Renovation - The difference a day makes...
#42
Originally Posted by wstevens
I'm thinking about reovating my kitchen as well. The cabinets aren't bad, but I'd like new ones. The countertop is an ugly green color - I'd like granite or Silstone.
The problem for me is that the kitchen is relatively large (for a townhouse), with big cabinets. I roughly priced out the whole thing and it would run me about $15K.
This is definitely NOT my last house, so I've been debating on whether to do it.
The problem for me is that the kitchen is relatively large (for a townhouse), with big cabinets. I roughly priced out the whole thing and it would run me about $15K.
This is definitely NOT my last house, so I've been debating on whether to do it.
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Originally Posted by dom
I live in 2000 sq-ft house in a fairly new sub divison. I've always heard that you don't make back the money you've spend renovating these types of houses once you sell Not sure if thats fact but it makes some sense. The people buying the house proby won't appreciate the extra's that you've added since their main concern is the bottom line. Their simply not willing to pay extra and would likely buy the house next door thats selling for 20K less.
My folks definately arent living in the last house they are ever going to own. But they did sink about 40g into completely redoing their kitchen. The house isnt very old, but its a complete and total upgrade from what was originally there. I'm pretty sure they will make a return on their investment.
House is looking good Adam. I've just started looking at condos with my girl....course this being LA the prices are making my head spin. But I'm sick of renting.
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say your house is worth 300k...how much should you spend on your kitchen? at what point will you not be getting money back when you sell? I'm thinking if I dumped 85k into my kitchen I would get about 50k of it back when I sell in 4 years (with inflation). I've seen some houses in my development sell with some really nice kitchens but they didn't command much of a premium over the other houses that hadn't renovated the kitchen. On average they get about 15-20k back it seems, although i don't know what they spent on the renovation.
is there a certain percentage of the home's value that you're supposed stay within when redoing a ktichen? i want to fix up the house but since i wont be there in 4 years i don't want to over do it ya know?
is there a certain percentage of the home's value that you're supposed stay within when redoing a ktichen? i want to fix up the house but since i wont be there in 4 years i don't want to over do it ya know?
Last edited by zeroday; 08-16-2005 at 01:54 PM.
#46
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zero, i think it depends on the area you are in and house. having an 85k kitchen in a $300k house might not make alot of sense. But typically the kitchen is the best place to spend your renovation dollars.
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Originally Posted by fdl
zero, i think it depends on the area you are in and house. having an 85k kitchen in a $300k house might not make alot of sense. But typically the kitchen is the best place to spend your renovation dollars.
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Originally Posted by zeroday
say your house is worth 300k...how much should you spend on your kitchen? at what point will you not be getting money back when you sell? I'm thinking if I dumped 85k into my kitchen I would get about 50k of it back when I sell in 4 years (with inflation). I've seen some houses in my development sell with some really nice kitchens but they didn't command much of a premium over the other houses that hadn't renovated the kitchen. On average they get about 15-20k back it seems, although i don't know what they spent on the renovation.
is there a certain percentage of the home's value that you're supposed stay within when redoing a ktichen? i want to fix up the house but since i wont be there in 4 years i don't want to over do it ya know?
is there a certain percentage of the home's value that you're supposed stay within when redoing a ktichen? i want to fix up the house but since i wont be there in 4 years i don't want to over do it ya know?
You can go nuts and get really crazy with costs, but you gotta be careful. With what my parents paid for their house almost 6 years ago and what they could hoepfully get for it today, the kitchen has paid for itself. BUT my dad did because he wanted it. the fact that it will make its money back is just a bonus.
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i think sarlaccs post is dead on.
you gotta decide if doing to make money back or doing for yourself first.
my house was bout 200k, i'm building a 20-25k kitchen. i will probably make my money back because there are house in the neighborhood of comparable size that sell for as much as 500k... but i'm not doing it to make my money back... i'm doing it because i want it.
you also gotta know how to get costs down while keeping quality high... if i was paying retail for everything i'd have to cut corners somewhere or damn near guarantee that i would not be making my money back on it.
you gotta decide if doing to make money back or doing for yourself first.
my house was bout 200k, i'm building a 20-25k kitchen. i will probably make my money back because there are house in the neighborhood of comparable size that sell for as much as 500k... but i'm not doing it to make my money back... i'm doing it because i want it.
you also gotta know how to get costs down while keeping quality high... if i was paying retail for everything i'd have to cut corners somewhere or damn near guarantee that i would not be making my money back on it.
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I saw 2 nearly identical houses in my area.
One had a new kitchen, marble, subzero, etc.
It only fetched about 15k more than the one that didn't have that.
Also the house with upgraded kitchen also had a fireplace and nicer landscaping.
Now, I do think that having those upgrades may help sell a home faster.
Oh, I should also state that the people that owned the upgraded house were originally asking 50k more than the other one.
The biggest thing that is going to govern what you can get for your house is what the other houses in the neighborhood are selling for.
One had a new kitchen, marble, subzero, etc.
It only fetched about 15k more than the one that didn't have that.
Also the house with upgraded kitchen also had a fireplace and nicer landscaping.
Now, I do think that having those upgrades may help sell a home faster.
Oh, I should also state that the people that owned the upgraded house were originally asking 50k more than the other one.
The biggest thing that is going to govern what you can get for your house is what the other houses in the neighborhood are selling for.
Last edited by doopstr; 08-17-2005 at 12:30 PM.
#52
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Originally Posted by doopstr
I saw 2 nearly identical houses in my area.
One had a new kitchen, marble, subzero, etc.
It only fetched about 15k more than the one that didn't have that.
Also the house with upgraded kitchen also had a fireplace and nicer landscaping.
One had a new kitchen, marble, subzero, etc.
It only fetched about 15k more than the one that didn't have that.
Also the house with upgraded kitchen also had a fireplace and nicer landscaping.
like I and others have said, it really depends on the area and the overall value of the houses. A $25K kitchen in a house in the ghetto will fetch you $0 more. A 25K kitchen in an area of 500k homes will usually get you your 25k (or more) back.
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Also, in "development" type areas, you are even more so limited to what your neighbors can sell their houses for.
This is why I like older neighborhoods where all the houses are unique. Judging what each is worth is completely up to personal preference.
This is why I like older neighborhoods where all the houses are unique. Judging what each is worth is completely up to personal preference.
#54
Originally Posted by soopa
Also, in "development" type areas, you are even more so limited to what your neighbors can sell their houses for.
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