media out there to justify it for me.
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I'm considering buying a new TV for the new house and want to go 4K for the future, but a friend of mine who works in A/V said to hold off on 4K for at least another year as there is no set standard yet (??). Obviously this thread contradicts what I'm about to ask...but is there any reason to hold off?
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I'm considering buying a new TV for the new house and want to go 4K for the future, but a friend of mine who works in A/V said to hold off on 4K for at least another year as there is no set standard yet (??). Obviously this thread contradicts what I'm about to ask...but is there any reason to hold off?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding
This is how I feel when I walk into best buy
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It had good PQ but it's black level was pretty lame being an RPTV and all, still better PQ than a DLP RPTV.
I'm interested to see how well the local dimming works on the 4k TV
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Sounds like just a bad lamp which you can replace yourself for ~$50.... I wouldn't trash the TV just yet....
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I've replaced the lamp a couple times it's never done this. It has a lamp light that flashes when it needs to be replaced, it wasn't flashing.
I'm not putting anymore money into an 8 year old TV
I'm not putting anymore money into an 8 year old TV
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Update time: Been had this TV since the 20th, shit is so cash money!
However I noticed right away that one of my HDMI ports was no bueno. the image would cut in and out but when the device was plugged into any other port it was fine.
So I'm going to take exchange it for another one.
Plot thickens. I was one the BB site today just checking up on how to do all this and I noticed that my TV was now on sale for four hundred fucking dollars less! $400! What. The. Fuck.
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I called those assholes up and they're going to credit me back $400!!!! Oooooooooh
That's what's up!
So yeah if you want one the 55in Vizio 4k is going for $999 right now!
VIZIO PSeries 55" Class 5458" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P552UI-B2 - Best Buy
60in for $1500
VIZIO PSeries 60" Class 60" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P602UI-B3 - Best Buy
However I noticed right away that one of my HDMI ports was no bueno. the image would cut in and out but when the device was plugged into any other port it was fine.
So I'm going to take exchange it for another one.
Plot thickens. I was one the BB site today just checking up on how to do all this and I noticed that my TV was now on sale for four hundred fucking dollars less! $400! What. The. Fuck.
GcgWMVV.gif
I called those assholes up and they're going to credit me back $400!!!! Oooooooooh
That's what's up!
So yeah if you want one the 55in Vizio 4k is going for $999 right now!
VIZIO PSeries 55" Class 5458" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P552UI-B2 - Best Buy
60in for $1500
VIZIO PSeries 60" Class 60" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P602UI-B3 - Best Buy
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I believe PS4 is going 4K this summer with a new model. I plan on purchasing one by the end of the year and a TV either around BF or next year. How are these for sports, movies, games, etc? Are they going to start making 4K discs? I have netflix already via ethernet on the PS3.
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If you are getting a 4K tv without HDMI 2.0, you are limiting your content to 24 fps. This may be fine for movies but more movies will be made with 60fps and gaming can definitely take advantage of 60 fps. Some say that for true 4K, you NEED HDMI 2.0. While I don't necessarily agree with that, I would suggest holding out if possible. Of course with technology, you will NEVER catch up, sooooo...
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Aside from the shitty Hobbit trilogy, which blew cock in 48fps...and the new Avatars whenever the hell they finally start production, which might shoot in 60fps...and might change to something totally new...I dont see this being any sort of a possibility.
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4k in the home is nothing but a marketing scam at this point in time. Aside from the fact 95% of the homes out there will NEVER need 4k.
All those movies 99% of you are watching digitally projected on big screens at the movies are 2k.
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Thank you gentlemen. With the information, I'll hold off on a TV then. I know that PS4 games are getting made in 60fps but probably at 1080p resolution.
I read this article regarding content. Are these mostly 1080p content upconverted to 4K at a premium?
4K content guide: What to watch in 4K today - CNET
I read this article regarding content. Are these mostly 1080p content upconverted to 4K at a premium?
4K content guide: What to watch in 4K today - CNET
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4K isn't a gimmick. It's just not utilized in the overwhelming majority of our viewable media...yet. But that will come in time. Unlike 3D, 4k will become common.
Games, menus, and everything else can take advantage now though.
Games, menus, and everything else can take advantage now though.
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Will the content eventually be there for consumer consumption...one day.
Wanna hear a secret? The most popular motion picture camera on the market right now, the Arri Alexa...isnt 4k....its a 3.5K sensor that shoots 2k...and 90% of TV shows using it shoot 1080. Though there is a firmware update to now shoot "4k"UHD...
Its not about resolution...no one NEEDS 4k in their homes, hell no one really NEEDS it in the theater. Its distributors and TV makers coming up with new ways to get consumers to spend their money.
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Thank you gentlemen. With the information, I'll hold off on a TV then. I know that PS4 games are getting made in 60fps but probably at 1080p resolution.
I read this article regarding content. Are these mostly 1080p content upconverted to 4K at a premium?
4K content guide: What to watch in 4K today - CNET
I read this article regarding content. Are these mostly 1080p content upconverted to 4K at a premium?
4K content guide: What to watch in 4K today - CNET
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You want all tv and movie content playing at 24p. Sports whatever, yes people like the higher refresh rates better. Video Games...no idea, when I do play which is extremely rare these days its always with all that refresh crap turned off.
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At this exact moment in time 4k is a gimmick to generate more sales.
Will the content eventually be there for consumer consumption...one day.
Wanna hear a secret? The most popular motion picture camera on the market right now, the Arri Alexa...isnt 4k....its a 3.5K sensor that shoots 2k...and 90% of TV shows using it shoot 1080. Though there is a firmware update to now shoot "4k"UHD...
Its not about resolution...no one NEEDS 4k in their homes, hell no one really NEEDS it in the theater. Its distributors and TV makers coming up with new ways to get consumers to spend their money.
Will the content eventually be there for consumer consumption...one day.
Wanna hear a secret? The most popular motion picture camera on the market right now, the Arri Alexa...isnt 4k....its a 3.5K sensor that shoots 2k...and 90% of TV shows using it shoot 1080. Though there is a firmware update to now shoot "4k"UHD...
Its not about resolution...no one NEEDS 4k in their homes, hell no one really NEEDS it in the theater. Its distributors and TV makers coming up with new ways to get consumers to spend their money.
- It's not a secret.
- And it's not ENTIRELY about resolution.
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Perhaps you knew, perhaps you didn't. But I'll bet if you did we were the only two people here who did.
Its not about resolution...you know who forced the whole 4k, 5k, and now 6k hype....RED...was it going to come eventually, yes....but they used their marketing prowess and pushed hard down everyones throats.
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General facts about displays.
The higher the resolution, the better.
The higher the refresh rate, the better.
The higher the brightness, the better. (This leads to many things being "better")
I can go home right now and take advantage of 4K. That's not a trick, it's truth.
To me you are basically saying all early technology adopters have bought into some trick. I disagree. Is the early tech worth your while? That's up for debate.
I didn't know the name of the camera, just the methods. And I imagine in this sea of random backgrounds, we aren't the only ones "in the know".
looked recently, but, will you even be able to buy a Dolby Vision TV non 4K?
I'll take a 90" 4K DV OLED set for $2000 Alex.
That too is something worth mentioning. 4K becomes more and more relevant in the home because TVs, even in relation to the viewing distance, are becoming larger and larger. Resolution does matter.
The higher the resolution, the better.
The higher the refresh rate, the better.
The higher the brightness, the better. (This leads to many things being "better")
I can go home right now and take advantage of 4K. That's not a trick, it's truth.
To me you are basically saying all early technology adopters have bought into some trick. I disagree. Is the early tech worth your while? That's up for debate.
I didn't know the name of the camera, just the methods. And I imagine in this sea of random backgrounds, we aren't the only ones "in the know".
looked recently, but, will you even be able to buy a Dolby Vision TV non 4K?
I'll take a 90" 4K DV OLED set for $2000 Alex.
That too is something worth mentioning. 4K becomes more and more relevant in the home because TVs, even in relation to the viewing distance, are becoming larger and larger. Resolution does matter.
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General facts about displays.
The higher the resolution, the better.
The higher the refresh rate, the better.
The higher the brightness, the better. (This leads to many things being "better")
I can go home right now and take advantage of 4K. That's not a trick, it's truth.
To me you are basically saying all early technology adopters have bought into some trick. I disagree. Is the early tech worth your while? That's up for debate.
I didn't know the name of the camera, just the methods. And I imagine in this sea of random backgrounds, we aren't the only ones "in the know".
looked recently, but, will you even be able to buy a Dolby Vision TV non 4K?
I'll take a 90" 4K DV OLED set for $2000 Alex.
That too is something worth mentioning. 4K becomes more and more relevant in the home because TVs, even in relation to the viewing distance, are becoming larger and larger. Resolution does matter.
The higher the resolution, the better.
The higher the refresh rate, the better.
The higher the brightness, the better. (This leads to many things being "better")
I can go home right now and take advantage of 4K. That's not a trick, it's truth.
To me you are basically saying all early technology adopters have bought into some trick. I disagree. Is the early tech worth your while? That's up for debate.
I didn't know the name of the camera, just the methods. And I imagine in this sea of random backgrounds, we aren't the only ones "in the know".
looked recently, but, will you even be able to buy a Dolby Vision TV non 4K?
I'll take a 90" 4K DV OLED set for $2000 Alex.
That too is something worth mentioning. 4K becomes more and more relevant in the home because TVs, even in relation to the viewing distance, are becoming larger and larger. Resolution does matter.
If you see dolby vision in person, the increased contrast alone gives the perception of increased resolution.
All 4k is going to do is the same thing HD did upon its arrival...get people complaining that the image is too clear, that can see all the flaws in peoples skin and all the special fx make up's seems and cheats.
The one thing that I agree with is the size to distance ratio and all the people buying larger TVs because they are uneducated in viewing distance vs screen size and feel that they need huge sets...
BUT...you could achieve the same result with 2K...less bandwidth, less compression, No consumer would even know the difference and you'd be able to jam larger TVs in the home at closer distances.
So...tell me again how 4k isn't a gimmick at this moment in time?
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Better brightness, colors, and contrast are great. But resolution they are not.
I'm very surprised that hear someone of your profession talking about 2K in terms of resolution. 2K is barely even an incremental update to 1080 and in reality is just an aspect ratio standard set by the DCI. A ~3.5% increase in pixels isn't going to change anything. Especially considering it's just an increase in one direction.
Some are uneducated, some are not. You're line of thought is set with the idea of a certain resolution. The math can change though. I want a bigger TV at the same distance. How can I maintain a level of clarity in that equation while getting a 20% bigger TV? Upping the resolution obviously.
I'm all for Dolby Vision. A cleaner more standard image from the camera to the screen is great. But again that doesn't replace resolution.
I'm very surprised that hear someone of your profession talking about 2K in terms of resolution. 2K is barely even an incremental update to 1080 and in reality is just an aspect ratio standard set by the DCI. A ~3.5% increase in pixels isn't going to change anything. Especially considering it's just an increase in one direction.
Some are uneducated, some are not. You're line of thought is set with the idea of a certain resolution. The math can change though. I want a bigger TV at the same distance. How can I maintain a level of clarity in that equation while getting a 20% bigger TV? Upping the resolution obviously.
I'm all for Dolby Vision. A cleaner more standard image from the camera to the screen is great. But again that doesn't replace resolution.